THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

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VCO

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You just contradicted yourself in your view in at least three ways..........and YOU embellished the word beyond the context

No, you misunderstood what I was saying.



The Rapture comes in Phases, but is ALL ONE RESURRECTION, those who have received the Righteousness of Christ.
 
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No, you misunderstood what I was saying.



The Rapture comes in Phases, but is ALL ONE RESURRECTION, those who have received the Righteousness of Christ.
Bro...I understood exactly what you wrote and you constantly contradict yourself with this particular subject....quit quoting and or peddling what others believe and pick up your bible and actually study it migo
 

VCO

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Nice pretty pictures.....painted with bias toward a peddled tradition.....GUESTS are NOT and CANNOT be THE BRIDE..........wake up man.....serious!

No, I have the TRUTH, and I KNOW IT, as sure as I KNOW HIM.
 
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No, I have the TRUTH, and I KNOW IT, as sure as I KNOW HIM.
Sure....the Pharisees, Saul and a few others also thought they had the truth.....

Paul told the Corinthian assembly to be ENLARGED <---OPEN to learning and instruction......your hard headed stand against obvious truth that contradicts your view is tragic....

But hey.....it is what it is!
 

VCO

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Bro...I understood exactly what you wrote and you constantly contradict yourself with this particular subject....quit quoting and or peddling what others believe and pick up your bible and actually study it migo

No, I KNOW MY BELIEFS, and I have not contradicted anything.
 

VCO

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Sure....the Pharisees, Saul and a few others also thought they had the truth.....

Paul told the Corinthian assembly to be ENLARGED <---OPEN to learning and instruction......your hard headed stand against obvious truth that contradicts your view is tragic....

But hey.....it is what it is!

No, I have been CONVINCED by the Holy Spirit.

That is how strongly I BELIEVE in the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE of HIS BRIDE.

Nothing you can Say or Do would every get ME to DOUBT my BRIDEGROOM IS COMING.
 

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The Dead In Christ RISE FIRST - And that would include the O.T. Saints that Believed Messiah would COME.

Then WE WHICH REMAIN - All N.T. Saints of all time, […]
Hi VCO,

Regarding the bold ^ ,

how do you account for the fact that Daniel [OT saint] was told he would "rest [that is, in death] and STAND IN THY LOT [that is, be resurrected ('to stand again on the earth')] at the END OF THE DAYS [at the END of the 'days' just referred to in that 12th chpt of Daniel, which is covering the second half of the trib (Dan12:6,7,1)]" ...??

My view is that OT saints are NOT a part of "our Rapture" (as they have not been promised such), but instead ARE "A PART" of the resurrection (and will indeed be present FOR "the promised and prophesied EARTHLY Millennial Kingdom" which will commence upon His "RETURN" to the earth, at just this same point in time that Daniel is said he will be "resurrected" [and again, see the G347 word, as found in Matt8:11 and parallel, as well... etc (Eph1:10 not being "in this present age [singular]")]).

Just curious how you are seeing Dan12:13 (not to mention 12:12, which I believe refers to the "still-living" who will ENTER the MK in mortal bodies). What say you?

Thanks. :)


[to be clear, I am also "pre-trib," like you are... I just see this particular point differently than you do]
 

iamsoandso

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That is just your Bias Opinion.

I think HE WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS IN THE LAND.


You may have misunderstood my post. I'm not meaning "I'm not a supporter"(meaning me) what I'm stating is that he(Levitt) often attacked the DTS in Dallas (and other A9D's,A28D's ect.) and . He himself(Levitt) see/read his old "the Levitt letter" or see if you can find any of his old radio broadcast, lol.
 

iamsoandso

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In any event Levitt was a "Christian Zionist" not a Dispensational like MAD,A13D,A28 Ect.(he was against those) https://www.levitt.com/essays/christian_zionism

That's why I said I was going to just watch(I thought Christian Zionism and MAD had come to agreement,lol) I realize now that most only know Zola Levitt from youtube and not from hearing him or knowing who he supported or was against,lol.
 
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The Rapture comes in Phases, but is ALL ONE RESURRECTION,.
Hope you dont mind me jumping in bro!

But here is one way to put it: "The first resurrection" does not mean FIRST in QUANTITY, but in QUALITY. First class, the resurrection of LIFE, contrasted with the resurrection to damnation.

Anyway, just dropping by to say that those who argue that NO RAPTURE can take place before Rev 20:4 are not taking into consideration the TWO WITNESSES who are caught up. Them guys were VIP I guess no need to wait till Rev 20:4?
 
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^ Abs, I don't hold to the Partial Rapture Theory as you do. I believe Paul said (even to the Corinthians, who he'd earlier in that same letter said were "yet carnal... and walk as [mere] men" (chpt 3) that "we shall ALL be changed" (chpt 15:51).

I'm not convinced that "Ruth" represents "the Church which is His body"... but perhaps, as your sentence said, "Naomi,the Jewess, is covenant through lineage. She was the set up to see to it ruth connected with Boaz," is more corresponding with the whole of Rev7 (and others, like Matt24:14(26:13) and Matt22:8-14[<--not US DOING this "INVITING" to the Wedding FEAST/SUPPER/earthly-MK (that "INVITING" takes place on the earth FOLLOWING our Rapture)]), which I do NOT see as referring to "the Church which is His body" and "our Rapture"...
She represents what she is..the bride.

Partial rapture is obvious.
Firstfruits AUTOMATICALLY means part of the harvest is apart from the main harvest (rapture)

Also,rev 14 is a partial harvest (rapture)

So,there is no way the harvest is one event.
 
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No, I have been CONVINCED by the Holy Spirit.

That is how strongly I BELIEVE in the PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE of HIS BRIDE.

Nothing you can Say or Do would every get ME to DOUBT my BRIDEGROOM IS COMING.
This right here (the bolded) proves how blind you are to what I am saying and or have said.....and you are dead wrong man.......and let me tell you who will pay the price....go look at your family....they will pay the price for your stubbornness and refusal to be open to the truth!
 
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This right here (the bolded) proves how blind you are to what I am saying and or have said.....and you are dead wrong man.......and let me tell you who will pay the price....go look at your family....they will pay the price for your stubbornness and refusal to be open to the truth!
Anyone that would get so poisonous as that needs to take a break.

You cant even be shown scripture and process it. You just start with that attack mode.

Why you so nasty?
 
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You may have misunderstood my post. I'm not meaning "I'm not a supporter"(meaning me) what I'm stating is that he(Levitt) often attacked the DTS in Dallas (and other A9D's,A28D's ect.) and . He himself(Levitt) see/read his old "the Levitt letter" or see if you can find any of his old radio broadcast, lol.
What is dts?
 
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This right here (the bolded) proves how blind you are to what I am saying and or have said.....and you are dead wrong man.......and let me tell you who will pay the price....go look at your family....they will pay the price for your stubbornness and refusal to be open to the truth!
...and yet we are told to pray that very thing.
Read the end of the bible.
 
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Hope you dont mind me jumping in bro!

But here is one way to put it: "The first resurrection" does not mean FIRST in QUANTITY, but in QUALITY. First class, the resurrection of LIFE, contrasted with the resurrection to damnation.

Anyway, just dropping by to say that those who argue that NO RAPTURE can take place before Rev 20:4 are not taking into consideration the TWO WITNESSES who are caught up. Them guys were VIP I guess no need to wait till Rev 20:4?
There is no rapture in rev 20.
Those are beheaded believers that have already been established in heaven and assigned thrones.
They are the same ones we see early on in the trib as the innumerable number.
No rapture or resurrection in rev 20
 

iamsoandso

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I used to watch levitt in those days.
I mainly remember him teaching on the end times.
A jolly plump individual lol
Me too(radio broadcast) he was Acts 2 dispensationist(A2D) and supporter of Christian Zionism. If you notice https://www.levitt.com/essays/dh (and many other letters on the site) and compare it to this thread it is A2D verses A9D,A13D,A28D,,ect.