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Are there any honest dispensationalist in here that will admit that it's impossible for the 70th week of Daniel to occur after Jerusalem and the temple have been destroyed?
 

VCO

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I didn't expect that you would admit that you were wrong.

No, it is your theology, that is twisted. We will see, soon and very soon, Probably. I am totally convinced that anyone who thinks he has to go through the Great Tribulation gets his wish. We only get to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, if we are those who are Waiting and Watching for our Bridegroom.
 
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No, it is your theology, that is twisted. We will see, soon and very soon, Probably. I am totally convinced that anyone who thinks he has to go through the Great Tribulation gets his wish. We only get to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, if we are those who are Waiting and Watching for our Bridegroom.
So is your statement below true or not?

Daniel 9:26-27 (HCSB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]After those 62 weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the coming prince will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come with a flood, and until the end there will be war;desolations are decreed.{<- ALL OF THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE 69TH & 70TH WEEK.}
[SUP]27 [/SUP]{HERE IS THE START OF THE 70TH WEEK ->} He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”
 

VCO

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Are there any honest dispensationalist in here that will admit that it's impossible for the 70th week of Daniel to occur after Jerusalem and the temple have been destroyed?
No, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the Rapture to happen after the Antichrist Orchestrates the Peace Treaty Covenant with Israel, because those days are NUMBERED, and anyone can figure out what day is Mid-Trib; and what day is the last Day of that Seven Year period. Leaving PreTrib, as the ONLY OPTION.


Matthew 25:13 (NCV)

[SUP]13 [/SUP] “So always be ready, because you don’t know the day or the hour the Son of Man will come.



 

VCO

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So is your statement below true or not?

Daniel 9:26-27 (HCSB)
[SUP]26 [/SUP]After those 62 weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the coming prince will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come with a flood, and until the end there will be war;desolations are decreed.{<- ALL OF THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN THE 69TH & 70TH WEEK.}
[SUP]27 [/SUP]{HERE IS THE START OF THE 70TH WEEK ->} He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”


Sorry, you just earned a place on my Ignore List.
 
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Repent therefore and turn again that your sins may be blotted out that times of refreshing
may come from the presence of the Lord and that he may send the Christ appointed for you
Jesus whom heaven must receive until the time of establishing all that God spoke of by the

mouth of his Holy Prophets from of old

Acts 3:19

From this we see that Christ had to remain in Heaven until everything God spoke about
through the Prophets was established. This must include the events of the Tribulation
because God spoke about it through the Prophets and through Jesus himself.

Jesus said immediately after the tribulation the Son of man will come in power and great
glory. Matt24:30

Apart from his first coming how many times does it say that Christ will leave heaven before
everything spoken by God through the Prophets is established? The answer is once. If its once
how come Pre Tribbers expect him to leave heaven twice, once to collect them and a second time to
bring them back?
That would be three times counting the first coming down out of the clouds clothing himself with corruptible flesh typified as sinful. Those who look to the thousands years in that parable as a unknown number… that makes up the phrase last days in Revelation 20 say once.(or at least today)

My two cents as to how I see that today. Christ the anointing, teacher, comforter and guide as the authority or power of the Holy Spirit , only promised to come once in the flesh..

It is finished the promised demonstration of the invisible work of pouring out His Spirit as if it was blood has come to a end .He is the lamb of God slain for the sins of his children from the very foundation of the world . There is no other demonstration as an encore promised.

.God is not a man as us .and neither is there any fleshly infallible umpire here on earth to judge between God and man .(Job 9:32-33)

God as Eternal Supernatural Spirit remains without mother or father beginning of days or end of Spirit life .

I would suggest it is God with us and not God is one of us.(Emanuel)

2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

No mention of coming again in the flesh . I would think the message he did leave still applies.

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more
 
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Wow! You guys get sensitive when you're called out on saying something that's not true lol.
 

VCO

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dont play dumb mon.......... gospel writers were jews what are u talking about Jesus was a jew and all apostles
Frustrating, isn't it.

They persecuted and spoke evil of our Master, and we are not greater than our Master.
 
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Are there any honest dispensationalist in here that will admit that it's impossible for the 70th week of Daniel to occur after Jerusalem and the temple have been destroyed?
why is it impossible???
 
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heartofdavid

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This is what dispensationalists do... it doesn't matter what the bible says. I'm sticking with my story no matter what the bible says lol. The scary thing is that you guys are preaching a false message and possibly leading weaker Christians astray and you don't even care.
Well,you are correct about one thing.

The number ten in the virgin parable does mean something.

It means ONLY 10 out of millions were watching and waiting. Even the foolish were waiting.
But according to you they were liars.

Any doctrine that makes the last words of the bible a doctrine of lies really ought to wake you up,but no,you just plow "forward"

" the spirit and the bride say come....even so,come Lord Jesus"

That is my doctrine,the one you call a lie
 
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heartofdavid

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Frustrating, isn't it.

They persecuted and spoke evil of our Master, and we are not greater than our Master.
Yes very true.

To me,I am appalled that they misplace the throne of David. That throne,along with the bride,is the pinnacle of end times. That throne,and Jesus occupying it.

I believe that dynamic is screaming at them,for to deface that picture is not just error,it is insane
 
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heartofdavid

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Did we ever get a post trib rapture verse??

Still waiting....
 

RickyZ

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Wow! You guys get sensitive when you're called out on saying something that's not true lol.
Just because you think something is not true, that doesn't make it not true. According to your understanding it's not true. But in reality we won't know for sure until it all comes to pass. Which it hasn't
 
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Just because you think something is not true, that doesn't make it not true. According to your understanding it's not true. But in reality we won't know for sure until it all comes to pass. Which it hasn't
I made an argument that was proven wrong, I fessed up. I only admitted that it's NOT impossible. I still think the idea is asinine.
 
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That's what I get for trying to read a non-kjv bible... it makes no sense.