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He plants the Seed through His Word but it does not always take root.
"He is not a respecter of persons" that doesn't even make sense.
what scripture verses are you basing that assumption off of?
What about Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael, Abel and Cain?
God makes a pretty big distinction between those individuals.
"He is not a respecter of persons" that doesn't even make sense.
what scripture verses are you basing that assumption off of?
What about Jacob and Esau, Isaac and Ishmael, Abel and Cain?
God makes a pretty big distinction between those individuals.
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alright, first I'm not a Calvinist. Don't really know who he is. people sling his name like its an insult. I haven't read the writings of Calvin. If Calvin influences people it doesn't really matter to me. I judge the idea or doctrine by one standard: is it supported by God's revealed words in the Bible.
God made Adam and Eve. they were templates and THEY created the rest of the people by procreation. Some of the people God shaped for a special purpose. Those are His prophets, His chosen people, His priests.
Don't act all offended all through the Bible it talks about God's chosen people.
Since Adam and Eve were created in God's image and we are created in their image then by reflection we are created in God's image, but Adam and Eve died spiritually. They were made of dust and not spirit.
Until God breathes His Spirit into you, you are just dust and flesh.
Yes God made you responsible for your life, you are responsible for what you choose to believe. He does love everyone and He has a purpose for everyone.
how do you explain these verses of scripture?
Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”[f] 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As He says also in Hosea:
“ I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”[h]
26 “ And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘ You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
God made Adam and Eve. they were templates and THEY created the rest of the people by procreation. Some of the people God shaped for a special purpose. Those are His prophets, His chosen people, His priests.
Don't act all offended all through the Bible it talks about God's chosen people.
Since Adam and Eve were created in God's image and we are created in their image then by reflection we are created in God's image, but Adam and Eve died spiritually. They were made of dust and not spirit.
Until God breathes His Spirit into you, you are just dust and flesh.
Yes God made you responsible for your life, you are responsible for what you choose to believe. He does love everyone and He has a purpose for everyone.
how do you explain these verses of scripture?
Romans 9
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 15 For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.”[f] 16 So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” 20 But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
22 What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, 24 even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As He says also in Hosea:
“ I will call them My people, who were not My people,
And her beloved, who was not beloved.”[h]
26 “ And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them,
‘ You are not My people,’
There they shall be called sons of the living God.”
you have to bear in mind,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the u.s. was inhabited by immigrants from the countries of Europe and the religions of Europe also came into the u.s. "the religion of the vikings" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"yuletide" is the modern form of Christmas,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and so it is blended together with Christianity,,,,, ill take allot of flack for this i know,,,,,,,,,,,,but you if you research "Odin" was the precursor to the one you call 'Santa clause"he came to the fires in the longest day of December,,and set around the fire in a robe with a hood,,,,,,,,,,,he listened to the people and left them gifts,,,,,,,,,what they were asking for,,,,,needed,,,,and then left,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Odin" also called,,,,,,,Nicholas,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,sacrificed himself to himself by hanging himself in a tree,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,look at"viking religion",,,,,,,,,,,,,in 1200 or so we took Christianity and blended it with the modern forms and then the people of our country came to "America",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Scott,Irish,English,German,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
now in my own defense,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm from the Netherlands,,,,,,,,,,,,my kin is in your land,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i can trace my kin to back before the 1200's look at the religions that were crossed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i'm Cristian",,,,but i had to set aside the viking religion to get to it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you do not,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no o fence i'm trying to help
now in my own defense,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I'm from the Netherlands,,,,,,,,,,,,my kin is in your land,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i can trace my kin to back before the 1200's look at the religions that were crossed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i'm Cristian",,,,but i had to set aside the viking religion to get to it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but you do not,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no o fence i'm trying to help
i mean no offence, in what i say,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if you dont under stand my words,,i mean no offence,,,,,,i try to right click and correct them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so i would suspect some od the things i say are in broken sentences,,,,,,,,,,it is like when you say 'america',,,,,,,,do you mean you are from south america,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or centrial america,,,,,,,,or north america????????????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"i am american",,,,,,,,,,,,,,,were you born in peru????in south america??????????????or are you american born in canada in north america?????????????????????????
i wish some of you would anwser me to this things,,,,,,,,,,we hear here that the u.s. of the americas is over all of the americas and that the brizal even has to follow them and all the way to the tip of south america, and that they are making war in the world i tried to watch the "good morning america's' and it didnt say any thing to the countries in the south,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,where is the place in the american continant that is saying they are the "america'
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Yes, but you say that he accomplishes all his will and that it is his will to save all mankind, but he leaves untold millions to everlasting punishment, when he could have saved them. And you say that your God is a just God! Your God sounds much worse than my God. My God accomplishes all his will. Dan 4:35.
Nonsense. Where do you get these ideas and notions from? I do not in any wise "limit" the crowd of the saved. I do not speculate about any numbers or statistics either. All I am saying is, like Paul said, that those that are regenerated all have saving knowledge about Christ, whereas those who do not have this are yet lost. Whom God has determined to save and to have His Christ revealed unto in His timing I do not speculate about. Neither should any man.
Are you saying that the crowd mentioned in Romans 10:1-4 were saved anyway, in contrast to what Paul clearly said of their state?
As a fruit of regeneration regenerated souls believe the gospel conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Christ alone, whereas unregenerated dead religionist souls believes in a false gospel conditioned on the works of the sinner, which is no gospel at all. God will never leave a saved soul ignorant about the cause of salvation. Nor is anyone saved in such an ignorance. Note that this is not to say that knowledge is a prerequisite to salvation, but it is to say that regeneration brings such knowledge.
Are you saying that the crowd mentioned in Romans 10:1-4 were saved anyway, in contrast to what Paul clearly said of their state?
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