The Holy Spirit convicts of sin

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Grace777x70

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Might want to pm a mod and make sure it's not breaking any rules.
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Everyone posts articles and videos from all over the place. These articles are not breaking any rules as they are not soliciting. Just some don't like them because they can refute what is being said by them. It's the nature of the beast....

I'm well aware of what is happening as there have been "forces" trying to stop people from refuting what others are saying from time to time... but I do thank you for your thoughts about it though.....All is well..thanks again...:)
 
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I see what you hope to do here.... it happens all the time.

Are you a child of God? Of course you are. But there is no verse telling you that YOU, specifically, are a child of God.
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Could you explain to me what it is I hope to do then? LOL. I thought I was hoping to understand how you can say that and why it feels wrong to me to say it...:)
 
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Your wish is my command.

Matt 18:15 …thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him …
…shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he …
Luke 3:19 But Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother Philip’s …
John 3:20 …neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved .
John 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one …
John 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say …
John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of …
1 Cor 14:24 …in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: …
Eph 5:11 …with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: …
1 Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear. …
2 Tim 4:2 …word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. …
Titus 1:9 …able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.
Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound …
Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise …
Heb 12:5 …thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
James 2:9 …ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. …
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Looks like God points out when we have sinned and corrects us. He teaches us to grow and become more like Him.....if you want to replace convict with a more PC version it's your choice, but recognize that others may not chose to be PC about it and that should be ok too.


One problem I have with what I read of the articles posted Grace is that people should not rebuke or chastens others when they see them sin or wrong doing....for example bullying.
 
Willie-T

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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
The Spirit himself confirms to our spirit that we are children of God, Romans 8:16
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But was that spoken directly to YOU? No, it was not. Just as the verse I cite, 2 Cor 5:21 was not written directly to me.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Everyone posts articles and videos from all over the place. These articles are not breaking any rules as they are not soliciting. Just some don't like them because they can refute what is being said by them. It's the nature of the beast....

I'm well aware of what is happening as there have been "forces" trying to stop people from refuting what others are saying from time to time... but I do thank you for your thoughts about it though.....All is well..thanks again...:)
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Personally, I don't like it because it's unending spamming. It's just the same things over and over and over again every day for the past 6 months. And they're not your ideas - they're someone elses.
 
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I believe there ARE verses telling me I am a child of God. I don't know if I could ever quite believe them if not for the witness of the Spirit in me that it is true...:)
 
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But, you are not keeping it simple. If God remembers your lawless deeds no more, how are you "convicted" of them? You are reminded that what you may have just done an hour ago is not who you are, nor what the Father wants for you, but you are not put down or guilt-laden or shamed about your short fall. You are (or at least, I am) reminded that our Father will help us do better.
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If your child hits his sister what do you do?

Say it's okay you are my beloved son?

What about the girl who was hit?
 
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But was that spoken directly to YOU? No, it was not. Just as the verse I cite, was not written directly to me.
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Well if you're going to be honest, then you need to show where it says WE are the righteousness of GOD. 2 Cor 5:21 does not say that.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Looks like God points out when we have sinned and corrects us. He teaches us to grow and become more like Him.....if you want to replace convict with a more PC version it's your choice, but recognize that others may not chose to be PC about it and that should be ok too.


One problem I have with what I read of the articles posted Grace is that people should not rebuke or chastens others when they see them sin or wrong doing....for example bullying.
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You seem to have it exactly right. But, I still suggest doing a study on how various translators have seen the word that got written "convict", saw it.

And HOW are we told to guide others back into the fold?
 
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Willie T I am so confused by what you are trying to communicate.

I apologize, blame it on my simplemindedness...

Could you simplify your message for me because I stare and I pray and I still don't get what you are trying to say.
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Personally, I don't like it because it's unending spamming. It's just the same things over and over and over again every day for the past 6 months. And they're not your ideas - they're someone elses.
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I think people know why you don't like them because they do often refute your beliefs and it bothers you and I do understand how that can be troubling.

It's ok....just don't look at them and ignore them. It's really no problem. They are really not for you as you well know but for those viewers that are interested in them as they have a grace-based view of different subjects. As I say - many have PM-ed me to thank me for them so they are helping others.
 
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You seem to have it exactly right. But, I still suggest doing a study on how various translators have seen the word that got written "convict", saw it.

And HOW are we told to guide others back into the fold?
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Oh I figured it out...lol

Nah I will eventually get to reading the Bible in the original languages, just not enough time with 2 kids.

We can discuss 2nd part...because I think it would be edifying.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Willie T I am so confused by what you are trying to communicate.

I apologize, blame it on my simplemindedness...

Could you simplify your message for me because I stare and I pray and I still don't get what you are trying to say.
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Give me a specific question.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Looks like God points out when we have sinned and corrects us. He teaches us to grow and become more like Him.....if you want to replace convict with a more PC version it's your choice, but recognize that others may not chose to be PC about it and that should be ok too.


One problem I have with what I read of the articles posted Grace is that people should not rebuke or chastens others when they see them sin or wrong doing....for example bullying.
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Ah yes, bullying - So also the tongue is a small member [of the body] and boasts great [things]. Behold how small an ember sets ablaze how great a forest!
 
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And willie? Please don't think that because I am not able to say it that I hate you, think you are evil, or have anything but loving intentions. I KNOW you are my brother and I am grateful that you are.

And please forgive me if having a conversation with me is confusing because I have someone on ignore.
 
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Grace777x70 said:

I think people know why you don't like them because they do often refute your beliefs and it bothers you and I do understand how that can be troubling.

It's ok....just don't look at them and ignore them. It's really no problem. They are really not for you as you well know but for those viewers that are interested in them as they have a grace-based view of different subjects. As I say - many have PM-ed me to thank me for them so they are helping others.
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No they don't. Let them come speak for themselves and I will take care of it. It's a great vexation for you to post what they believe and they are not here to answer for it, and you hide behind their words.
 
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Let's not go there He Rose....still upset that we weren't reconciled and she left angry but trusting God to take care of it.
 
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Willie-T said:
You seem to have it exactly right. But, I still suggest doing a study on how various translators have seen the word that got written "convict", saw it.

And HOW are we told to guide others back into the fold?
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Ariel82 said:
No clue what you mean by the 1st part and hoping we can dicuss 2nd.
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I think you understand the whole concept of The Holy Spirit convicting (hang-dog sorrow) unbelievers. But, it should be obvious that you are not shamed by God when you do wrong (sin), but are shown your error, and are lovingly guided into doing right.
 
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Ariel82 said:
Willie T I am so confused by what you are trying to communicate.

I apologize, blame it on my simplemindedness...

Could you simplify your message for me because I stare and I pray and I still don't get what you are trying to say.
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I am confused but trying to understand too. I wanted to ask if someone could...put it in their own words, maybe try a different way of explaining to get it through my gray matter.
 
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