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[cv5]

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Here you go bro. Most all inquisitive Christians know these facts by now.
Truth be told, the controversy over the true location of the Temple is over. It's now boilerplate bro.
And the TRUE LOCATION of the Temple is located in THE CITY OF DAVID.....which is Israeli territory right now, today.
End-time eschatological threads are being weaved together right before our very eyes.
Pity the poor preterists and amillennialists.....

https://christianchat.com/threads/third-temple-news.155526/post-5021677

 

[soberxp]

I definitely agree it's all God's perspective. But it is written in a way that to get its full understanding revelation must be given.

Unfortunately, even the vision that God gave me was the words that were described in the Bible.The point is, it's not that we can't understand, it's that we can't really read Bible from God's point of view, and we often add our own feelings to it.

 

[Beckie]

BTW......Israel has undoubtedly been miraculously preserved by God. And never were allowed to be extinguished (just as Jesus said).
And......they are back. As a sovereign nation. In their land. Maybe you failed to notice this notable development?

So you believe Israel is land given to Abraham?

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

God keeps His promises it is us that break them....

Jos 21:43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.
Jos 21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.
Jos 21:45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.


They were a nation while in the wilderness , under King David while in captivity of Babylon. It is/was not the real estate that made them a nation... Nor is the land Christians today live on that makes us a nation.

Here is another one of those small words IF

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

 

[soberxp]

Some folks are hoping for a kingdom unlike the the Kingdom of God . The kingdom of God is ...according to His Word
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

God also promised a land flowing with milk and honey, but modern Israel has not understood what this phrase really means. It is becoming a battlefield every day.

Milk and honey Represents the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

But Israel has always been an sojourn people, biblical or historical, and now they put all their energy into the land,

They think they have a lot of milk and honey，but it's truly none of it.

 

[Cameron143]

Unfortunately, even the vision that God gave me was the words that were described in the Bible.The point is, it's not that we can't understand, it's that we can't really read Bible from God's point of view, and we often add our own feelings to it.

I agree we can't. But God can give us the understanding from His point of view.

 

[cv5]

So you believe Israel is land given to Abraham?

Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

God keeps His promises it is us that break them....

Jos 21:43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.
Jos 21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.
Jos 21:45 There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.


They were a nation while in the wilderness , under King David while in captivity of Babylon. It is/was not the real estate that made them a nation... Nor is the land Christians today live on that makes us a nation.

Here is another one of those small words IF

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
Exo 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Denying God's MANY Biblical prophetic infallible unilateral promises to fully redeem the Nation Israel to Himself at His return is the preterist way, this much is true.

But since scripture cannot be broken, it's going to happen anyway. So do yourself a favor and believe it.

 

[soberxp]

I agree we can't. But God can give us the understanding from His point of view.

God has described himself in the Bible, so to understand, start with these places.

Matthew
6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.


So I'm curious, what part of the Bible do you want to understand or you don't understand?

If you don't understand, then forget about the teachings of anyone else in this world and begin to understand from God's perspective. I believe there is no part you cannot understand.

 

[Beckie]

Denying God's MANY Biblical prophetic infallible unilateral promises to fully redeem the Nation Israel to Himself at His return is the preterist way, this much is true.

But since scripture cannot be broken, it's going to happen anyway. So do yourself a favor and believe it.

You really dont have the moxie to answer direct questions .

 

[cv5]

You really dont have the moxie to answer direct questions .

Because your questions are as nonsensical as your answers. Such is the preterist way I am afraid.....

 

[Cameron143]

God has described himself in the Bible, so to understand, start with these places.

Matthew
6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.


So I'm curious, what part of the Bible do you want to understand or you don't understand?

If you don't understand, then forget about the teachings of anyone else in this world and begin to understand from God's perspective. I believe there is no part you cannot understand.

I appreciate your heart that wants to minister to me but I think it would be difficult even if that was my goal for lack of a common understanding between us due to language. I'm not searching for any particular answers and have been in the faith for 30 years.

 

[soberxp]

I appreciate your heart that wants to minister to me but I think it would be difficult even if that was my goal for lack of a common understanding between us due to language. I'm not searching for any particular answers and have been in the faith for 30 years.

Anyway, remember to read the Bible from God's point of view,
I think this is the first thing that anyone who reads the Bible should pay attention to.

Everyone is welcome to me.

 

[cv5]

You really dont have the moxie to answer direct questions .

BTW....to help you out, understand the difference between CONDITIONAL and UNCONDITIONAL covenants in the Bible.

The CONDITIONAL BILATERAL covenants of the Law of Sinai can be indeed broken by rebellious men, who consequently suffer the consequences that they know perfectly well are coming and due.

The UNCONDITIONAL UNILATERAL covenants made to Abraham, David and Levi have nothing whatsoever to do with any failing of fallen men, in fact they are fulfilled by God Himself DESPITE their inevitable failures.

 

[cv5]

You really dont have the moxie to answer direct questions .

You tell me.....has any of this come to pass? And take note of verses 21 and 22. Futurists have ALL of this in the bag, with perfect understanding and with a view to how it dovetails into the rest of the entirety of the Bible. Flawlessly. Perfectly.

Isaiah 24 (KJV) - Behold, the LORD maketh the (blueletterbible.org)

 

[Beckie]

Because your questions are as nonsensical as your answers. Such is the preterist way I am afraid.....

Applying the age old tactic of developing a common enemy to gain followers is really a sorry excuse for the lack of willingness to answer simple questions. Accusing others of what you are saying /doing is nothing new the liberal government is doing the same.

 

[cv5]

willingness to answer simple questions

Already have (but it went right past you as expected).

Here is your answer with more color to help you out:

Yes, the land covenant was provided to Abraham.
And as I have already stated, it is an UNILATERAL, ETERNAL covenant WITHOUT conditions.
And will be fulfilled to the letter.....AFTER the Second Coming.

What you do not understand (among many many other things) is that the Law of Sanai was TEMPORARY and COMPLEMANTARY, and BILATERAL with conditions.

The Abrahamic and Davidic covenants ARE NOT the same. They are UNILATERAL, ETERNAL covenants WITHOUT conditions.

https://christianchat.com/threads/t...oming-are-being-fulfilled.209446/post-5021740

 

[Beckie]

Because your questions are as nonsensical as your answers. Such is the preterist way I am afraid.....

The simplicity is too much for you. So you are rude and hateful . Big words to say i wont answer because the answer does not fit my theology . You are a word bully sure i dont have the writing skills you do but i understand soon this and at hand,

 

[Cameron143]

The simplicity is too much for you. So you are rude and hateful . Big words to say i wont answer because the answer does not fit my theology . You are a word bully sure i dont have the writing skills you do but i understand soon this and at hand,

Little word users of the world...unite.

 

[soberxp]

@Beckie
@cv5

Your views are all correct.
God does keep his word unilaterally.
But do you want an Israel that goes further and further down the wrong path?
That's not going to do any good for anyone.

 

[Beckie]

Found myself becoming very rude

 

[Beckie]

But do you want an Israel that goes further and further down the wrong path?

No i sure dont Salvation is in the Blood of Jesus. Paul Peter John etc were Jews it was the Blood of Christ that saved them not their human Jewish blood . No way do i appose any one being saved. Salvation is in Him.