THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

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VCO

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Hi thanks

That seems odd concern myself with the OT but to concentrate my focus on the NT ?

I would suggest it was never about the flesh but the unsen things of the spirit. When we make it about men as in those play who is the Alfa Jesus got ignored .

Trying to teach them to walk by faith using the parables to aid in and not looking to the things seen the temporal. That who is the church who defines the us Him or those who go out from us as he defines it. It can viewed in both Mark 9 and Luke 9 a lesson on how to hear by faith . . . .through the understandings of parables, after three times still not understanding how faith the gospel message is hid in parables. . ending with a rebuke. . . "You know not what manner of spirit you are of. . . . pointing to the spirt of the world "who is the greatest"

whenever two or three are gathered together under the authority of God (sola scriptura) he is there as the invisible teacher lovingingly comandmnding them to study inorfder to seek his aporoval . But in the multitude of his conselors the word of God their is safety. Not a salvation issue but how do we hear God like fingerprints we all have on our opinions as preiave interptation or hereises . many difernt traditons as long as they do not do despite to the grace that bought us like cathilicicsm for one.

Jesus in a parable talks about His Death. Hiding the understanding as a teaching aid as to how to walk by faith the unseen .


Luke 9: The people were still amazed about all the things Jesus did. He said to his followers, 44 “Don’t forget what I will tell you now: The Son of Man will soon be handed over to the control of other men.” 45 But the followers did not understand what he meant. The meaning was hidden from them so that they could not understand it. But they were afraid to ask Jesus about what he said.

Immediately in a place of confusion to show they missed the understanding …. Who Is the Greatest? Out the way confusing one.

Luke 9:46 Jesus’ followers began to have an argument about which one of them was the greatest. 47 Jesus knew what they were thinking, so he took a little child and stood the child beside him. 48 Then he said to the followers, “Whoever accepts a little child like this in my name is accepting me. And anyone who accepts me is also accepting the one who sent me. The one among you who is the most humble—this is the one who is great.”

Again he set a parable to help aid in walking by faith. . . understand God not seen . . Whoever Is Not Against You or us, Is for You or us.

Luke 9:49 John answered, “Master, we saw someone using your name to force demons out of people. We told him to stop because he does not belong to our group.” Jesus said to him, “Don’t stop him. Whoever is not against you is for you.”

Setting up another to teach us how to walk or understand God without seeing any form called faith . A Samaritan Town

Luke 9:51 The time was coming near when Jesus would leave and go back to heaven. He decided to go to Jerusalem. He sent some men ahead of him. They went into a town in Samaria to make everything ready for him. But the people there would not welcome Jesus because he was going toward Jerusalem. James and John, the followers of Jesus, saw this. They said, “Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven and destroy those people?”

After that he was disappointed that they refused to rightly divide the parables as the word of God. But rather followed after the spirit of this world walking by sight

Luke 9:55 But Jesus turned and criticized them for saying this. Then he and his followers went to another town.


Keep Studying, you need to do a LOT MORE.
 

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me too i like dave hunt.

you know whats crazy all but one preachers i listen to are pre-tribbers lol!

I am Happy the LORD found GOOD BIBLE TEACHER to disciple me. I got off on the wrong foot, and started to listen to Kenneth Copeland. But even I could see that he was as PHONY as a THREE DOLLAR BILL, about 6 weeks in. After that the LORD lead my to some out Standing Bible teachers, back in early 1978. Men Like:

Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. - http://www.gty.org/ sermons dating back to the early 70s - free to listen to.
Dr. Adrian Rogers - http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/love-worth-finding/
Dr. Charles Stanley - http://www.intouch.org/
Dr. Richard Lee - http://www.firstredeemer.org/
Dr. Zola Levitt - http://www.levitt.tv/media/watch/118 - some free - videos
Dr. Ed Young - http://www.winningwalk.org/t-bio.aspx
Dr. Gil Rugh - http://www.ihcc.org/ - free sermons dating back to the late 70s - free
Dr. Chuck Swindoll - http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/insight-for-living/
Dr. Walter Martin - https://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/martin_walter/
Dr. Ben Haden - http://changedlives.org/WHY
Dr. J. Dwight Pentecost - http://www.dts.edu/read/dr-dwight-pentecost-dies-age-99/
 

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Keep Studying, you need to do a LOT MORE.

Thanks, any ideas what to study. I have a interest in studying as to how we can hear God and not men .Seeing we warned of those who say we must have a man to teach us as the spirit of the antichrist. We must be careful how we hear. There seems to be many prescriptions on the hearing of faith Any books you could recommend?
 

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Thanks, any ideas what to study. I have a interest in studying as to how we can hear God and not men .Seeing we warned of those who say we must have a man to teach us as the spirit of the antichrist. We must be careful how we hear. There seems to be many prescriptions on the hearing of faith Any books you could recommend?
I recommend that you study basic English grammar, sentence structure, punctuation and spelling. These will help you on this forum. Bible insights won't be any good to anyone else if you can't consistently form readable sentences with which to convey those insights to others.
 

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Answering the OP..

Are you saved? Then you were called..

"for many are called but few are chosen"

I was called out of my previous faith into a relationship with God through the Christ, Jesus..

Anyone who was saved and anyone who will ever be saved was called. Literally.
 

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Thanks, any ideas what to study. I have a interest in studying as to how we can hear God and not men .Seeing we warned of those who say we must have a man to teach us as the spirit of the antichrist. We must be careful how we hear. There seems to be many prescriptions on the hearing of faith Any books you could recommend?

Amen, a willing hungry soul, the LORD WILL FEED. I have suggestion, and IT IS THE SAME Sermon Series that I listened to live on Radio, and had my wife tape the series. THEN I Relistened to every single tape THREE more times EACH. It gave me a VERY good handle on what REVELATION is ALL ABOUT. It is a tape Series that Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. did during the about 1979, and it is RIGHT ON even though that is 40 years ago.

Here is the link to the tape series to his sermons.
The first Tape in the series is: A JET TOUR THROUGH REVELATION.

https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=66&chapter=0


Shortly after he did that series, he did a series called: The Rise and Fall of the World, only 3 parts to that one. It gave me a solid view of how Nebuchadnezzar's dream fit in with the Revelations series.

https://www.gty.org/library/resources/sermons-library/scripture/1?book=27&chapter=0

Thank you for asking. ENJOY!
 

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I accidentally downloaded the WORST Virus I have ever seen yesterday. It Crippled my NORTON Internet Security, so bad I could not find anything on it that worked, included how to get online Tech Support. ALL MY Browsers were corrupted too. Luckily on my Menu bar was one site to Chrome Images, that worked so via a round about way I got online support to help me. After hours of trying, they finally defeated the Virus. It was what they call My Way Browser High-Jacker. It has a small logo on their imitation CHROME, in a corner a Multi-Colored Circle with MW in the middle of that circle. If you see that little logo MW on any website, with a colored circle around it (red top, blue bottom, left is yellow and right is Green), that is a NASTY VIRUS, so do not click on that anything on that website. And run your Virus Detector.

I was looking for a free Mahjong game to play and clicked on a site of Common Games, and it TURNED OUT TO BE THAT BAD VIRUS.
 

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I accidentally downloaded the WORST Virus I have ever seen yesterday. It Crippled my NORTON Internet Security, so bad I could not find anything on it that worked, included how to get online Tech Support. ALL MY Browsers were corrupted too. Luckily on my Menu bar was one site to Chrome Images, that worked so via a round about way I got online support to help me. After hours of trying, they finally defeated the Virus. It was what they call My Way Browser High-Jacker. It has a small logo on their imitation CHROME, in a corner a Multi-Colored Circle with MW in the middle of that circle. If you see that little logo MW on any website, with a colored circle around it (red top, blue bottom, left is yellow and right is Green), that is a NASTY VIRUS, so do not click on that anything on that website. And run your Virus Detector.

I was looking for a free Mahjong game to play and clicked on a site of Common Games, and it TURNED OUT TO BE THAT BAD VIRUS.
Thats great that they defeated it.
You couldn't do system restore to an earlier date?
 

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i put my earlier post in wronng thread:

does this proof pretrib rapture when Jesus says its going to be like in the days of noah people were drinking eating and marrying and given in marriage.

but think about it, if this is talking about the second coming how can it say that because all over planet its going to be seals trumpets vials unleashing planet going crazy devastation like never seen before. that doesnt sound like all going same way again.

but if its talking about rapture then it would make sense, its all going like normal then rapture and then it says flood (seals trumpets vials) came and took them all away?

what do u say about this argument friends.
 

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i put my earlier post in wronng thread:

does this proof pretrib rapture when Jesus says its going to be like in the days of noah people were drinking eating and marrying and given in marriage.

but think about it, if this is talking about the second coming how can it say that because all over planet its going to be seals trumpets vials unleashing planet going crazy devastation like never seen before. that doesnt sound like all going same way again.

but if its talking about rapture then it would make sense, its all going like normal then rapture and then it says flood (seals trumpets vials) came and took them all away?

what do u say about this argument friends.
bulls eye!
Right down the middle!
 

VCO

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i put my earlier post in wronng thread:

does this proof pretrib rapture when Jesus says its going to be like in the days of noah people were drinking eating and marrying and given in marriage.

but think about it, if this is talking about the second coming how can it say that because all over planet its going to be seals trumpets vials unleashing planet going crazy devastation like never seen before. that doesnt sound like all going same way again.

but if its talking about rapture then it would make sense, its all going like normal then rapture and then it says flood (seals trumpets vials) came and took them all away?

what do u say about this argument friends.

Matthew 25:1-13 is ALL about the Pre-Trib Rapture.
 

VCO

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Thats great that they defeated it.
You couldn't do system restore to an earlier date?

Did not try that, as you get one Free Virus Restore with each years membership. Besides I do not think even System Restore would defeat this Virus. It is so sophisticated that it can restore itself even after normal methods of trying to a restore. I finally did find what I think is a safe Mahjong game. It is called 247Mahjong, and as soon as I saw it, I remember it is what I used to have on my OLD PC. It is Free and has about 26 of the Layouts, and the big PLUS is it uses laid back music while you play. You see, I do a lot of my Posting late at night. And it unwinds my mind after a heated debate on this, tightens it up. So I am glad I found it again, it helps me to sleep better when I play it just before going to sleep.
 

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You see, I believe there are things that we need to learn in the BIBLE, and it amazes me at the age of 70, I am still learning.
I will keep learning til the Day I Die. Then and only then will I know like I am KNOWN.
 

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. . haunted by the memory of a lost paradise . .

. . chained forever to a world that’s departed . .
...but then Jesus came.
We are free and filled with joy.

Anytime that changes we adjust in faith,get refilled,and enjoyy his smiling face and favor on us once again.

Two,no wait,4 huge trials are before me right now.
My level of victory is directly dependant on ability to disconnect and connect in faith.

Invoke faith. Get into that realm and keep refocusing.

(I am only preaching to myself)
 

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I do not remember if I had this posted before, but it BARES REPEATING.

Do you remember the VERSES:

1 Corinthians 15:51-53 (HCSB)
51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery: We will not all fall asleep, but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed with incorruptibility, and this mortal must be clothed with immortality.

Every single mortal bound for HEAVEN, must Have his Mortal Body, changed into the GLORIFIED BODY to enter into HEAVEN.

IT happens in the Twinkling of an Eye, or In the Blink of an Eye, THE GLORIFIED BODY, can enter into HEAVEN.


The Last Trump, has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TRUMPET JUDGEMENTS, it is PART OF THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS. The conclusion of those Trumpet Blast is CALLED THE LAST TRUMP. The Feast of Trumpets is a Picture Prophecy of CHRIST returning FOR HIS BRIDE.

(Quote) This comes from a Messianic Christian Site, and will explain the FEAST, know as Rosh HaSanah, the LAST TRUMP

The site is CALLED: Promises To Israel

3. Fulfillment of the Feast of Trumpets:

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18: This passage speaks of the rapture and the trump of God. It gives seven points as to the Rapture itself.

1 Corinthians 15:50-58: This second passage deals with the details of the Rapture and also mentions the role that the trumpet will play. The trumpet mentioned in verse 52 is the last trump. Here Paul draws from Isaiah 27:13 but he also drawls from rabbinic tradition in the use of the Tekiah Gedolah, the last trump to signal the Rapture of the Church.
https://promisestoisrael.org/jewish-culture-2/jewish-holidays/rosh-hashanah-the-feast-of-trumpets/ (End Quote)

It is impossible to understand the LAST TRUMP, without studying THE FEASTS OF ISRAEL. That site above is a GOOD one for that.

As far as I know, it has been called The Last TRUMP has been the title, ever since the Feast was first implemented after LEVITICUS 23:24 was WRITTEN.

HERE IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE:

Last Trump of the Feast of Trumpets

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Does anyone on this THREAD understand that JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT of the SEVEN FEASTS OF ISRAEL ? ? ?

Here is a Video Series on the SEVEN FEASTS OF ISRAEL by Zola Levitt. https://www.levitt.tv/media/series/DSFI

Sometime I feel Like I am talking to a wall, WHEN I mention any thing to Do will the Seven Feasts of Israel.

Recently, I have been talk about Rosh HaSanah or the Feasts of Trumpets. The 100th blast from the Shofar Trumpet, is CALLED the LAST TRUMP.

I FORGOT ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT. The Congregation of 1 Corinthians was made up of about 50 percent JEWS, and 50 percent ex-pagans. Paul would have had to write at least TWO PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN WHY HIS REFERENCE TO THE LAST TRUMP, WAS NOT THE LAST TRUMP THEY KNEW AND CELEBRATED EVERY YEAR. Now do not make me explain with TWO PARAGRAPHS to you all, to get you to understand IT CANNOT BE THE 7th TRUMPET JUDGEMENT, because that was not even Written until 96 AD. 1 Cor. 15:51 was written approximately 54 AD. AND PAUL DID NOT WRITE ANY EXPLANATION THAT IS WAS NOT A REFERENCE TO LAST TRUMP, of Rosh HaShanah that those JEWS would have been VERY FAMILIAR WITH.


1 Corinthians 15:51-54 (NIV)
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--
52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
 
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Does anyone on this THREAD understand that JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT of the SEVEN FEASTS OF ISRAEL ? ? ?

Here is a Video Series on the SEVEN FEASTS OF ISRAEL by Zola Levitt. https://www.levitt.tv/media/series/DSFI

Sometime I feel Like I am talking to a wall, WHEN I mention any thing to Do will the Seven Feasts of Israel.

Recently, I have been talk about Rosh HaSanah or the Feasts of Trumpets. The 100th blast from the Shofar Trumpet, is CALLED the LAST TRUMP.

I FORGOT ONE VERY IMPORTANT POINT. The Congregation of 1 Corinthians was made up of about 50 percent JEWS, and 50 percent ex-pagans. Paul would have had to write at least TWO PARAGRAPHS TO EXPLAIN WHY HIS REFERENCE TO THE LAST TRUMP, WAS NOT THE LAST TRUMP THEY KNEW AND CELEBRATED EVERY YEAR. Now do not make me explain with TWO PARAGRAPHS to you all, to get you to understand IT CANNOT BE THE 7th TRUMPET JUDGEMENT, because that was not even Written until 96 AD. 1 Cor. 15:51 was written approximately 54 AD. AND PAUL DID NOT WRITE ANY EXPLANATION THAT IS WAS NOT A REFERENCE TO LAST TRUMP, of Rosh HaShanah that those JEWS would have been VERY FAMILIAR WITH.


1 Corinthians 15:51-54 (NIV)
51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed--
52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
I agree with you, Christ is the fulfillment of the feasts. What has he not fulfilled yet?

Also, the last trump is a reference to the two trumpets in the book of numbers.

Num 10:2 (KJV) Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.

The first trump was the Old Testament and the last trump was the New Testament.

The former rain is the Old Testament and the later rain is the New Testament.

Just passing this along, I know this doesn’t fit your end times scenario so you don’t have argue against it. :)
 
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I agree with you, Christ is the fulfillment of the feasts. What has he not fulfilled yet?

Also, the last trump is a reference to the two trumpets in the book of numbers.

Num 10:2 (KJV) Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.

The first trump was the Old Testament and the last trump was the New Testament.

The former rain is the Old Testament and the later rain is the New Testament.

Just passing this along, I know this doesn’t fit your end times scenario so you don’t have argue against it. :)

Matthew 11:13,,,Luke 2:44 and Acts 2:17,,Joel 2:38,,Isaiah 44:3,,,Revelation 11:3

So there is one group of things and then another group that are given after the first set is fulfilled. So one group of things are fulfilled and then there's the second group that is given and then they unfold.
 
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Matthew 11:13,,,Luke 2:44 and Acts 2:17,,Joel 2:38,,Isaiah 44:3,,,Revelation 11:3

So there is one group of things and then another group that are given after the first set is fulfilled. So one group of things are fulfilled and then there's the second group that is given and then they unfold.
All the prophets prophesied til John.
Jesus tarrying in Jerusalem as a child.
Pentecost fulfilled.
Prophecy of Pentecost.
Prophecy of Pentecost again is Isa.
Two witnesses.

I’m not sure what you’re getting at soandso.