The Law Debacle Resolved

[ember]

Over the line. I am reporting this slanderous liable that you have mentioned twice now just because I quoted Acts 24:14.

I have a good lawyer.

would you like his name?

oh wait....he needs proof though

don't you know we are not to take other believers to court? yet you even have a thread started wherein you make the false claim that people are stalking you

I guess you view that in reverse too?

cause if you don't, gonna have to haul out the word that starts with an 'h' even though I really am trying to see Christ in those who declare they believe in Him!

moral of the story: don't be what you accuse others of being

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Romans 12:3

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I have a good lawyer.

would you like his name?

oh wait....he needs proof though

don't you know we are not to take other believers to court? yet you even have a thread started wherein you make the false claim that people are stalking you

I guess you view that in reverse too?

cause if you don't, gonna have to haul out the word that starts with an 'h' even though I really am trying to see Christ in those who declare they believe in Him!

moral of the story: don't be what you accuse others of being

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. Romans 12:3

Thats what happens with people bound by the law. They do not like being confronted. It forces them to realize they are not what they claim to be.

it is one of the other signs of legalism.

 

[ember]

Thats what happens with people bound by the law. They do not like being confronted. It forces them to realize they are not what they claim to be.

it is one of the other signs of legalism.

I mean I report what I believe are posts that violate the TOS...but the use of the word 'libel' (with no 'a' please) is a step in the direction of the courts

1If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

4Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? 5I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

7The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[SUP]a[/SUP] 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
I Corinthians 6

I'll say it again. We are believers here.

My doctrine is better than your doctrine does not create an unbeliever

But let it be known, I believe that Jesus has finished the work for me and I in return, now allow His Spirit to do good works through me

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I mean I report what I believe are posts that violate the TOS...but the use of the word 'libel' (with no 'a' please) is a step in the direction of the courts

1If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

4Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? 5I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

7The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[SUP]a[/SUP] 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
I Corinthians 6

I'll say it again. We are believers here.

My doctrine is better than your doctrine does not create an unbeliever

But let it be known, I believe that Jesus has finished the work for me and I in return, now allow His Spirit to do good works through me

I would usually send an IM before I reported anything, but yeah I can see what you mean.

Either way, The post he said I slandared him, the slanderous remark was not even there (he did not even mention acts)

And again, He and his wife have been called false accusers (you could say slanderers) because we do not take acts 24: 14 as truth..

So again, It is ok for them to slander us, but not ok for us to confront them..

Again, a hypocrite..

I hate using names (I removed pharisee and legalist as a term to call them thanks to your pharisee thread) but a stone is a stone, why call it anything else.?

 

[JaumeJ]

You really must think real hard about what you are purporting.

Do you disagree with that statement? "That everything in the bible is true, but not everything that is true is in the bible".

 

[Sirk]

You really must think real hard about what you are purporting.

I asked you if you believe that to be untrue or true. Not a tough question. "Everything in the bible is true, but not everything that is true is in the bible."

Is it a true or false statement?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I asked you if you believe that to be untrue or true. Not a tough question. "Everything in the bible is true, but not everything that is true is in the bible."

Is it a true or false statement?

[SUP]25 [/SUP]And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe the Word, from Genesis through the amen finalizing Revelation.

All truth is from God. The actual reality for a believer, that is eternal truth, consists of thigs not seen, as is written.

If you believe some truth is NOT in the Word, it is only because you believe facts ae equated with eternal truth. this is a very sad state for any soul.

The following are facts:
The big ban or boom theory, also known as the expanding universe theory.

The dynamic encounter theory on how the planets were formed.

The theory of coelescing gases forming the planets.

Continental drift.

Plate tectonics.

The geoogical time scale or the geological column.

Vertical intruduction of new viruses.

Eugeosyncline development of mountains ,volcanic activity and other orogenic events

Evolution of the speicies.

etc.

When this age which is allied to decay passes, we will be in eternity where all is allied to life.

All those facts that man calls truth in this age will burn in the fire next time..


If you wish to put someone on trial, become a judge of men.
All of this thought, belief and understanding may be found in the Word of God. God is Truth.

I asked you if you believe that to be untrue or true. Not a tough question. "Everything in the bible is true, but not everything that is true is in the bible."

Is it a true or false statement?

 

[Sirk]

I believe the Word, from Genesis through the amen finalizing Revelation.

All truth is from God. The actual reality for a believer, that is eternal truth, consists of thigs not seen, as is written.

If you believe some truth is NOT in the Word, it is only because you believe facts ae equated with eternal truth. this is a very sad state for any soul.

The following are facts:
The big ban or boom theory, also known as the expanding universe theory.

The dynamic encounter theory on how the planets were formed.

The theory of coelescing gases forming the planets.

Continental drift.

Plate tectonics.

The geoogical time scale or the geological column.

Vertical intruduction of new viruses.

Eugeosyncline development of mountains ,volcanic activity and other orogenic events

Evolution of the speicies.

etc.

When this age which is allied to decay passes, we will be in eternity where all is allied to life.

All those facts that man calls truth in this age will burn in the fire next time..


If you wish to put someone on trial, become a judge of men.
All of this thought, belief and understanding may be found in the Word of God. God is Truth.

You'd make a good politician. I'm not putting you on trial here. I just asked a question that I still didn't get an answer to. Lol

 

[DP]

The law is for those walking according to the flesh, walking by sight and not by the faith of Jesus Christ. Those who are walking in the law of the spirit of Jesus Christ are literally being led by the Holy Spirit. So they don't need to try to focus on keeping any law, for the Lord is that law within them who is keeping them. They are free to live in the liberty and fellowship of Jesus Christ Himself.

You can only understand that truth in the spirit, that is not worldly or intellectual wisdom.

Finally, someone who understands!!!

Just like Apostle Paul said in 1 Tim.1, the law was not made for the righteous man, but for "the lawless and disobedient."

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Finally, someone who understands!!!

Just like Apostle Paul said in 1 Tim.1, the law was not made for the righteous man, but for "the lawless and disobedient."

yep

It was not made for a born again child of God.

it was made for the sinner (unbeliever.)

 

[ember]

I would usually send an IM before I reported anything, but yeah I can see what you mean.

Either way, The post he said I slandared him, the slanderous remark was not even there (he did not even mention acts)

And again, He and his wife have been called false accusers (you could say slanderers) because we do not take acts 24: 14 as truth..

So again, It is ok for them to slander us, but not ok for us to confront them..

Again, a hypocrite..

I hate using names (I removed pharisee and legalist as a term to call them thanks to your pharisee thread) but a stone is a stone, why call it anything else.?

well at least neither side has said

'ye are of your father the devil'

in this thread that I am aware of

I think that might be called black humor Christian style

 

[Least]

[SUP]25 [/SUP]And there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written. Amen.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

I've met a few people over the years that have attempted to use that verse as an excuse to not study the scriptures. I Personally see it as a confirmation that God hasn't changed and doesn't change. The same thing has been expressed throughout scripture. I'd still say that there's nothing that God would do that doesn't line up with His word.

Psalms 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

Job 26:14 Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?

Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
Hebrews 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

I believe that God does reveal more to us, but it's always tied to His word. He doesn't change.If you don't mind my asking, what do you believe that He would do outside of His word? I ask that of both you and Skirk?

 

[ember]

skirk........

well speak up skirk

didn't loose my sense of humor yet

 

[eternally-gratefull]

well at least neither side has said

'ye are of your father the devil'

in this thread that I am aware of

I think that might be called black humor Christian style

true, I have not been called that in here yet.. thank goodness..lol

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

I've met a few people over the years that have attempted to use that verse as an excuse to not study the scriptures. I Personally see it as a confirmation that God hasn't changed and doesn't change. The same thing has been expressed throughout scripture. I'd still say that there's nothing that God would do that doesn't line up with His word.

Psalms 40:5 Many, O LORD my God, are thy wonderful works which thou hast done, and thy thoughts which are to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order unto thee: if I would declare and speak of them, they are more than can be numbered.

Job 26:14 Lo, these are parts of his ways: but how little a portion is heard of him? but the thunder of his power who can understand?

Hebrews 11:32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets:
Hebrews 11:33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions.

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

I believe that God does reveal more to us, but it's always tied to His word. He doesn't change.If you don't mind my asking, what do you believe that He would do outside of His word? I ask that of both you and Skirk?

rolls eyes.

He said there are truths that are not in scripture. I showed he was right..

I was not saying we should not use scripture in all areas.. Nor have I seen him say this.. So you are making a judgment against something that as of yet NO ONE HAS SAID..

 

[Least]

rolls eyes.

He said there are truths that are not in scripture. I showed he was right..

I was not saying we should not use scripture in all areas.. Nor have I seen him say this.. So you are making a judgment against something that as of yet NO ONE HAS SAID..

I'm happy that you got an eye-roll out of it. It was a legitimate question. But I guess that you and Ember are the only ones allowed to ask questions. Maybe if I ask in a similar tone as you and Ember, (harassing and sarcastic,) then maybe you'll answer....I don't know...

 

[Least]

I'm happy that you got an eye-roll out of it. It was a legitimate question. But I guess that you and Ember are the only ones allowed to ask questions. Maybe if I ask in a similar tone as you and Ember, (harassing and sarcastic,) then maybe you'll answer....I don't know...

By the way, you still haven't answered my question....

 

[JaumeJ]

It is not made for the Righteous Man for He is conformed to the law. Are you conformed to the law? I will spend my lifetime doing my best to conform to the righteousness of the law, knowing all the while I will not be truly conformed until the day the work god began in me is completed. Thus I conform as I am able while living in grace. I confess my transgressions (of the law) and because of faith in Jesus Christ, I know my guilt is not held against me......

Finally, someone who understands!!!

Just like Apostle Paul said in 1 Tim.1, the law was not made for the righteous man, but for "the lawless and disobedient."

 

[Sirk]

skirk........

well speak up skirk

didn't loose my sense of humor yet

Haha......It seemed like a purposeful thing.

I simply stated that everything in the bible is true but not everything that is true is in the bible.
Does the bible contain secret treasure maps to hidden pirate treasures? If it doesn't.... does that mean there is no such thing as hidden pirate treasure? Lol