Sabbath

[john832]

What this makes clear is that these gentlemen did not know what they were talking about. It is totally impossible to work back and determine when creation took place. Indeed when creation took place there were no 'days'. The length of a day was not fixed until the fourth 'day'. So they were whistling in the wind. The Sabbath was determined on the basis of when God first gave the manna.

Well, I am sure the US Naval Observatory consults you regularly before they release anything to the media.

 

[valiant]

No it was God...

Exo 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days ye shall gather it; but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
Exo 16:27 And it came to pass, that there went out some of the people on the seventh day for to gather, and they found none.
Exo 16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long refuse ye to keep my commandments and my laws?
Exo 16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath, therefore he giveth you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide ye every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.
Exo 16:30 So the people rested on the seventh day.

Notice in verse 28 that it is God speaking? This was not Moses doing, this was straight from God's mouth.

may I suggest that you take your blinkers off AND READ WHAT I SAID again!!!!!!

 

[john832]

may I suggest that you take your blinkers off AND READ WHAT I SAID again!!!!!!

Read what you said, then posted the truth.

 

[valiant]

Well, I am sure the US Naval Observatory consults you regularly before they release anything to the media.

If you really think that that is the view of the US Naval Observatory you need your head examining It is the view of a few biased individuals.

I suggest you write to the USNO and ask them to confirm that they know when the first day of creation was LOL

 

[valiant]

Read what you said, then posted the truth.

. It was Moses who took that fact and applied it to the Sabbath which was ordered by YHWH in Exodus 26

Is that difficult to understand, or shall I put it in four letter words?

 

[john832]

If you really think that that is the view of the US Naval Observatory you need your head examining It is the view of a few biased individuals.

I suggest you write to the USNO and ask them to confirm that they know when the first day of creation was LOL

That was a direct quote from a letter from the U.S. Observatory. Sorry it didn't fit your preconceived idea.

 

[john832]

. It was Moses who took that fact and applied it to the Sabbath which was ordered by YHWH in Exodus 26

Is that difficult to understand, or shall I put it in four letter words?

No, it was ordered by the One who became Jesus Christ in Ex 16 prior to Mt. Sinai. Moses simply repeated what Christ said.

 

[john832]

Frankly, you are free to believe whatever you like.

 

[Pumicestone]

Even assuming that a seven-day week has always been the go,
how do you know that the first day was not a Monday or a Thursday or Wednesday .... whatever ?

And any logic demands that if you cannot, with evidence, establish which was the 'first' day, you obviously cannot be dogmatic about which was/is the seventh day !!!
Christian or Jewish tradition is not evidence.

 

[JimmieD]

That was a direct quote from a letter from the U.S. Observatory. Sorry it didn't fit your preconceived idea.

How do you know it was a letter?

 

[Biblelogic01]

Even assuming that a seven-day week has always been the go,
how do you know that the first day was not a Monday or a Thursday or Wednesday .... whatever ?

And any logic demands that if you cannot, with evidence, establish which was the 'first' day, you obviously cannot be dogmatic about which was/is the seventh day !!!
Christian or Jewish tradition is not evidence.

Look at history. What did Constatine do during his rule? He changed days around, it specifically states he moved sabbath from the 7th day of the week (saturday) to the first day of the week (sunday). He wanted to bring pagan culture into Christianity so he could get more people to come into the faith/religion he was creating. So as far as what the first day of the week and 7th day of the week according to the gregorian calendar, 7th day of the week is saturday.

 

[prove-all]

I do have a serious question (if I may change up the tenor of this thread for a moment)

Among the legally Sabbath keeping beliefs, are there no people who work on Saturdays? I mean thousands of jobs often require their people to work on Saturday. This would seem to be a direct and deliberate violation of the practice they seem to hold as one of the primary foundations upon which their beliefs rest.

if they are working for money on the sabbath day,in violation of the practice,

they are not legally Sabbath keepers in the first place.

you can ask days off, pray for better job. but doing good is allowed.

also God will provide daily needs, and we have an advocate if slipup and repent.

 

[prove-all]

Six apples shalt thou eat but the seventh you will keep whole.
Six days shalt thou work but the seventh thou shalt rest.

Doesn't matter a rat's which particular apple .... or DAY !
Simply keep one apple or day in seven ...ANY one will do.

Nobody has the slightest clue when the "original" week began. I don't remember any text nominating Monday, Tuesday Wednesday etc
People are relying on Jewish tradition.

My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways.
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.

Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,
Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.

And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee:
for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish,
and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


I'm sure someone knows when the first day that the word made was.
God labeled the days 1st day,2,3........7th day,but man named them after there gods,

but the day of the week has never changed, even after romes calander messed it up.
romans did not want to follow Gods oracles eather, and dumped Gods tradations.

 

[MarcR]

Six apples shalt thou eat but the seventh you will keep whole.
Six days shalt thou work but the seventh thou shalt rest.

Doesn't matter a rat's which particular apple .... or DAY !
Simply keep one apple or day in seven ...ANY one will do.

Nobody has the slightest clue when the "original" week began. I don't remember any text nominating Monday, Tuesday Wednesday etc
People are relying on Jewish tradition.

Ex 12:1-3
12 And the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
KJV


Here God took a calendar that was already in use and gave the new moon as a reference point for reckoning time.

It is NOT necessary to know the day of creation to know how to recognize the Sabbath!

 

[ChristInUs]

By keeping Sabbath you trash the cross and say it's no good I must keep Sabbath to be righteous. Right or wrong? think about it.

 

[Skgrim]

First u should read a little here and a little there in the Bible to get your answers to any question you have of the Bible.
Matthew 5:17
"Do Not Think that I came to "Destroy the Law" or the Prophets. I "Did Not Come To Destroy but to fulfill .
I don't for the life of me know how people can twist the scripture.
V. 18. For assuredly, I say to you
Till Heaven and Earth Pass Away,
One Jot or one title will by NO means pass from from the Law till
ALL is fulfilled.( that will not happen until God returns)
V19). Whosoever breaks one of the least of commandments , (And Teaches men so) shall Be Called least in the Kingdom of Heaven
But whoever does keep the commandments and teaches them, he shall be great in the Kingdom of heaven.
God says to Keep His Sabbath Holy not mans Sabbath.
It was not made for the Jews or the Israelites it was made for man
There are so many scriptures in the Bible that prove that the Sabbath was never done away with by God. Common sense even tells you why would God write Ten Commandments and put them in stone just to say oh forget about the Sabbath and just keep 9 of them. God is not a Liar nor does he ever Contradict Himself.

 

[kohelet]

Any way this is fruitless Just hear this please what I am about to say you will think I am totally deluded about. But I pray that when you see it come to pass you will remember these words.

Soon a law will begin to travel around the world, At first it will be a simple family day on Sunday but it will not stop there, it will become more until eventually those who still keep the bible Sabbath will be blamed for all the evil that happens on earth. Laws will be passed to take away freedom to keep the true bible Sabbath.

I know you think this is foolishness but remember this on the day it comes to be.

Gotime, I mentioned this some time back. It has been a bit buried in the thread and you may have missed it for that reason.

Could you expand on what you said? You've said in the past how your doctrine is based squarely on Scripture. This is an almost word-for-word quote from a prophecy by Mrs White.

 

[ChristInUs]

Is keeping Sabbath what yo do or what God did?

 

[Skgrim]

God said on the. Seventh Day he rested. I would say yes God does keep the Sabbath and so do I.

 

[Skgrim]

Repent ye, and believe the gospel," (Mark1:15)
Before you can Sincerely believe and except Jesus Christ as your savior, and have His shed blood cover your sins, you must repent. But repent of what? Repent of sin! What is sin?
"Sin is the transgression of the law" ( 1 John 3:4) Sin is breaking Gods spiritual law--- The Ten Commandments. Solomon, the wisest man that ever lived wrote
Proverbs 1:7). The Fear of The Lord is the beginning if knowledge!
Fear God, and keep His Commandments ( Eccl. 12:13)
Micah 4:2) He will teach us His Ways and we shall walk in His Path