Was Jesus a victim of self aggrandizing suicide?
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It might help if you learn how to do quotes..
1. Giving free will requires that one may chose to walk away from you. If you want a slavemaster as a God. Feel free. I chose a loving God..
2. Yes, The father sent jesus. That does not prove Jesus did not volunteer. He had to get permission to come. The fathyer said yes. And sent him.
3. I am not her4e to look at youtube's. I am here to discuss Gods word. If you want to discuss fine.
1. Giving free will requires that one may chose to walk away from you. If you want a slavemaster as a God. Feel free. I chose a loving God..
2. Yes, The father sent jesus. That does not prove Jesus did not volunteer. He had to get permission to come. The fathyer said yes. And sent him.
3. I am not her4e to look at youtube's. I am here to discuss Gods word. If you want to discuss fine.
The Author of this thread has a problem with John 3:16!
I hate hearing people complain about Christiianity!
You don't really have a popular or founded religion do you.
I don't think true Christians have a problem with Jesus death or that God the Father sent Jesus.
God required Abraham to offer Isaaic!
You are against the Bible, Anathama, Maranatha!
I hate hearing people complain about Christiianity!
You don't really have a popular or founded religion do you.
I don't think true Christians have a problem with Jesus death or that God the Father sent Jesus.
God required Abraham to offer Isaaic!
You are against the Bible, Anathama, Maranatha!
I guess that you have yet to realize that the bulk of the Bible was forged and we have to apply reason and logic to it's words. It cannot be read literally and make sense.
You have decided to ignore these thinking gifts that God gave you and would prefer belief in the un-proven and un-knowable.
How can Jesus live before his mother did?
Can a God sacrifice himself to himself?
How does that work? Sacrifice has to have a lose or something of value given away to be a sacrifice. Right?
What did God give up. Nothing. He just made himself the hero of all Christians. Self aggrandizement to the max.
Your concept is just weird. You have God saying he has to die for his creation but not really die. Nothing changed for him so there is no lose or sacrifice.
Regards
DL
You have decided to ignore these thinking gifts that God gave you and would prefer belief in the un-proven and un-knowable.
How can Jesus live before his mother did?
Can a God sacrifice himself to himself?
How does that work? Sacrifice has to have a lose or something of value given away to be a sacrifice. Right?
What did God give up. Nothing. He just made himself the hero of all Christians. Self aggrandizement to the max.
Your concept is just weird. You have God saying he has to die for his creation but not really die. Nothing changed for him so there is no lose or sacrifice.
Regards
DL
Does Paul not say that there are only two choices? To be slaved to sin or slaved to God? One cannot serve two masters.
Yes Paul does. God is all about slaves as shown from his sissy fit the moment A & E showed that they were autonomous creatures with free will.
God then does the opposite of what the Bible says and fights what to him and dogma is evil with evils that no one knew of and were just thrown in as arbitrary punishments. The immoral thing to do.
Regards
DL
Yes Paul does. God is all about slaves as shown from his sissy fit the moment A & E showed that they were autonomous creatures with free will.
God then does the opposite of what the Bible says and fights what to him and dogma is evil with evils that no one knew of and were just thrown in as arbitrary punishments. The immoral thing to do.
Regards
DL
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this idolater wh argues with us uses the same trick as satan did. He asks "did God really say that". Did Jesus really exist before his mother?Jesus said even before Abraham I am" Did Jesus really exist even before abraham? It is written so and we know it to be true. The when w say something he disagrees with he says we are not followiing the scriptures, the very scriptures he says are false? He is just a sneaky serpent like his avatar.
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You bought into the lie told by Satan himself, who is your God I might add. He too thought God was a master and not a father. and this caused him to rebell. It was the lie he told eve and caused her to sin.
The problem is. Christ coming to earth destroys satan's lie. and yours. For a slavemaster would not die for his servants. he can always get more. You don't do what he says, He gets rid of you and finds someone else. God is a God who although his creation rebelled against him, Did not turn away, But came and died for them. So they could be set free.
As for Paul, he made a point. Would you rather let sin rule your life. and the destruction whcih comes with it. Or Have God lead you in a life which will benefit you. and bring you life.
Again, you read with a closed mind and heart. thus you will never understand my God. Thats ok though. He will show you who he is. Whether you want him to or not. One day you will meet him. And find out that he is not what you think he is.
God wants to set you free. are you listening to him?
The problem is. Christ coming to earth destroys satan's lie. and yours. For a slavemaster would not die for his servants. he can always get more. You don't do what he says, He gets rid of you and finds someone else. God is a God who although his creation rebelled against him, Did not turn away, But came and died for them. So they could be set free.
As for Paul, he made a point. Would you rather let sin rule your life. and the destruction whcih comes with it. Or Have God lead you in a life which will benefit you. and bring you life.
Again, you read with a closed mind and heart. thus you will never understand my God. Thats ok though. He will show you who he is. Whether you want him to or not. One day you will meet him. And find out that he is not what you think he is.
God wants to set you free. are you listening to him?