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How broad is your view of those who are eternally saved? Mal 3:16, Then they that feared the Lord spak often one to another, and the Lord hearkened and heard it, and a book of rememberance (book of life) was written before him for them that feard the Lord, and that thought upon his name. Those of God's children who do not understand the truth do think upon his name, and they are many. God's elect are the offspring of Jacob and in Gen 32:12, God said he would make his seed as the sand of the sea, that cannot be numbered for multitude. Matt 20:16, For many be called, but few chosen. The many called are the elect of God wo do not understand the truth and the few chosen are those who have been revealed the truth. All who are called are of the elect according to Rom 8:30, Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called, and whom he called, them he also justified, and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Matt 7:13-14, Both gates are representing the called and the chosen. The called go in the wide gate (destruction, meaning not in full fellowship with God) and the chosen (those who have been revealed the truth) go in the strait gate. The life at the end of the narrow way is not eternal life, but the abundant life we have in knowing the truth.
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the goats would be those people that Isaiah is not addressing. the "we" is not the entire world but those who are God's sheep.
the context and the people spoken to makes a big difference.
example
Ezekiel 4
12 And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of human waste in their sight.”
is the YOU referring to YOU?
if so...
bon apetit.
the context and the people spoken to makes a big difference.
example
Ezekiel 4
12 And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of human waste in their sight.”
is the YOU referring to YOU?
if so...
bon apetit.
Ja, ek stem heeltamal saam met jou, maar, waar het ek gese dat ons gered of geregtig is met werke?
Just translating what you said into my native
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.
Romans 3:28
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
Romans 4:2
If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about - but not before God.
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. [/FONT]
i would say works (obeying the commandments) is the result of faith.
Peace.
Just translating what you said into my native
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.
Romans 3:28
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
Romans 4:2
If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about - but not before God.
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. [/FONT]
i would say works (obeying the commandments) is the result of faith.
Peace.
Ja, ek stem heeltamal saam met jou, maar, waar het ek gese dat ons gered of geregtig is met werke?
Just translating what you said into my native
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.
Romans 3:28
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
Romans 4:2
If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about - but not before God.
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. [/FONT]
i would say works (obeying the commandments) is the result of faith.
Peace.
Just translating what you said into my native
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, sans-serif]Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.
Romans 3:28
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
Romans 4:2
If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about - but not before God.
James 2:24
You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. [/FONT]
i would say works (obeying the commandments) is the result of faith.
Peace.
So I asked the Forest if I had said that.
Ek gebruik die vertaler om te sien of ek verkeerd skryf in Engels. Ek het opgehou studeer Engels maak oor 5 jaar en het net om te lees Engels. So kom ek hier op hierdie forum my Engels te verbeter. Hierdie tweede vreemde taal van hul land is vreemd.
i like this one. Does that make me an Calvinist?
Here in Brazil, many Arminian Baptists use that logic to say that they believe in predestination. But biblically there is a theological paradox. Unless you don't believe in Total Depravity.
Waar kry jy daardie vertaler?
Where do you get that translator?
Nou kan jy klets saam met die Chinese.
Ο άνθρωπος δεν είναι ελεύθερος να κάνει πνευματικές επιλογές.
in the above comment i just translated what you said in greek..
The natural man does not seek god.
..so one is either born of God or the enemy.
The two different seeds: God's seed (wheat) and the enemies seed (tares)
CONCLUSION: freewill is an allusion when it comes to spirituality. MAKE SENSE in a way.
The natural man does not seek god.
..so one is either born of God or the enemy.
The two different seeds: God's seed (wheat) and the enemies seed (tares)
CONCLUSION: freewill is an allusion when it comes to spirituality. MAKE SENSE in a way.