The Return of Jews to Israel

[zone]

i found this gem from an xtian-zionist site online:

check out the corruption of Genesis 12 (as usual) of God's blessings on Abram to make it about jews/Israel and not about JESUS CHRIST.

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"Genesis 12:2-3 And I will make of thee [Abram] a great nation, [Israel] and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Let's compare the "People of the Book" to Muhammad's followers, in terms of Nobel Prizes, to get a little better understanding of how Jews have indeed been a blessing on "all families of the earth" while Muhammad's followers, on average, have been the exact opposite.

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1.5 billion, or about 25% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics: (zero)

Physics: (zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar

Chemistry:
1999 - Ahmed Hassan Zewail

TOTAL 6 (with half of them for so-called "peace" even including one awarded to the Islamist terrorist Yasar Arafat!)

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000, or about 0.2% (yes that's 2/10 of 1%) of the world's population, yet they compose 22% of all individual recipients of Nobel Prizes worldwide, between 1901 and 2009 including:

Literature: 10
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pa sternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace: 8
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics: 53
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phil lips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Joseph son
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics: 13
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Mil ton Friedman
1978 - Herb ert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine: 43
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herb ert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abra ham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Ed elman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Ed ward B. Lewis

Chemistry: 24
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1972 - William Howard Stein
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Herbert Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1989 - Sidney Altman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1998 - Walter Kohn
2004 - Avram Hershko, Aaron Ciechanover and Irwin Rose
2006 - Roger Kornberg

TOTAL: 151

MODERN ZIONISM < click


the poor ignorant racist who compiled this page apparently doesn't know anything about the Nobel family, the 'Rockefellers of Russia'

funny how people like to give themselves awards - engage America in 7 illegal wars and get the Nobel Peace prize. cooooool.

WAR IS PEACE.

i wonder if the author of this rank racist page knows anything about Algebra

what? IRAN? serious?

 

[cfultz3]

Yet, all the while God made an everlasting covenant with the Jews. Such hate for those who God beloves. One must really question who is the thorn.

 

[wdeaton65]

Some body explain what makes someone a jew this should be funny!!!!! If any of you think you would have walked into the dinner Joseph had with his brothers and said the jews are here they all would of looked at you and said yah Judah is over there by Levi!!!!!! So all these people over in israel are from Judah He was a busy guy LOL.

 

[Drett]

i found this gem from an xtian-zionist site online:

check out the corruption of Genesis 12 (as usual) of God's blessings on Abram to make it about jews/Israel and not about JESUS CHRIST.

.....


"Genesis 12:2-3 And I will make of thee [Abram] a great nation, [Israel] and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: 3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Let's compare the "People of the Book" to Muhammad's followers, in terms of Nobel Prizes, to get a little better understanding of how Jews have indeed been a blessing on "all families of the earth" while Muhammad's followers, on average, have been the exact opposite.

Some people don't like to let the truth get in the way of making a point.

 

[zone]

Yet, all the while God made an everlasting covenant with the Jews. Such hate for those who God beloves. One must really question who is the thorn.

i am a jew.
the everlasting covenant is everlasting life - Jesus.
sorry you don't know that.
sorry you're willing to overlook all the crime and murder and stuff.

 

[zone]

Some body explain what makes someone a jew this should be funny!!!!! If any of you think you would have walked into the dinner Joseph had with his brothers and said the jews are here they all would of looked at you and said yah Judah is over there by Levi!!!!!! So all these people over in israel are from Judah He was a busy guy LOL.

 

[zone]

Some people don't like to let the truth get in the way of making a point.

can't let the truth get in the way of war-prep dehumanizing.

 

[zone]

Some people don't like to let the truth get in the way of making a point.

this is most certainly true.

exhibit A: notorious terrorist Adam Pearlman

Adam Yahiye Gadahn (Arabic: آدم يحيى غدن‎, Ādam Yaḥyā Ghadan; born Adam Pearlman; September 1, 1978) is an American who is a senior operative, cultural interpreter, spokesman[2] and media advisor[3] for the Islamist group Al-Qaeda. Since 2004, he appeared in a number of videos produced by Al-Qaeda as "Azzam the American" ('Azzām al-Amrīki, عزام الأمريكي, sometimes transcribed as Ezzam Al-Amerikee). Gadahn converted to Islam in 1995, at the age of 17, at a California mosque and is described as a "homegrown," meaning that he has converted to an ideology so firmly that he is now willing to harm his country of origin.[2] He is believed to have inspired the 2007 Osama bin Laden video.[3]

In 2004, he was added to the FBI Seeking Information – War on Terrorism list.[4] On October 11, 2006 he was removed from that list, and placed on the Bureau of Diplomatic Security Rewards for Justice Program list of wanted criminals.[5] On the same day, Gadahn was indicted based on the testimony of the FBI case agent E.J. Hilbert II, in the Southern Division of the United States District Court for the Central District of California by a federal grand jury for the capital crime of treason for aiding an enemy of the United States (i.e. Al-Qaeda).
wiki


American ADAM 'GADAHN' (Pearlman, Grandson of former ADL leader turned elusive top alCIAduh leader) Jewish al-Qaeda spokesterrorist, tells Muslims in America to carry out deadly one-man terrorist attacks on public figures and major institutions.

central casting!

WILL YOU PLEASE update from the checkered tablecloths you bought from Dominos?
giving them to the fake Saudi fake royals was bad enough.
seriously.
and the 2x4 pine painted TNT sticks with telephone wire attached to nothing just are NOT convincing.
are you guys drinking up there or what?

PEOPLE, PEOPLE! please.

 

[cfultz3]

i am a jew.
the everlasting covenant is everlasting life - Jesus.
sorry you don't know that.
sorry you're willing to overlook all the crime and murder and stuff.

He has certainly made us Gentiles Jews also.
What I won't overlook is God's promise to bring them back to their land.
Sorry you are willing to overlook God being a God of Promise and a Keeper of those Promises.

 

[PeteWaldo]

Some people don't like to let the truth get in the way of making a point.

I Drett, it's past my usual bedtime but I was hoping you could respond to the post I prepared for you that got flushed away. Please take your time. I'm generally on my computer between about 4-5:30 AM EST and will look for it then. Thanks.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/60682-return-jews-israel-11.html#post966935

 

[eternally-gratefull]

He has certainly made us Gentiles Jews also.
What I won't overlook is God's promise to bring them back to their land.
Sorry you are willing to overlook God being a God of Promise and a Keeper of those Promises.

Like I say, if God will not keep his ETERNAL promise to them, nothing will stop him from not keeping it with us.. His promises would mean nothing.. If we can;t trust God, who can we trust?

 

[cfultz3]

Like I say, if God will not keep his ETERNAL promise to them, nothing will stop him from not keeping it with us.. His promises would mean nothing.. If we can;t trust God, who can we trust?

In all honesty, this is what it broils down to. If God cannot be trusted to keep His words in one Covenant, then how can we trust Him in keeping another Covenant? EG, I just do not see how people can set there and imply that God is not a Keeper of promises. It should really make one think before siding with one Luther (link in signature for those who want to see where the hate of the Jews come from).

 

[eternally-gratefull]

In all honesty, this is what it broils down to. If God cannot be trusted to keep His words in one Covenant, then how can we trust Him in keeping another Covenant? EG, I just do not see how people can set there and imply that God is not a Keeper of promises. It should really make one think before siding with one Luther (link in signature for those who want to see where the hate of the Jews come from).

it started around the end of the second century to the third century.. Thats why I find it amazing people say Isreal is not real isreal. they were separated from society, not allowed to do so many things. Everyone knew who they were.. they did not disappear. What hitler did to them prety much is what had happened to them since the third century, only in a far greater scale..

And yes.. Thats why I hate it so much, it states God will not keep his ETERNAL PROMISE.

The mosaic was not an eternal covenant, never was said to be.. But the abrahamic was always to be an eternal covenant.

Christ fulfilled the mosaic.. and thus did away with it. He will still keep his abrahamic.. it is still an ETERNAL covenant.

 

[cfultz3]

it started around the end of the second century to the third century.. Thats why I find it amazing people say Isreal is not real isreal. they were separated from society, not allowed to do so many things. Everyone knew who they were.. they did not disappear. What hitler did to them prety much is what had happened to them since the third century, only in a far greater scale..

And yes.. Thats why I hate it so much, it states God will not keep his ETERNAL PROMISE.

The mosaic was not an eternal covenant, never was said to be.. But the abrahamic was always to be an eternal covenant.

Christ fulfilled the mosaic.. and thus did away with it. He will still keep his abrahamic.. it is still an ETERNAL covenant.

Do you or anyone else know that what Hitler did to the Jews was based on what he learned from Luther in his book :On Jews and Their Lies?

Indeed, those who trust God know that He is not One who would lie.

 

[zone]

Do you or anyone else know that what Hitler did to the Jews was based on what he learned from Luther in his book :On Jews and Their Lies?

Indeed, those who trust God know that He is not One who would lie.

oh here's the hitler, antisemitism and nazis.
we already had two covenants, two gospels.

covering a lot of ground today.

hope you'll visit the coming what does the TALMUD say about Jesus, Christians, and gentiles thread.
i'll watch you defend it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Do you or anyone else know that what Hitler did to the Jews was based on what he learned from Luther in his book :On Jews and Their Lies?

Indeed, those who trust God know that He is not One who would lie.

Yeah I read his thesis, and where Hitler took his thing from..

I was taken aback. But when you look at the history of the roman church and what they did to the jews.. it makes sense. He was a member of that church before he reformed..lol

 

[cfultz3]

oh here's the hitler, antisemitism and nazis.
we already had two covenants, two gospels.

covering a lot of ground today.

hope you'll visit the coming what does the TALMUD say about Jesus, Christians, and gentiles thread.
i'll watch you defend it.

I remember Jesus saying something about the Pharisees and Seduces being wicked and/or children of Satan. But I don't remember Him saying all Jews are children of Satan. Do you? I do however remember that it says Jews are the Father's beloved. I do remember He made an everlasting Covenant with them. I do remember that Jesus will set up His everlasting Kingdom in Jerusalem, the City of the great King. Do you?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I remember Jesus saying something about the Pharisees and Seduces being wicked and/or children of Satan. But I don't remember Him saying all Jews are children of Satan. Do you? I do however remember that it says Jews are the Father's beloved. I do remember He made an everlasting Covenant with them. I do remember that Jesus will set up His everlasting Kingdom in Jerusalem, the City of the great King. Do you?

some people don't get it. They say we believe in dual covenant theology, which is false. because dual covenant believes mosaic and the new will save people (two gospels) not all pre-mils believe this.. some people refuse to accept this. for they would have to admit they have been taught wrong, or are wrong. and that is just to much to ask.

you can not discuss scripture with these people. they will continue to tell you you believe things you do not..

 

[cfultz3]

some people don't get it. They say we believe in dual covenant theology, which is false. because dual covenant believes mosaic and the new will save people (two gospels) not all pre-mils believe this.. some people refuse to accept this. for they would have to admit they have been taught wrong, or are wrong. and that is just to much to ask.

you can not discuss scripture with these people. they will continue to tell you you believe things you do not..

I believe there is ONLY one way to the Father and that is through the Son He sent. People can say that until they are blue in the face, but no one will listen, but will speak damnation.

But what can one do!!!!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I believe there is ONLY one way to the Father and that is through the Son He sent. People can say that until they are blue in the face, but no one will listen, but will speak damnation.

But what can one do!!!!

lol, know you are following Gods word.. and just look over the nonsense.. I had to learn that the hard way myself