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Please refrain from being ferocious. When strayed from the Hebrew Calendar to any of the others one may begin a week any day he pleases, however the Biblical reference is always the Hebrew Lunar Calendar.
Not recognizing this seemingly insignificant (to not Hebrew calendar folks) fact many are lacking in far greater understanding of the Word and what many of the prophecies are making reference to.
Knowing everything of prophecy has its inherent merit, but all any need know is Christ crucified..unhappily we all do have our quirks as to what interests each more in the Word.
Again, who cares what people believe about other calendars. They are composed of names of false gods and worse.
Not recognizing this seemingly insignificant (to not Hebrew calendar folks) fact many are lacking in far greater understanding of the Word and what many of the prophecies are making reference to.
Knowing everything of prophecy has its inherent merit, but all any need know is Christ crucified..unhappily we all do have our quirks as to what interests each more in the Word.
Again, who cares what people believe about other calendars. They are composed of names of false gods and worse.
You are looking at this with human eyes and seeing it as a human activity. It does not mean observing a 'day'...but what it represents...'time' spent with GOD !...isn't that to be treasured ? and HE wants us to be 'refreshed in Him every 7th day as given by Him....not when WE choose.
You know what effect it has when 'doing as we are told ? it teaches OBEDIENCE !!! something christians are alien to..only depending on forgiveness and grace all the time.
Obedience is important to God and salvation Heb 5v8, 9. read it and heed it !!!
You know what effect it has when 'doing as we are told ? it teaches OBEDIENCE !!! something christians are alien to..only depending on forgiveness and grace all the time.
Obedience is important to God and salvation Heb 5v8, 9. read it and heed it !!!
Messiah said He is Lord of the Sabbath. This means Sabbath is the day of the Lord. To me the great and terrible day of the Lord is the final day before the judgment of man. There is then a thousand year day, Sabbath, reign of Messiah Yahshua with his faithful. Now using early church writings of the early sudo-emissary shouldn't set anyone's faith.
Revelation makes it clear enough that the family of YHWH keep His commandments and the testimony of Messiah Yahshua. If you live by His word the commandment is not burdensome. Being that if we take our lives in our own hands we lose it, and if we loose our life for Messiah's sake we have life. I shall live according to the word of Elohim and the testimony of His Son Yahshua the Messiah. My life was ransomed by way of the law of Liberty to do the good works created before the foundation of the earth. Now I don't find it burdensome to remember that first Sabbath day or even eat what is prescribed for man to eat. Without this instruction I would not have spiritual discernment to know what is clean and unclean. I don't see myself condemned but rather sin housed inside me fully condemned. When you wake up early tomorrow morning and get ready for the gathering into the fellowships around the world. Do you believe you are safe? Because that house you go to is not safety or security. The only reasonable way to know you are safe or saved is to live out scripture for ourselves. We preach love your neighbor as yourself but how have we done this if we don't even love YHWH enough to meet Him on His appointed times?
Revelation makes it clear enough that the family of YHWH keep His commandments and the testimony of Messiah Yahshua. If you live by His word the commandment is not burdensome. Being that if we take our lives in our own hands we lose it, and if we loose our life for Messiah's sake we have life. I shall live according to the word of Elohim and the testimony of His Son Yahshua the Messiah. My life was ransomed by way of the law of Liberty to do the good works created before the foundation of the earth. Now I don't find it burdensome to remember that first Sabbath day or even eat what is prescribed for man to eat. Without this instruction I would not have spiritual discernment to know what is clean and unclean. I don't see myself condemned but rather sin housed inside me fully condemned. When you wake up early tomorrow morning and get ready for the gathering into the fellowships around the world. Do you believe you are safe? Because that house you go to is not safety or security. The only reasonable way to know you are safe or saved is to live out scripture for ourselves. We preach love your neighbor as yourself but how have we done this if we don't even love YHWH enough to meet Him on His appointed times?
When a person is born with it, it seems natural until or if they study or learn enough to discern which is what.
When I use the names of the weeks and months in English i do certainly ignore them.....kind of an unconscious manner of living, I know.
I use the names of days and weeks just as I use the geologic column (time scale), the details of astrophysics, structural geology etc.......I do not ahere to these areas of knowledge as anything but what will go in the fire next time, they are temporal tools that sometimes function and most times when taking them to the nth power they do not.
The only thing that functions for me is faith in our Savior......I like to call Him as HIs parents, disciples and friends most likely called Him, Yeshua, but always bearing in mind His name may be fully translated to being the Salvation of the Self-existing......i
God bless you always and all in the Czech Republic...
In Christ there are no boundaries, we are just as He, well, we will be, God willing... Keep up your good works.
When I use the names of the weeks and months in English i do certainly ignore them.....kind of an unconscious manner of living, I know.
I use the names of days and weeks just as I use the geologic column (time scale), the details of astrophysics, structural geology etc.......I do not ahere to these areas of knowledge as anything but what will go in the fire next time, they are temporal tools that sometimes function and most times when taking them to the nth power they do not.
The only thing that functions for me is faith in our Savior......I like to call Him as HIs parents, disciples and friends most likely called Him, Yeshua, but always bearing in mind His name may be fully translated to being the Salvation of the Self-existing......i
God bless you always and all in the Czech Republic...
In Christ there are no boundaries, we are just as He, well, we will be, God willing... Keep up your good works.
So Pau ltells you not to honor the Sabbath there?
Seems he honored it here;
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 18:21, “But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this Feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if Yah will. And he sailed from Ephesus.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 27:9, “Much time had been lost, and sailing had already become dangerous because by now it was after the Day of Atonement. So Paul warned them.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Day of Atonement” is word #G3521 in Strong's Concordance – nésteia, nésteia: fasting, a fast, Original Word: νηστεία, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: nésteia, Phonetic Spelling: (nace-ti'-ah), Short Definition: fasting, the day of atonement, Definition: fasting, the day of atonement.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 20:16, “Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in the province of Asia, for he was in a hurry to reach Jerusalem, if possible, by the day of Pentecost.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2 is commonly used as a witness against Yah’s Sabbaths, however, Yah’s Sabbath are 100% bout the Messiah and have origins from Yah, not the world or paganism...[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:20, “If, then, you died with Messiah from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to it’s ordinances.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:8, “See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world, and not according to Messiah.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 74:4, “Your adversaries have roared In the midst of Your appointments; They have set up their own signs as signs.”
So keeping Sabbath or feast days "one is enslaved to days?"
What would it be to keep Halloween? Freeedom?
[/FONT]
Seems he honored it here;
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 18:21, “But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this Feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if Yah will. And he sailed from Ephesus.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 27:9, “Much time had been lost, and sailing had already become dangerous because by now it was after the Day of Atonement. So Paul warned them.”[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Day of Atonement” is word #G3521 in Strong's Concordance – nésteia, nésteia: fasting, a fast, Original Word: νηστεία, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: nésteia, Phonetic Spelling: (nace-ti'-ah), Short Definition: fasting, the day of atonement, Definition: fasting, the day of atonement.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 20:16, “Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in the province of Asia, for he was in a hurry to reach Jerusalem, if possible, by the day of Pentecost.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2 is commonly used as a witness against Yah’s Sabbaths, however, Yah’s Sabbath are 100% bout the Messiah and have origins from Yah, not the world or paganism...[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:20, “If, then, you died with Messiah from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to it’s ordinances.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Colossians 2:8, “See to it that no one makes a prey of you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary matters of the world, and not according to Messiah.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 74:4, “Your adversaries have roared In the midst of Your appointments; They have set up their own signs as signs.”
So keeping Sabbath or feast days "one is enslaved to days?"
What would it be to keep Halloween? Freeedom?
[/FONT]
What “Break Bread” Means
Acts 20- This text does not say, as many claim today, that the disciples always
held communion every first day of the week? Not at all!
In the first place, it says nothing about anything being done every first day of the week.
It relates the events of this one particular first day of the week, only.
It is not speaking of any customs, but of the events occurring as Paul and his companions
concluded their seven-day visit in passing by this town.
Jesus had introduced the “Lord’s Supper” as part of the Passover, at the beginning of
the annual “days of unleavened bread.” No longer need they kill lambs or eat the roasted
body of Passover lambs, after Christ, our Passover, had been once slain for us.
The Passover was ordained forever (Exodus 12:24).
At His last Passover supper, Jesus substituted the wine as the emblem of His blood,
instead of the blood of the slain lamb. He substituted the unleavened bread for
the roast body of the lamb as the symbol of His body, broken for us.
The disciples continued to observe the Passover annually, now in the form of
“the Lord’s Supper” using only the bread and wine, as a memorial (1Corinthians 11:24)
of Christ’s death (1Corinthians 11:26), showing His death till He comes again.
They continued to observe the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts 20:6).
This year they had observed the Days of Unleavened Bread and the “Communion” service
at Philippi, after which they came to Troas in five days, where they remained seven days.
After the Sabbath day had ended, [at sunset], “upon the first day of the week…
the disciples came together to break bread.”
Paul was going to walk a long ways across the point in the morning to catch up,
some of his companions allready set sail around the point by sea, a work day.
he was going to be gone for awhile, hence last minute instructions before leaving.
People have assumed this expression to mean the taking of “Communion.”
But notice! Paul preached, and continued preaching until midnight.
They had no opportunity to stop and “break bread” until then. When Paul “therefore
was come up again”—after restoring the one who had fallen down from the third balcony
“and had broken bread, and eaten” Acts 20:11
Note it! “roken bread, and eaten.” This breaking bread was not Communion
—it was simply eating a meal. This expression was commonly used of old to designate
a meal. It still is used in that sense in parts of even the United States.
Notice Luke 22:16, where Jesus was introducing the Lord’s Supper, taking it with His disciples.
He said, “I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”
Yet, the day after His resurrection, after walking with the two disciples to Emmaus,
“..as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them”
(Luke 24:30). Here Jesus “brake bread,” but it was not the Lord’s Supper,
which He said He would not take again. It was a meal—“he sat at meat.”
Notice Acts 2:46. The disciples, “continuing daily with one accord in the temple,
and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness?.…”
Here again, “breaking bread” means eating a meal. Not on the first day of the week, but daily.
Again, when Paul was shipwrecked on the voyage to Rome, the sailors had been fasting out
of fright. But “Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day
that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing.
Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health?.… And when he had
thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he
had broken it, he began to eat” (Acts 27:33-35).
Here Paul broke bread to give to unconverted sailors who were hungry.
The truth is, nowhere in the Bible is the expression “breaking of bread,” or “to break bread,”
used to signify observance of “the Lord’s Supper.” In all these texts it means, simply,
eating a meal.So, when we read in Acts 20:7, 11, “the disciples came together to break bread,”
and how Paul had “broken bread, and eaten,” we know by Scripture interpretation
it referred only to eating food as a meal, not to a Communion service.
Acts 20- This text does not say, as many claim today, that the disciples always
held communion every first day of the week? Not at all!
In the first place, it says nothing about anything being done every first day of the week.
It relates the events of this one particular first day of the week, only.
It is not speaking of any customs, but of the events occurring as Paul and his companions
concluded their seven-day visit in passing by this town.
Jesus had introduced the “Lord’s Supper” as part of the Passover, at the beginning of
the annual “days of unleavened bread.” No longer need they kill lambs or eat the roasted
body of Passover lambs, after Christ, our Passover, had been once slain for us.
The Passover was ordained forever (Exodus 12:24).
At His last Passover supper, Jesus substituted the wine as the emblem of His blood,
instead of the blood of the slain lamb. He substituted the unleavened bread for
the roast body of the lamb as the symbol of His body, broken for us.
The disciples continued to observe the Passover annually, now in the form of
“the Lord’s Supper” using only the bread and wine, as a memorial (1Corinthians 11:24)
of Christ’s death (1Corinthians 11:26), showing His death till He comes again.
They continued to observe the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts 20:6).
This year they had observed the Days of Unleavened Bread and the “Communion” service
at Philippi, after which they came to Troas in five days, where they remained seven days.
After the Sabbath day had ended, [at sunset], “upon the first day of the week…
the disciples came together to break bread.”
Paul was going to walk a long ways across the point in the morning to catch up,
some of his companions allready set sail around the point by sea, a work day.
he was going to be gone for awhile, hence last minute instructions before leaving.
People have assumed this expression to mean the taking of “Communion.”
But notice! Paul preached, and continued preaching until midnight.
They had no opportunity to stop and “break bread” until then. When Paul “therefore
was come up again”—after restoring the one who had fallen down from the third balcony
“and had broken bread, and eaten” Acts 20:11
Note it! “roken bread, and eaten.” This breaking bread was not Communion
—it was simply eating a meal. This expression was commonly used of old to designate
a meal. It still is used in that sense in parts of even the United States.
Notice Luke 22:16, where Jesus was introducing the Lord’s Supper, taking it with His disciples.
He said, “I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”
Yet, the day after His resurrection, after walking with the two disciples to Emmaus,
“..as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them”
(Luke 24:30). Here Jesus “brake bread,” but it was not the Lord’s Supper,
which He said He would not take again. It was a meal—“he sat at meat.”
Notice Acts 2:46. The disciples, “continuing daily with one accord in the temple,
and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness?.…”
Here again, “breaking bread” means eating a meal. Not on the first day of the week, but daily.
Again, when Paul was shipwrecked on the voyage to Rome, the sailors had been fasting out
of fright. But “Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day
that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing.
Wherefore I pray you to take some meat: for this is for your health?.… And when he had
thus spoken, he took bread, and gave thanks to God in presence of them all: and when he
had broken it, he began to eat” (Acts 27:33-35).
Here Paul broke bread to give to unconverted sailors who were hungry.
The truth is, nowhere in the Bible is the expression “breaking of bread,” or “to break bread,”
used to signify observance of “the Lord’s Supper.” In all these texts it means, simply,
eating a meal.So, when we read in Acts 20:7, 11, “the disciples came together to break bread,”
and how Paul had “broken bread, and eaten,” we know by Scripture interpretation
it referred only to eating food as a meal, not to a Communion service.
Therefore, let no one judge you in matters of food and drink or with respect to a festival, a New Moon, or Sabbath days. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Messiah.
(Col 2:16-17 ISV)
It would be preposterous indeed for those who had reaped the benefit of Christ’s victory to put themselves voluntarily under the control of the powers which Christ had conquered.” (Bruce)
(Col 2:16-17 ISV)
It would be preposterous indeed for those who had reaped the benefit of Christ’s victory to put themselves voluntarily under the control of the powers which Christ had conquered.” (Bruce)
Apparently were pre-destined to be saved or not anyway. God "drags" (greek) people to him. And we're fore ordained from the beginning. It's all apparently a console game with AI people.
Some are saved as God chose from the beginning, some, most are not. People will not hear the message unless they are the pre-ordained/elect, chosen before the earth etc.
How you feel about it doesn't matter, because our will is not the will of God.
The "Inner" man cannot sin (Holy Ghost etc?) But the "outer man" is sinful flesh, being brought into obedience by the will of God, the "inner man".
You always feel "unsaved", apparently, because of this continuing conflict, that Paul mentions in other words, also.
So, your pre-judged, pre-saved or pre-saved, from the beginning. There's nothing that you can do of your own will, otherwise, it's against the will of God.
Apparently?
But, no-one has explained how we are guilty by our own responsibility as we did not make ourselves out of the "corrupted clay" of the "darkened earth" that Adam was made of??? Natural man etc. (Grace & truth ministries).
Some are saved as God chose from the beginning, some, most are not. People will not hear the message unless they are the pre-ordained/elect, chosen before the earth etc.
How you feel about it doesn't matter, because our will is not the will of God.
The "Inner" man cannot sin (Holy Ghost etc?) But the "outer man" is sinful flesh, being brought into obedience by the will of God, the "inner man".
You always feel "unsaved", apparently, because of this continuing conflict, that Paul mentions in other words, also.
So, your pre-judged, pre-saved or pre-saved, from the beginning. There's nothing that you can do of your own will, otherwise, it's against the will of God.
Apparently?
But, no-one has explained how we are guilty by our own responsibility as we did not make ourselves out of the "corrupted clay" of the "darkened earth" that Adam was made of??? Natural man etc. (Grace & truth ministries).
What day?
What calendar?
Does it need to be kept at all?
So many people recycling around these questions like clocks.
You can see it on these forums, year after year after year.
Many are still recycling these questions in their last day.
The sabbath comes from the law doesn't it?
If you keep it, you keep it because it is a commandment. Right?
Do you also keep this commandment?
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.
Leviticus 19:26
This commandment is 3 verses, 3 commandments, befor this one.
Ye shall keep My sabbaths, and reverence My sanctuary: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:30
And St Paul's teaching on this has already been shown.
Is it desirable, to always be wondering how to keep the Lord's commandments?
Is it desirable, always feeling "unsaved"?
Paul
What calendar?
Does it need to be kept at all?
So many people recycling around these questions like clocks.
You can see it on these forums, year after year after year.
Many are still recycling these questions in their last day.
The sabbath comes from the law doesn't it?
If you keep it, you keep it because it is a commandment. Right?
Do you also keep this commandment?
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood:
neither shall ye use enchantment, nor observe times.
Leviticus 19:26
This commandment is 3 verses, 3 commandments, befor this one.
Ye shall keep My sabbaths, and reverence My sanctuary: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:30
And St Paul's teaching on this has already been shown.
Is it desirable, to always be wondering how to keep the Lord's commandments?
Is it desirable, always feeling "unsaved"?
Paul
Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
Galatians 4:10
Galatians 4:10
We are in the Hebrew Calendar year 5778.
The wise men who calculated the calendar from the week of creation did so by using only the figures provided in the Tanakh..Old Testament.
They utilized the time from Adam by the ages given in the genealogies.
Because the law is that you shall not add to nor take away from the Word of God, when those wise Hebrews came across an incomplete genealogy, rather than attempting tto guess at the life spanned missing, because of this lae, they simply ignored those spans rather than to add to the Word of God.
You probably realize many of the folks lived hundreds of years, so with this in mind, think about this please:
The year is 5778, only 222 years to the seventh millennium.
Perhaps this does nothing for many, but for me, it says much. The missing genealogies could total very close to 222 years mius the seven years at the end.
Remember with God a thousand years is but a day when it has passed.
No, what I share here is not something I have been given to declare, excepting if you count the reasoning by the Hebrew Calendar above.
I know there is no other calendar with such a message, and I also know that perhaps the missing genalogies are just part of the reason no man knows the day nor the hour.......surely Jesus Christ is returning soon, amen.
The wise men who calculated the calendar from the week of creation did so by using only the figures provided in the Tanakh..Old Testament.
They utilized the time from Adam by the ages given in the genealogies.
Because the law is that you shall not add to nor take away from the Word of God, when those wise Hebrews came across an incomplete genealogy, rather than attempting tto guess at the life spanned missing, because of this lae, they simply ignored those spans rather than to add to the Word of God.
You probably realize many of the folks lived hundreds of years, so with this in mind, think about this please:
The year is 5778, only 222 years to the seventh millennium.
Perhaps this does nothing for many, but for me, it says much. The missing genealogies could total very close to 222 years mius the seven years at the end.
Remember with God a thousand years is but a day when it has passed.
No, what I share here is not something I have been given to declare, excepting if you count the reasoning by the Hebrew Calendar above.
I know there is no other calendar with such a message, and I also know that perhaps the missing genalogies are just part of the reason no man knows the day nor the hour.......surely Jesus Christ is returning soon, amen.