The Error of KJV-Onlyism
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That verse applies to every translation, not just the KJV.
Large unsubstantiated assumption there.
If modern readers can't understand it, it's worth "missing". There is nothing inherently superior (from a spiritual standpoint) about the language of the KJV.
What you think is readable does not correspond with what everyone else thinks is readable. Your opinion on "readable" carries no evidentiary weight. It suits you but that means nothing for anyone else.
Large unsubstantiated assumption there.
If modern readers can't understand it, it's worth "missing". There is nothing inherently superior (from a spiritual standpoint) about the language of the KJV.
What you think is readable does not correspond with what everyone else thinks is readable. Your opinion on "readable" carries no evidentiary weight. It suits you but that means nothing for anyone else.
I don't know... you're taking a huge RISK when you trust newer translations, you might be reading about another Jesus for all you know just because someone went to get a coffee when translating the Gospel According to John and translated a word wrong along the way (or something got in their head from the radio or a particular famous pastor's sermon that shapes their worldview or view on translation), it might get silly just thinking about it... I think the standard KJV is the Holy Bible based on personal experience and don't know what else to say, but the language is readable. Sorry if I'm coming off rude or condescending.
More from the Kool-Aid stand. Again, you're not rude or condescending, but your arguments are based in fear and error and a fundamental mistrust of the process.
Do you think the KJV translators were above such simple errors... when they didn't have electric lights, central heating, or spell-check? Do you consider the possibility that a mouse distracted one of them at a critical moment, or do you reserve your ridiculous scenarios for the modern translations while holding up the KJV as not subject to error?
Do you think the KJV translators were above such simple errors... when they didn't have electric lights, central heating, or spell-check? Do you consider the possibility that a mouse distracted one of them at a critical moment, or do you reserve your ridiculous scenarios for the modern translations while holding up the KJV as not subject to error?
Well, I might not be versed in the academia of the newer translations but why else would they have come about lest someone didn't like the KJV? And the KJV is apparently usable... what more argument need there be? I'm in my later 30's and not highly educated and can read it fine. Why go for a newer translation when there is an inherent risk to it (you might not think so), and run the gambit (take your chances)? Just trying to help and share my point of view.
He did!
The following is from https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/kvj.53372/#post-844326 (post date 2012-11-30):
What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
The following is from https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/kvj.53372/#post-844326 (post date 2012-11-30):
What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
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He did!
The following is from https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/kvj.53372/#post-844326 (post date 2012-11-30):
What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
The following is from https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/kvj.53372/#post-844326 (post date 2012-11-30):
What people don't understand about the KJV is that it will NEVER be "out-dated"...
In 5 years, you may need a new [modern bible version] - because the modern language will have changed enough to alter the meaning of the text.
In 10 years, you may need another still...
("Speaking strictly in terms of translation - not to mention 'error', etc.")
NOT SO with the KJV.
Unlike modern English - which is changing continually - the "middle English" of the KJV is "a snapshot in time" - fixed and un-changing.
No matter what changes in modern language, the language of the KJV will not have changed "one iota" -- in truth, it is actually "timeless"...
That is the "beauty" of it. God has "seen to it" that it does not change with the times...
You have to think of it like a second language -- once you learn that language - you are "good for life" - because it will not ever change -- this is how you have to look at it.
And then, you get the benefit of the "completeness" of the KJV.
I grew up with the KJV. I understand it better than any other version I have ever read from. I wouldn't trade it for any other version - under any circumstances.
It contains information that all the others have lost in their translation.
It is that good. It is that important. It is that "vital" to gaining the most accurate understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew texts.
"Has it ever occurred to you that Satan is trying to change the modern language as fast as he can so that people will 'throw out' the KJV?"
Believe it!
"I believe the KJV is STILL the BEST available English Bible translation BY FAR."
Did you know that our traditional text KJ Bible is not written in Old English?
It is actually modern English. With exception of a handful of words, it has been a stabilizer for our language. It was translated at a point when the quickly evolving language slowed way down to offer the perfect timing for printing and publishing. It has had revisions of punctuation and spelling, but has essentially remained as it was for 400 years. That in itself is linguistically remarkable!
I have heard people who consider themselves experts on the subject make the same remark. That's why I take it easy on those who say my Bible is Old English. That fallacy has been repeated so many times by so called experts, like James White, that it's become a common misnomer.
They have gained such following in Evangelical circles that people consider them experts rather than the actual translators of the King James Bible.
Old English is not similar to my Bible.
It is actually modern English. With exception of a handful of words, it has been a stabilizer for our language. It was translated at a point when the quickly evolving language slowed way down to offer the perfect timing for printing and publishing. It has had revisions of punctuation and spelling, but has essentially remained as it was for 400 years. That in itself is linguistically remarkable!
I have heard people who consider themselves experts on the subject make the same remark. That's why I take it easy on those who say my Bible is Old English. That fallacy has been repeated so many times by so called experts, like James White, that it's become a common misnomer.
They have gained such following in Evangelical circles that people consider them experts rather than the actual translators of the King James Bible.
Old English is not similar to my Bible.