So if you are not under the Law, does that mean you are in lawelessness?
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Yes, I realize there are those who think they can be justified by the Law alone. I don't believe that.
But did not Paul say we establish the Law? Surely this is not talking about the Law of Moses. I realize that. So what Law is Paul talking about then? Lawlessness is when a person does not submit to God's righteousness. For a believer cannot murder, cheat, steal, lie, fornicate, or hate because they would not be submitting to God's righteousness. For the fruits of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, etc.
But did not Paul say we establish the Law? Surely this is not talking about the Law of Moses. I realize that. So what Law is Paul talking about then? Lawlessness is when a person does not submit to God's righteousness. For a believer cannot murder, cheat, steal, lie, fornicate, or hate because they would not be submitting to God's righteousness. For the fruits of the Spirit are love, joy, peace, etc.
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Sorry, that passage does not really answer my question. Do you believe you can not follow Jesus Christ and not submit to His commandments and or get away with abiding in certain unrepentant sins and still be saved? I am curious. How do you define "faith"? Is it a mental acknowledgment alone type faith or is a true faith always followed by works?
Yes, I agree with the preaching of the cross aspect you are saying in some parts, but then you do not say anything more after that. Yes, we get right with God by the work of the cross. But is that it? Is that the end of our faith?
What do you mean by corruption is such a lovely thing?
Surely you can't believe that. Corruption is not a lovely thing.
By the quoting of this passage in 2 Timothy 2, it appears that you are in line with doing certain things within your faith.
Sorry, that passage does not really answer my question. Do you believe you can not follow Jesus Christ and not submit to His commandments and or get away with abiding in certain unrepentant sins and still be saved? I am curious. How do you define "faith"? Is it a mental acknowledgment alone type faith or is a true faith always followed by works?
Yes, I agree with the preaching of the cross aspect you are saying in some parts, but then you do not say anything more after that. Yes, we get right with God by the work of the cross. But is that it? Is that the end of our faith?
What do you mean by corruption is such a lovely thing?
Surely you can't believe that. Corruption is not a lovely thing.
By the quoting of this passage in 2 Timothy 2, it appears that you are in line with doing certain things within your faith.
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I agree that God has the power to keep His people. But God does not force people to be saved, though. A person has to choose this day in whom they will serve every day. What about the Parable of the Sower? Did not those who received the seed of the Word suceed over the devil in not taking the Word out of their hearts initially but some of them later fell away due to persecution and or the cares of this life?
Strivings about the Law is in context to the Law of Moses. Paul says in his Word that what he has written is to be considered the Lord's Commandments. Paul says he establishes the Law. Not the Law of Moses but the Law of Christ. Paul says we fulfill the Law by loving our neighbor. Surely discussing these Scriptures that Paul talks about is not wrong. Paul also says if any man speaks contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing. Are you against Godliness or living righteously? Do you believe the author of Hebrews when he says that without holiness, no man shall see the Lord?
Again, why do you keep saying corruption is a lovely thing? Corruption is not a lovely thing. That is a wrong thing to say.
Again, why do you keep saying corruption is a lovely thing? Corruption is not a lovely thing. That is a wrong thing to say.
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Thou Sealest up the Sum, Full of Wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Thou hast been in Eden the Garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast Created.
Thou art the Anointed Cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the Holy Mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the Stones of Fire. Ezekiel
sorry Jason, you have been 'corrupted' by the Master corrupter! oh yes.. beauty .truly is only skin deep, but it is VERY VERY VERY corrupt at times! sorry Corruption is a very very lovely , wise, and beautiful thing.
Some Corruption is IS NOT covered by the blood of Christ.. it cant be Redeemed!
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Rms 3:27 where is boasting then, it is excluded. By what law? Of works? Nay; but by the law of faith.
:28 therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
:29 is he the god of the Jews only? Is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes of the Gentiles also.
:30 seeing it is one god which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and circumcision through faith.
:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid; yea we establish the law.
So the law that is being talked about if the law of faith not the law of works. Through the law of faith we establish the law not make it void.
Jason, I hope that helps in clearing up your question brother.
God bless
:28 therefore we conclude that man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
:29 is he the god of the Jews only? Is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes of the Gentiles also.
:30 seeing it is one god which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and circumcision through faith.
:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid; yea we establish the law.
So the law that is being talked about if the law of faith not the law of works. Through the law of faith we establish the law not make it void.
Jason, I hope that helps in clearing up your question brother.
God bless
Notice the Pharisees, are always concerned about every body else's sin.. persay... yet they dont see their own Hypocrisy and their hardened Heart to the Spirit of Grace...
Its True what Jesus said to those who accused Him falsely , after He healed the blind beggar in the Temple on the Sabbath, they accused the blind man of never being blind, then accused Jesus of being a Sinner...lolz... what did He tell them..???
If ye were blind ye would be without Sin,
but yet you say 'we see'... your Sin remains!
Its True what Jesus said to those who accused Him falsely , after He healed the blind beggar in the Temple on the Sabbath, they accused the blind man of never being blind, then accused Jesus of being a Sinner...lolz... what did He tell them..???
If ye were blind ye would be without Sin,
but yet you say 'we see'... your Sin remains!
The law of faith. Good. Well, how do you define faith? Well, faith without works is a dead faith. So yes, we are not saved by works, but we are saved by grace thru faith that brings forth works. So while we are not saved by doing works in and of themselves, a true saving faith will always result in proving itself to be true by it having works.