Slain in the Spirit?

[graceNpeace]

It's wasn't being used as an arugmemt until now.
It proves that clearly not everyone who is slain in the Spirit has any evidence of even being a Christian, in the least. She also spoke in tougnes and expeinced Holy Spirit laughter, but that's another topic.

The behaviour of your aunt allows you to draw conclusions about her - perhaps...
But then to try and generalise (and this is what you did) and call into question that what others are doing must also be false is completely illogical.

Something for you to consider: You theory is that because your aunt was an alcoholic that it was impossible for her to be a Christian. By that standard, your own sin disqualifies you as well...

 

[Willie-T]

This "how come it happens?" was one of the first things my wife asked (it happened to her first) and she was told that they thought it might be like Godly anesthesia...... that God needed to do some work in you, and that you would handle it better if you were simply "out." and not resisting or questioning the experience.

 

[joaniemarie]

The Holy Spirit moves and He isn't wacky and full of confusion. But people do have their own ways of reacting to the Holy Spirit. That should not be mistaken to "be" the Holy Spirit. It's a person's personal reaction and that varies from person to person.

Emotional people will act emotionally. Serious people will show less emotion. The Holy Spirit doesn't take over people nor does He intrude on our free will. But we do react personally in His presence. Some are so happy they cry tears of joy. Some stand in awe and worship quietly while others may dance.

I wish people would take that into consideration before they check off a whole portion of Scripture based on how they have seen other people behave. The Holy Spirit is bigger than our emotions.

 

[Innerfire89]

The behaviour of your aunt allows you to draw conclusions about her - perhaps...
But then to try and generalise (and this is what you did) and call into question that what others are doing must also be false is completely illogical.

Something for you to consider: You theory is that because your aunt was an alcoholic that it was impossible for her to be a Christian. By that standard, your own sin disqualifies you as well...

No, my own sin does not disqualify me for anything, habitual sin shows that someone is not a Christian, a tree is know by it's furit. Do you think someone who is being filled with the Holy Spirit in such a way that they are knocked to the floor would still be an alcoholic? When my aunt threw things around the house and screamed cuss word at her family, was that Christ living though her? No.

The first time I mentioned my aunt was while chit chatting with Ugly, you thought I was involving my aunt in the argument, then out of curiosity I asked what you would say if she was part of the argument.

 

[CherieR]

I once wanted to be filled with the Spirit, so I had someone pray for me. I did begin falling forward but instead of falling to the ground, I reached out for support and fell into the arms of a lady. I did not blackout or anything like that. I saw myself going down. I fell backwards one time too, but not for the same reason. I was trying to push something in with my foot( instead of using my hands) and I lost my balance. Thankfully I did not hit my head against the corner of the foosball table; that could have been serious.

I did not know there was a vast difference with falling forward in the bible verses falling backwards. I do recall Judas Iscariot and those with him falling back at the time Judas betrayed Jesus. I did not know falling back had something to do with judgement. I might look into that.

 

[CherieR]

The Holy Spirit moves and He isn't wacky and full of confusion. But people do have their own ways of reacting to the Holy Spirit. That should not be mistaken to "be" the Holy Spirit. It's a person's personal reaction and that varies from person to person.

Emotional people will act emotionally. Serious people will show less emotion. The Holy Spirit doesn't take over people nor does He intrude on our free will. But we do react personally in His presence. Some are so happy they cry tears of joy. Some stand in awe and worship quietly while others may dance.

I wish people would take that into consideration before they check off a whole portion of Scripture based on how they have seen other people behave. The Holy Spirit is bigger than our emotions.

I agree. I reacted with little emotion. I was mostly overwhelmed. I did not know I would feel intense heat when I wanted to be filled with the Spirit and was prayed for. I may have also been surprised. I did not expect that.

 

[NotmebutHim]

Although I'm not Charismatic or Pentecostal, it is worth noting that many in those denominations/movements denounce the excesses which exist. One such example is D. R. McConnell, who wrote the book "A Different Gospel". He is, as far as I know, a Charismatic.

 

[Zi]

For every sin or habit there is a reason for doing so. Some things leave us immediately, others take time. They took time to build, memories, lies bought, all have to be replaced by truth. Truth makes us free.
To deny the giving of the Spirit is to deny the grace/ power needed to walk it out, guidance into all truth.
Alcoholism is usually because of abuse or trauma. Empathy, love lacking from you in her case isn't Christ working thru you... (Others see this just as you can see about your aunt, fault finding helps no one, judge not)

No, my own sin does not disqualify me for anything, habitual sin shows that someone is not a Christian, a tree is know by it's furit. Do you think someone who is being filled with the Holy Spirit in such a way that they are knocked to the floor would still be an alcoholic? When my aunt threw things around the house and screamed cuss word at her family, was that Christ living though her? No.

The first time I mentioned my aunt was while chit chatting with Ugly, you thought I was involving my aunt in the argument, then out of curiosity I asked what you would say if she was part of the argument.

 

[pottersclay]

When Abraham received the holy spirit he got a name change. When Jesus was filled with the holy spirit he was led into the wilderness.
But I guess everyone is different.
Jesus said he will send the comforter (Holy Spirit) he's not controlled by man or a event.

 

[mcubed]

I was with a friend once who during praise and worship, right there in the pew, fell back so hard, her head bounced off the wooden pew and she was out like a light. Just really worshiping G-d all to herself. I thought for sure she would have a major headache when she got up. She did not. After she got up she just kept worshiping. Yes, we can let them just flop like fish, but catching them is a nice thing to do.

 

[graceNpeace]

No, my own sin does not disqualify me for anything, habitual sin shows that someone is not a Christian, a tree is know by it's furit. Do you think someone who is being filled with the Holy Spirit in such a way that they are knocked to the floor would still be an alcoholic? When my aunt threw things around the house and screamed cuss word at her family, was that Christ living though her? No.

The first time I mentioned my aunt was while chit chatting with Ugly, you thought I was involving my aunt in the argument, then out of curiosity I asked what you would say if she was part of the argument.

You are making a lot of assumptions about her righteousness and yours that may not be correct...

 

[Nehemiah6]

I see no where in Scripture anyone falling backwards as the result if healing or any kind of edification or being filled with The Holy Spirit, but instead we see the opposite, we see that the prophets fell face first in amazement of God's glory. But when under judgment they would fall on their backs.

You are absolutely right. There is no biblical authority for this phenomenon at all. People should stay away from faith healers and charlatans who make this an "evidence" of the working of the Holy Spirit. Indeed there is no such term as "slain in the Spirit" in the Bible. So it could well be demonic.

 

[graceNpeace]

You are absolutely right. There is no biblical authority for this phenomenon at all. People should stay away from faith healers and charlatans who make this an "evidence" of the working of the Holy Spirit. Indeed there is no such term as "slain in the Spirit" in the Bible. So it could well be demonic.

Get a grip of your nylons man!
The term "motor car" is not found in the Bible either so it must be demonic right...

I think you need to revisit your logic...

 

[Nehemiah6]

Get a grip of your nylons man! The term "motor car" is not found in the Bible either so it must be demonic right... I think you need to revisit your logic...

And I think you need to revisit your Bible and show us even one instance of such a phenomenon. When Christ and the apostles healed people, THEY WERE RAISED UP, not knocked down to the ground.

 

[graceNpeace]

And I think you need to revisit your Bible and show us even one instance of such a phenomenon. When Christ and the apostles healed people, THEY WERE RAISED UP, not knocked down to the ground.

You cannot make a claim that just because a phrase or term is not used on the Bible then it must be demonic - and you just did.
This last post does nothing to address that astounding sprocket-jump in logic...

 

[BenFTW]

Why do you care for what phenomena happens within church walls? Is Christ glorified? Is Christ preached? Are souls saved? Look to the fruit, and judge not. I've heard stories of people receiving gold teeth, who had dental issues, and God replaced their tooth with a golden one. What does this do? Glorify God. Draw one closer to the Father as it reveals His heart. Shows His majesty and power. So, again, what does it matter what crazy signs, wonders and miracles happen in churches as long as Christ is preached, souls are saved, and people seek the Lord in worship and awe?

Yes the Bible speaks of false signs, wonders, and healing. Yet, a house divided cannot stand, it will fall. How is it all these wonders happen to the glory of God? To the praise of Jesus? To the request of the Spirit to move amongst the people? It is to the glory of God that such things happen, and ultimately so long as Christ and Him crucified is preached unto the salvation of those listening, what issue do you take with it?

 

[heartofdavid]

You are absolutely right. There is no biblical authority for this phenomenon at all. People should stay away from faith healers and charlatans who make this an "evidence" of the working of the Holy Spirit. Indeed there is no such term as "slain in the Spirit" in the Bible. So it could well be demonic.

acts Ch 9; "....and there appeared a light round about Paul,and he was knocked to the ground"

Jesus,upon his arrest answered the "I am He"...and they fell backwards.

So,we have people falling down at the power and presence of Jesus.

But you say it is demonic.

You have been duped by men spinning the bible.

 

[heartofdavid]

Btw,nobody I have ever seen slain in the spirit,has EVER thought the devil did any of it. It is just a massive envelope of liquid love,as if Jesus is pouring his presence like honey into your core. So overwhelming one can not stand.

Kinda like in the bible.

 

[Nehemiah6]

acts Ch 9; "....and there appeared a light round about Paul,and he was knocked to the ground"

Jesus,upon his arrest answered the "I am He"...and they fell backwards.

Both instances have been taken out of context. In both cases THE ENEMIES OF CHRIST fell backwards or were knocked down to the ground. Now kindly go to the healing miracles of Christ and prove your point.

But you say it is demonic. You have been duped by men spinning the bible.

Not at all. Scripture is our ultimate authority, and you will not be able to provide a Scriptural basis for this unscriptural practice.

 

[Zmouth]

[FONT=&quot]If slain in the spirit is unpredictable [/FONT]falling down or losing use or control of the skeletal muscles then it may be a form of 'myotonia congenita'?

If induced by auditory stimuli then the evidence suggests it is self induced, there are even some how-to videos available on-line. Example

I don't think that 'be slain in the spirit' should be in anyway associated with being moved by the Holy Ghost.