The word Allah does not always refer to a false God

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Again the letter kills. You should by definition feel the same way about "God". It's not a name. What is God in Chinese, or any other language?

it is the Spirit that defines it's meaning.
oic. It was God in the flesh (not a spirit), who walked among us in time and space, that shed real blood for our sins that saved us. We would not know this except IT IS WRITTEN.
It took the letter to describe that God is Spirit as well.
 

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Then how does God demonstrate His love for His enemies?
Thru His death in the Person of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins. It is not God's fault if enemies want to stay enemies and not be reconciled.
 
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oic. It was God in the flesh (not a spirit), who walked among us in time and space, that shed real blood for our sins that saved us. We would not know this except IT IS WRITTEN.
It took the letter to describe that God is Spirit as well.
I didn't need a book to tell me I need a savior. And in all cases, hush not a man by his color or outward appearance but by the content of his character or spirit within.
 

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Again the letter kills. You should by definition feel the same way about "God". It's not a name. What is God in Chinese, or any other language?

it is the Spirit that defines it's meaning.
Fluffy headed nothingness.

God is Who He said He is. IAM that IAM. Was His answer to Moses.

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Thru His death in the Person of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins. It is not God's fault if enemies want to stay enemies and not be reconciled.
No man can take from what is in God's hands, correct? Why believe that someone can remove themselves?
 

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I didn't need a book to tell me I need a savior. And in all cases, hush not a man by his color or outward appearance but by the content of his character or spirit within.
Who is hushing anyone. If anything you are hushing Scripture by your hyper-spiritualism.
 
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Fluffy headed nothingness.

God is Who He said He is. IAM that IAM. Was His answer to Moses.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I am what I am. You are what you are. They are what they are.

1 Corinthians 15:10

But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
 
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Who is hushing anyone. If anything you are hushing Scripture by your hyper-spiritualism.
I'm not hushing scripture. It is that which helped me understand what was already in me. I don't need a book to tell me to do good in order to do it. But it did help me to understand that it is His voice that I've always heard in doing the good that was in me from the beginning.
 

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I'm not hushing scripture. It is that which helped me understand what was already in me. I don't need a book to tell me to do good in order to do it. But it did help me to understand that it is His voice that I've always heard in doing the good that was in me from the beginning.
Float if you wish, but 'that Book' tells us to continue in the doctrine. ..I'm through here.

Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
 
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Float if you wish, but 'that Book' tells us to continue in the doctrine. ..I'm through here.

Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

1 Timothy 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
The true church sold their possessions and made all things common. I am afraid we have strayed very far away from that doctrine to the point when I say getting rid of money will end evil and we fight to work by the sweat of our brow.
 
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to GodIsSalvation, This is my point, To Kenkappel, please quote the old and new Arabic translations of the Hebrew and Greek Testaments of the reaL Bible. The Jewish Bible. Salvation is of the Jews and of No Gentiles nation. love Hoffco
“Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too” (Romans 3:29). Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, but He had come to offer salvation to everybody. The Messiah was to be a “light for the Gentiles” (Isaiah 42:6). So call on Jesus, because “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved” (Acts 2:21).
 

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I am what I am. You are what you are. They are what they are.

1 Corinthians 15:10

But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
I am what Christ has made me. 2 Corinthians 5:21

I know who God is and He is not Allah. Not in any language nor by any reasonable definition.

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I am what Christ has made me. 2 Corinthians 5:21

I know who God is and He is not Allah. Not in any language nor by any reasonable definition.

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lol! Who is Allah? Another god? If there is but one God, then the only one giving another any power is you. You believe there is another.
 
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Lol ummm....Isn't "Allah" a name/title like "God"? Like isn't the word "Allah" just "God" in Arabic?:rolleyes: If not, then how do you say "God" in Arabic?
 

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Lol ummm....Isn't "Allah" a name/title like "God"? Like isn't the word "Allah" just "God" in Arabic?:rolleyes: If not, then how do you say "God" in Arabic?
Only difference , for the christian arab, Allah has a Son, for the muslim arab, Allah does not have a Son.
Will the real Allah please stand up? lol
 

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I have offered what I have offered so you can know who you are wrapping your arms around when you embrace Allah. What I believe is not what the Arabs believe. The children of Ishmael claim a birthright that is not theirs.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Being an Arab does not automatically make a person a Muslim who follows the false God of Islam even though they are descendants of Ishmael. The God of the Bible is the God of all humanity, Arabs included, and there are many Arab Chirstians who do not believe in the God of Islam but instead are believers in Jesus Christ! The Bible says that none should perish but that all should come to repentance. It does not say all, except for Arabs! You do realize that there are many millions of non Arab Muslims world wide such as those from Indonesia, the Phillipenes, and the former Soviet republics so being a Muslim who follows a false belief is not an ethnic group but instead it is a religion. Another thing, at the end of the ages Egypt, who are Arabs, and Assyria will be standing with Israel in faith of the true God of the universe. So God does have a place in His heart for all people, Arabs included, who come to faith in Him. I have a slow older computer but do a search on Egypt, Assyria, and Israel in Bible prophecy to find the references to this.
 

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The name of Allah was given by God thru Mohammad to lead the Muslims to stop seeking revenge, which is the cause of their major problems today. the original meaning of the name, (all of God's names have meanings) is satisfaction to drink here. meaning that god is in charge of all revenge, as you do, I will do to you, which is the dark side of do unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. After Mohammad's death, he Mullahs who took over the faith were not prophets who knew God, so they used the organization that Mohammad had put together to achieve their evil ends Mohammad told his followers to read and study the Bible, which in the Qur'an is called the "book" which is what "Bible" means. Those leaders created the Qur'an, which does contain some of Mohammad's words, but was corrupted by those who followed him, especially during the time of the Crusades.
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The same thing happens among Anglo Christians and Mormons. Both use the word 'God' but each has different meanings in mind.
So the Arab christian may say 'Allah' but it would mean a totally different person than if an Arab muslim used the term.
Exactly! So just because Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses use the word God when referring to their false God does not mean English speaking Christians should use another word for the true God.
 

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The name of Allah was given by God thru Mohammad to lead the Muslims to stop seeking revenge, which is the cause of their major problems today. the original meaning of the name, (all of God's names have meanings) is satisfaction to drink here. meaning that god is in charge of all revenge, as you do, I will do to you, which is the dark side of do unto others as you would have them do unto you, which is a recurring theme throughout the Bible. After Mohammad's death, he Mullahs who took over the faith were not prophets who knew God, so they used the organization that Mohammad had put together to achieve their evil ends Mohammad told his followers to read and study the Bible, which in the Qur'an is called the "book" which is what "Bible" means. Those leaders created the Qur'an, which does contain some of Mohammad's words, but was corrupted by those who followed him, especially during the time of the Crusades.
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But the use of the word Allah predates Islam as Arabs used this word as Jews and Christians hundreds of years before Muhammad was even born and the false religion we know as Islam even existed. Notice that in verse Acts 2:11 below, about the Day of Pentecost, Arabs were among the devout Jews who heard the wonderful works of God. So if they called God by the word Allah in their own language, long before the advent of Islam, they would not have been talking about the false God of Islam.

[h=1]Acts 2:1-11New King James Version (NKJV)[/h][h=3][/h]1 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[SUP][a][/SUP] in one place. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
[h=3][/h][SUP]5 [/SUP]And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? [SUP]8 [/SUP]And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, [SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, [SUP]11 [/SUP]Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.”