The GAP Theory

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glf

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Yup. Pretty much. But I do not see perfect Adam as "lesser".

In fact I think that Satan (the wisest and most powerful of all created beings) tried MANY times to deceive Adam and FAILED every time. Then I think that Satan gave up and focused on destroying Adam by attacking the Woman. Who WAS in a sense inferior.

Remember......fully 1/3 of the angels "fell to their death". So in the sense of being prone to deception, perhaps THEY were inferior.

And also there is this:

Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man H120 ***ADAM*** in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Never are angels so described by God. Sons of God yes. But this description is unique.

It may be that Adam had to give up his life willingly (***not deceived***), as it MAY have been impossible to deceive him.
And Adam is a type of Christ Who also cannot be deceived.

I am not trying to make doctrine here......just my opinion and food for thought.

Heb 1: 5-7
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1: 13, 14
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Angels have never been called sons and daughters of the Lord. Those titles are reserved for mankind...
 

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No, it is not speculation.... Genesis 1:2 in the Hebrew indicates utter destruction.

So much so, that Jeremiah cited Genesis 1:2 (in the Hebrew) to slam the disobedient rebellious Jews to show them how badly God was going to destroy their nation.

Jeremiah 4:23 is the same Hebrew as Genesis 1:2.

And, take a look! Because the Jews understood Hebrew, and understood the utter destruction found in Genesis 1:2?
Jeremiah in verse 27 had to soften it up a bit.... and tell them, in their case, they will not face utter destruction..

Young earthers typically never get that shown to them.

Here it is....

Jeremiah 4:22-27


22 “For my people are foolish,
they have not known me.
They are foolish children,
and they do not have insight.
They are skillful at doing evil,
and they do not know how to do good.”
23 I looked at the earth, and behold, it was wasteland and emptiness,
and to the heavens, and they were without their light. (Gen 1:2!)
24 I looked at the mountains, and behold, they were quaking,
and all of the hills were jolted to and fro.
25 I looked and behold, there was no person,
and all of the birds of the sky had fled.
26 I looked and behold, the fruitful land was a desert,
and all of its cities were ruined before Yahweh,
before the face of his burning anger.
27 For thus says Yahweh, “All of the land will be a desolation,
yet I will not make a complete desolation. (like Genesis 1:2 spoke of!)
There we have it!
Agree those passages definitely and intentionally refer to Genesis 1:2.
No doubt in my mind whatsoever.

Also agree with your interpretation of verse 27.
 

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I aways say that even if I was at the bottom of the Ocean, I would not fear because I know that the Lord Jesus would be there to help me. Amen.

I always think of the Lord to be everywhere present and nowhere absent, and also, every-when present and no-when absent...
 

glf

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Lucifer's boast of Isaiah 14, which God is using against him, is about Lucifer's original claim that he would sit on GOD's Throne.

Isa 14:12-15
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground,
which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."


15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
KJV



Lucifer's rebellion in that old world which God destroyed involved a previous 'beast' kingdom...

Rev 12:3-4
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold
a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
KJV


That 'beast' kingdom above is not... the one shown later in Revelation 13. That above beast kingdom happened when Lucifer first drew those one third of stars (angels) to earth, at his original first rebellion of old. Notice the number of 'crowns' are different, that one of old had only 7 crowns. The one in Rev.13:1 for the end of this world is to have 10 crowns.

What Lord Jesus is showing us with the above Scripture is a reference to those "nations" under Lucifer before he rebelled, in the old world before Adam and Eve. Those who struggle with this simply do not know about that "world that then was" of 2 Peter 3, and instead follow men's traditions instead of keeping what God's Word shows about this.

Thusly, is Revelation 13 when speaking of the beast that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns mean a literal beast kingdom over this earth at the end? Yes. The first beast of Rev.13:1 is a beast kingdom. But the Rev.13:11 "another beast", is about the concept of a 'beast king', like what is covered in Revelation 17. Will that Rev.13:1 beast kingdom involve nations on this earth? Yes, which is what the Rev.13:4-8 Scripture specifically points to. And the 'great city' Rev.17 points to that is over it all, i.e., the beast kingdom headquarters for the end, is Jerusalem. That is revealed at the end of Rev.17:18 and at Rev.11:8 of where Lord Jesus Christ was crucified.

Rev.9:11 reveals that Satan is the 'king' over the bottomless pit. Might he have been a type of king over those Rev.12:3 beast nations? Possibly, but that's really only speculation. The important matter is to mark what God said about Lucifer wanting to be The KING, sitting in GOD's Throne. This is what today's world is being prepared for with the future Rev.13:1 beast kingdom. God is going to allow Satan to come to our present world and sit upon the throne in Jerusalem in place of Christ (2 Thess.2).

As I said before on this thread, knowing about that old world before Lucifer rebelled in coveting God's Throne is not a Salvation issue. Yet knowing about it can help explain many things written in God's Word.

Is 14: 18-20
All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house. But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet. Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

Here we see that the evil one was a mortal who was kicked out of his grave to be a disembodied spirit, held in chains of darkness. He will be cast into a bottomless pit during Jesus' millennial reign and then cast into the lake of fire at the Lord's great white throne judgement, forevermore...
 

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I suspect that Adam knew he was choosing Eve over the Lord...
Adam knew exactly what he was doing. Precisely what he was doing.
And so did Jesus Christ of Whom he is a type.

Both were taking responsibility for the sin of their wives by willingly dying for their sake.
 

Genez

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Adam knew exactly what he was doing. Precisely what he was doing.
And so did Jesus Christ of Whom he is a type.
Satan studies his potential victims to find the areas of weakness before tempting them .

Satan was watching while the Lord would teach Adam and the woman in the Garden.
I would assume that the woman and Adam were both enthralled with the Lord.
And, possibly Adam felt a sense of inadequacy for himself when he saw how Eve adored the Lord's superior mind.

One pastor I learn from exegeted the Hebrew.
Much to my surprise, he taught that when Adam ate? He munched and ate with gusto.
I used to wonder why that was so.

Well... When Adam heard that the fruit would make him to be like the Lord?
Adam who craved to be like the Lord, when he ate, he was not just eating to get food!
Adam wanted very much to become like the Lord.
In a way it was a noble desire. But, naïve.
And, required disobedience to fulfill it.

“For God knows that in the day you eat of it, your eyes will
be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”


Once his resistance broke down, Adam jumped on the idea!

The rest is history.
 

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Adam knew exactly what he was doing. Precisely what he was doing.
And so did Jesus Christ of Whom he is a type.
Both were taking responsibility for the sin of their BRIDES by willingly dying for their sake.