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Jesus explains how we can eat His flesh and drink His blood. See the connection here between these verses (John 6)....
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him at the last day" (v40).
"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day" (v54).
"Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him at the last day" (v40).
"Whoever eats my flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day" (v54).
1 Corinthians 11:24-25: "Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.”
re·mem·brance
noun \ri-ˈmem-brən(t)s also -bə-rən(t)s\
Definition of REMEMBRANCE
1: the state of bearing in mind
2a : the ability to remember : memory
b : the period over which one's memory extends
3: an act of recalling to mind
4: a memory of a person, thing, or event
5a : something that serves to keep in or bring to mind : reminder
b : commemoration, memorial
re·mem·brance
noun \ri-ˈmem-brən(t)s also -bə-rən(t)s\
Definition of REMEMBRANCE
1: the state of bearing in mind
2a : the ability to remember : memory
b : the period over which one's memory extends
3: an act of recalling to mind
4: a memory of a person, thing, or event
5a : something that serves to keep in or bring to mind : reminder
b : commemoration, memorial
YES exactly
In John 6 Jesus is speaking of what a person must do to inherit eternal life. They must believe on him, and if they keep/hear his word they will have eternal life.
But the communion table is what we do in remembrance of what Christ did for us at Calvary. The act of communion itself does not give eternal life, two different things
In John 6 Jesus is speaking of what a person must do to inherit eternal life. They must believe on him, and if they keep/hear his word they will have eternal life.
But the communion table is what we do in remembrance of what Christ did for us at Calvary. The act of communion itself does not give eternal life, two different things
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I believe that if you've been taught that you don't need to take part in that Sacriment and you believe with all your heart that what you've been taught is true, then of course you won't go to hell. Our Lord is a loving God, looking to love us, not looking to punish us. Which is why He tells us that we will be judged by what's in our hearts. But, I believe that if you've been taught that the Sacriment is true, and you think that there's a slight chance that it might be true and you don't at least research to find out for yourself, then you will be judged on that. But thats just my opinion. Either way, remember God's looking for a way to love us, not punish us. God bless!
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hahaha Now there's a difference between believing with just cause after studying and researching, and believing to suit your own needs. At the end of the day, you can fool man all u want, but God knows what's in your heart. Don't twist it around to make it look like i said that u can do what you like! That's a very poor interpretation of what i just said and a real childish comeback i think. All I'm saying is, when judgement comes, we will be judged according to what is in our hearts. On what we have been exposed to (whether the Truth or otherwise). Now answer this, do you think athiests or africans that have never heard anything about Christ will go to hell? And if they have a chance of getting in to heaven, how will they be judged?
Is it "reason" resisting God's truth? "Reason" says the body and blood of Christ cannot be present in the elements of communion. It is not spiritual enough, the Spirit must be sought after elsewhere. "Reason" says that man cannot forgive sins, only God can do that, so confession and absolution is not needed. So "reason" often says. What does the Word of God say?
Matthew 24:23-26: "Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. “Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it" (Another translation of 'Inner Rooms' from the Greek is container/ box)
Our English translations say that false Christs and false prophets will rise. It also mentions that some might say He would appear in the “secret chambers” or “inner rooms” or “inner chambers,” a look at the original Greek word tameion provides some very interesting insight. With reference to Strong’s Concordance, the actual meaning of the Greek word tameion that is translated as inner rooms is:
tameion (tam-i'-on); neuter contraction of a presumed derivative of tamias (a dispenser or distributor; akin to temno, to cut); a dispensary or magazine, i.e. a chamber on the ground-floor or interior of an Oriental house (generally used for storage or privacy, a spot for retirement)
In other words, the original Greek word tameion, actually refers to some kind of storage container or dispensary. A vessel or a container to store or dispense a counterfeit Christ?
Our English translations say that false Christs and false prophets will rise. It also mentions that some might say He would appear in the “secret chambers” or “inner rooms” or “inner chambers,” a look at the original Greek word tameion provides some very interesting insight. With reference to Strong’s Concordance, the actual meaning of the Greek word tameion that is translated as inner rooms is:
tameion (tam-i'-on); neuter contraction of a presumed derivative of tamias (a dispenser or distributor; akin to temno, to cut); a dispensary or magazine, i.e. a chamber on the ground-floor or interior of an Oriental house (generally used for storage or privacy, a spot for retirement)
In other words, the original Greek word tameion, actually refers to some kind of storage container or dispensary. A vessel or a container to store or dispense a counterfeit Christ?
When a person partakes of communion, what matters to God is that they do so with heartfelt thanks for what Christ did for them at Calvary, and praise and worship Him for this
Whether a person actually believes the bread and wine becomes Christ's body and blood I am convinced is not the important thing by any means, but HOW IN YOUR HEART you come before God in the partaking of communion, that is what matters to God.
Doctrine(apart from salvational issues) will never matter as much as does the heart to God, and the partaking of communion is not a salvation issue
Do ye in rememberence of me
Whether a person actually believes the bread and wine becomes Christ's body and blood I am convinced is not the important thing by any means, but HOW IN YOUR HEART you come before God in the partaking of communion, that is what matters to God.
Doctrine(apart from salvational issues) will never matter as much as does the heart to God, and the partaking of communion is not a salvation issue
Do ye in rememberence of me
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There's alot of truth in this. God bless you Mark. I think in all this discussing, alot of us forget that the Almighty is up there watching us, and sometimes go too far in what we say to eachother, hurting eachother. Sometimes intentionally and sometimes not so. I agree with you on the fact that, no matter what you do, no matter what denomination you come from, whether partaking in the Eucharist or otherwise, if it's done while not being right with God, then it shouldn't be done at all. What's in the heart is on the top of God's agenda, I think anyway. God bless. I'm out.
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Acts 15:19-20
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, [SUP]20 [/SUP]but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,[SUP][a][/SUP] from things strangled, and from blood.
[h=3]Acts 15:28-29[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: [SUP]29 [/SUP]that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[SUP][a][/SUP] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Therefore I judge that we should not trouble those from among the Gentiles who are turning to God, [SUP]20 [/SUP]but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality,[SUP][a][/SUP] from things strangled, and from blood.
[h=3]Acts 15:28-29[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: [SUP]29 [/SUP]that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.[SUP][a][/SUP] If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well.
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This is how:
Romans 1:19-24
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, [SUP]21 [/SUP]because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Professing to be wise, they became fools, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Romans 1:19-24
New King James Version (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, [SUP]21 [/SUP]because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Professing to be wise, they became fools, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.