The Rapture
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Well I think there are multiple applications for some of these things. Its true that the Disciples experienced the persecution Jesus spoke of and there were false Prophets in their day. Jesus was I believe discussing what was to happen in their lifetime and looking ahead to the future and the period leading up to his second coming which could happen in our lifetimes. I am not a Preterist because many of the events that are to take place didnt happen in the first Century and you have to be extremely creative to believe they did. The Pre Trib Dispensationalist is the main false teaching now. This is being spread in every way possible by well known Preachers. Anyone who doubts that should ask themselves if these people are not false Prophets then who are? Who else has the exposure in the Media and the Publishing world as great or greater than them?
I agree, and those things could be the persecusion of the church over the last 2000 years. But I don't know why there would need to be dual fulfillment for this... Christ brought the kingdom of heaven to earth when he came the first time so I don't see anything needing to happen in the future other than Christ physically coming to the earth, resurrecting the new testament saints, changing those that will be alive at the time of his coming and reigning for a thousand years.
The law had a limited lifespan, and the Prophets came with a particular message at a particular time, over the lifetime of the Law.
John was Elijah the prophet, so Jesus is saying that John is the Prophet of the Moment, and the Law and its Prophets are no longer relevant.
John's message was repent and be baptized into the Kingdom Of Heaven.
John was Elijah the prophet, so Jesus is saying that John is the Prophet of the Moment, and the Law and its Prophets are no longer relevant.
John's message was repent and be baptized into the Kingdom Of Heaven.
That's why I'm asking him about Acts 2 and where one ends and begins because of what Jesus says in Matthew 5:18 and Luke 24:44 so either everything has to be fulfilled(for the new to begin) or else it has not and the law and the old testament prophecies are still unfolding. So which is also why the difference in opinions as to what all is fulfilled verses things still needing fulfilment(notice everyone's opinion on it is different).
That is EASY, but I doubt if you can believe that GOD is 100% true to HIS WORD.
Ezekiel 39:27-29 (KJV)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
[SUP]28 [/SUP] Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there. {So the work is still on going.}
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.
Now, if you want to help fianancially support an organization that is doing that work, I will give you their address.
NO?
Still playing games, I see. Unwilling to give up your false teaching opinions that you are gentile spiritual Iraelite. GO ahead, continue denying that GOD IS STILL WORKING TO SAVE ALL OF THE GENUINE BELIEVERS, WHO ARE REAL BLOODLINE DESCENDENTS OF ISRAEL, who have their names written in the Book of Life, before this Earth was formed. Go on, continue in that plane load of false beliefs that GOD is finished with Israel, and you will see that plane is doomed to go down in flames.
2 Kings 2:14 KJV
And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the Lord God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.
Elisha took the mantle from Elijah. Elijah was the earthly kingdom of God, Elisha was the spiritual kingdom of God.
John the baptist was the earthly kingdom but the spirit of Elijah in John was the spiritual kingdom... if that makes senses. This is a study of itself, thanks for your post bringing that to my attention.
And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said, Where is the Lord God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over.
Elisha took the mantle from Elijah. Elijah was the earthly kingdom of God, Elisha was the spiritual kingdom of God.
John the baptist was the earthly kingdom but the spirit of Elijah in John was the spiritual kingdom... if that makes senses. This is a study of itself, thanks for your post bringing that to my attention.
What most Christians of today do not know, is that the word "Prophesying" at the time of Christ, the Primary meaning was "to proclaim the WORD OF GOD without Error." The word Prophesying did not take on the primary meaning "to foretell the future" until the Dark Ages. Future Prohecy in the Bible back then was as considered as absolutely sure of happening as if it had ALREADY HAPPENED. That spiritual gift of prophesying was a MUCH MORE IMPORTANT GIFT back then in the Early Church, because almost no one had personal Bibles back then, because those Bibles were WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for an individual to own. If you wanted to look something up, you had to go down to the Church and stand there at the pulpit for hours reading (most of those Pulpit Bibles were chained to the Pulpit, because of their extreme value), and also because in those early days, there also were NO CONCORDANCES.
I have experienced the true gift of Prophesying one time in my life. I never was much good at memorizing Scripture, thus I am extremely thankful for my Computer Bibles. However, one day a couple years before I bought my first computer; a couple of Mormon Missionaries on their Bicycles, cornered me in my driveway. They started in on me with their memorized propaganda efforts of convincing me their religion was the only true religion. What happened next amazed me, but was not totally unexpected, because I have always totally Trusted that Jesus CAN give me the ability to do what I cannot. Every time they told me something that Joseph Smith taught that was purely ERROR, the appropriate verse would pop into my head, and I was able to quote the Book, Chapter, and Verse numbers, and quote the Verse perfectly. That is the Gift of Prophesying, and I absolutely believe the HOLY SPIRIT gave me every verse I needed that day.
So after about a dozen times my saying, "Yeah, but that contradicts, this verse:" and quoting it perfectly; one of those two Mormons said, "I don't see why that matters, the Bible is full of Contradictions." I replied, "Maybe your Bible is, but my Bible has NO CONTRADICTIONS." I went on to say, "I only see one thing wrong with believing what Joseph Smith taught, if you die believing it, you are going to hell." WOW, that is the quickest way to get them out of your Driveway, that I ever saw. One was gone in an instant, waiting on his buddy a half block away, while the other rode his bicycle round and round me, screaming "I can't believe you are pronouncing us to Hell." over and over several times. They then went straight to Post Office and tried to get my Mormon Post Master to fire me. He said he couldn't do that (my supervisor was in the Office too), so my Post Master called the Prison and tried to get me fired from my Volunteer Chaplain position. The Head Prison Chaplain thought their efforts were hilarious.
I have experienced the true gift of Prophesying one time in my life. I never was much good at memorizing Scripture, thus I am extremely thankful for my Computer Bibles. However, one day a couple years before I bought my first computer; a couple of Mormon Missionaries on their Bicycles, cornered me in my driveway. They started in on me with their memorized propaganda efforts of convincing me their religion was the only true religion. What happened next amazed me, but was not totally unexpected, because I have always totally Trusted that Jesus CAN give me the ability to do what I cannot. Every time they told me something that Joseph Smith taught that was purely ERROR, the appropriate verse would pop into my head, and I was able to quote the Book, Chapter, and Verse numbers, and quote the Verse perfectly. That is the Gift of Prophesying, and I absolutely believe the HOLY SPIRIT gave me every verse I needed that day.
So after about a dozen times my saying, "Yeah, but that contradicts, this verse:" and quoting it perfectly; one of those two Mormons said, "I don't see why that matters, the Bible is full of Contradictions." I replied, "Maybe your Bible is, but my Bible has NO CONTRADICTIONS." I went on to say, "I only see one thing wrong with believing what Joseph Smith taught, if you die believing it, you are going to hell." WOW, that is the quickest way to get them out of your Driveway, that I ever saw. One was gone in an instant, waiting on his buddy a half block away, while the other rode his bicycle round and round me, screaming "I can't believe you are pronouncing us to Hell." over and over several times. They then went straight to Post Office and tried to get my Mormon Post Master to fire me. He said he couldn't do that (my supervisor was in the Office too), so my Post Master called the Prison and tried to get me fired from my Volunteer Chaplain position. The Head Prison Chaplain thought their efforts were hilarious.