Were Miracles only for the Apostolic Age?

[loveschild]

1. Psalm 62:5
   My soul, wait only upon God and silently submit to Him; for my hope and expectation are from Him.
   Psalm 62:4-6 (in Context) Psalm 62 (Whole Chapter)

sorry this thing is messing up. I don't want to have the same as some devil worshiper. I want more than that. My Jesus if we can't hope in our God then what is there. I expect miracles everyday. I'm not all that but my God is. And he is a good God. I have a 5 year old grandson the DRs and all there ways said my grandson would die or be all messed up if he lived before he was born. He's perfect. I said I don't care what Drs say I trust my God that he will be fine and he is. Who taught this stuff hun I don't understand.

 

[Elizabeth619]

1. Psalm 62:5
   My soul, wait only upon God and silently submit to Him; for my hope and expectation are from Him.
   Psalm 62:4-6 (in Context) Psalm 62 (Whole Chapter)

sorry this thing is messing up. I don't want to have the same as some devil worshiper. I want more than that. My Jesus if we can't hope in our God then what is there. I expect miracles everyday. I'm not all that but my God is. And he is a good God. I have a 5 year old grandson the DRs and all there ways said my grandson would die or be all messed up if he lived before he was born. He's perfect. I said I don't care what Drs say I trust my God that he will be fine and he is. Who taught this stuff hun I don't understand.

Who taught what? I have given scripture to back up why I believe the way I do


I am glad your grandson is ok, but at the same time Doctors cannot and will not give you a 100% confirmation of any medical condition. They will give statistics. By law they cannot say a patient WILL not recover or WILL NOT die.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Well sure it does. First of if you had cancer you'd be wanting a miracle of Gods. Seeing someone else have it isn't the same.

mir·a·cle

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–noun 1. an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.

2. such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of god.

1. 1 Corinthians 9:10
   Or does He speak certainly and entirely for our sakes? [Assuredly] it is written for our sakes, because the plowman ought to plow in hope, and the thresher ought to thresh in expectation of partaking of the harvest.
   1 Corinthians 9:9-11 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 9 (Whole Chapter)

Actually, after my son was born. I did have cancer. So I know a little of what I am talkign about.

 

[robbieal1]

yes i belive jesus was refering to those folowing signs and wonders but god is vever chageing what he did back then he can and will do it today but we have to follow jesus not signs and wonders

 

[Elizabeth619]

And you expect miracles? I am not saying God wont do these things but you EXPECT them? Why isnt klnowledge and faith enough?

 

[AnandaHya]

I sometimes find it insulting that people seem to espect miracles because they are belivers. It just doesn't work that way.

i do too. they turn prayer into witchcraft thinking they can make God do their will and fulfill their lust instead of allowing God to transform their heart to match HIS will and His love and submit to obedience to HIM in their lives.

God answers prayers of the righteous because the righteous have humble and contrite hearts that yearn to do His will and not lusting after the pleasure of this world or their own flesh but yearning after a more close and intimate relationship with Jesus. A knowledge not of the world but of God's will, truth and love.

 

[FireOnTheAltar]

What people seem to forget is that authentic miracles occur often for those who discern and walk in the will of God for their lives. What God wills, He also provides.

 

[Elizabeth619]

What people seem to forget is that authentic miracles occur often for those who discern and walk in the will of God for their lives. What God wills, He also provides.

what kind of miracles.

examples?

 

[damombomb]

Some people may not believe in miracles until they need one .But yes I seen man get healed of back problems at a church.
Also seen a boy who was bedfast healed.By the grace of god!

 

[schoolofyoungprophet]

Da greatest mericals I see today when a person cries out for mercy of God to save him n to see tha person change in the power of the holy spirit,no mericals can compare to that beati of God workin in a dead man n make it alive

 

[VW]

God still does miracles. Sometimes they are for a sign to someone who needs to believe. Other times, it is just because He wants to do something in His creation.

A good biography to read is Smith Wigglesworth.

 

[loveschild]

Who taught what? I have given scripture to back up why I believe the way I do


I am glad your grandson is ok, but at the same time Doctors cannot and will not give you a 100% confirmation of any medical condition. They will give statistics. By law they cannot say a patient WILL not recover or WILL NOT die.

I never heard that one. The DRs said he would die or be messed up if he lived. The drs said my dad would be dead about 6 years ago. He's not. We stood on Gods word.

There are no scriptures to say there are no miracles. That's silly. But you can believe what you like. I hope the best for you!

 

[loveschild]

Actually, after my son was born. I did have cancer. So I know a little of what I am talkign about.

So are you mad at God or what? That happens you know. Or your marriage and give up hope on things. I'm sorry you had cancer. I hate cancer. My mom died of it years ago. I hope all works out for you. I love miracles and I hope you do too one day. But if you don't OK.

 

[loveschild]

what kind of miracles.

examples?

Well like years and years ago I was watching my dad work on my daughters house. And the Lord gave me a word of knowledge. He said your dads going to have a heart attack. It wasn't good news of course. I wasn't as learned in the word back then.
But like 3 in the morning my step mom called and my dad was having a heart attack.

Maybe that wouldn't qualify for a miracle but that God can talk to me I think is fantastic. So I think it's a miracle.

The Lord told me Satan was going to kill a baby if something wasn't done back in the day when that SARS disease just started. I got a hold of everyone I could to pray for the baby. His 2 sisters both got it also. They were in the hospital very bad. They were afriad they were going to die. The power of God healed them.

I went to the town the hospital was in and then I was going to check on them. I was at my daughters house and the Lord said if i was going to check on them I better do it cause he was sending them home. Something happened and I didn't go that day. The Lord told me he sent the girls home and he was going to send the baby home.

I went to the hospital and the girls were sent home and the baby was going ot be sent home the next day.

Or angels walking in the angels walking in the church. I heard the door keep opening and walking over and over. I had asked the Lord to fill the church. I didn't actually see the angles but this lady did but I heard them. The Lord filled the church up with angles.

Or the floor moving like a ocean wave or roller coaster. Things like that. Are miracles to me.

 

[Elizabeth619]

So are you mad at God or what? That happens you know. Or your marriage and give up hope on things. I'm sorry you had cancer. I hate cancer. My mom died of it years ago. I hope all works out for you. I love miracles and I hope you do too one day. But if you don't OK.

This is ridiculous. You have gone from being very soft spoken and sweet to outright hostile? Why? Al I have stated is MY beliefs. I have not said you or others are wrong to believe the way you believe, and I have constantly stated that my view of miracles and other signs is obviously different. I have never said that I do not believe in miracles. I never have even shown that i hate God either, but you failing to even understand what I am saying is rather insulting and commenting on my personal life in a way where you are attacking me is quite offensive. Thank goodness I am nice enough to inform you of my cancer, and a little bit about myself so you don't blow up in ignorance again..so here i go....

First off, I have never been married. Yes, I fornicated. I had sex and 2 minutes later..well, you know...

After my son was born they found some cancer cells somewhere in my body, and luckily a procedure got rid of them all. No treatment or medication was needed. I did not once HATE God for any of this, but was thankful God was in my life so I could ask for forgiveness for my sins after my baby was born, and was transported to another hospital for 2 weeks and lived in a incubator where I could not even hold my newborn. I prayed everyday for God to keep him safe, and to let him come home with me and not to take him from me. Sure, I was a 20 year old single mother and I guess it would have been "easier" if i did not have a child, but he was mine. I created him, and I asked God constantly to let me KEEP MY BABY BOY. To let me raise him to be a good Christian man and let him live a long a healthy life. God granted me this. My son is 9 years old.

Two days after I brought him home from the hospital his father informs me that he did not love me. He did not want me, or his child. He even stated he was cheating on me from the day he met me. Well, thats what I get for going to bed with someone who I am not married to. Did I hate God? NO. I leaned on him yet again.

Throughout my life I have leaned on him. As a matter of fact if it was not for God I would not have gotten out of an abusive relationship where I was emotionally and sexually abused for about 3 years. If it wasn't for God my mother may not still be alive after being diagnosed with cancer 3 times.

Finally, if it wasn't for God I would not have had to ability to watch my sister take her last breath. She died last month. I spent hours reading the bible and praying. Was I praying for a miracle? No. I was praying that God would end her suffering and take her. I knew that I would miss her, and I do. Yet, I also know that she is better off than any of us. Why? Because she is no longer suffereing. No longer depressed, suffering from colitis, and anorexia, liver failure, and kidney failure. She is in a better place.

Did I want her to live? Yes. Of course I did, but I also knew had she survived her quality of life would not be good. She would not be able to be a mother or wife. So I did what I thought was best and said "God, I can handle her death. Afterall we all will die one day, but please keep her around long enough to confess her sins, and make peace with others if she needs to, but please don't let her suffer.

That night, while sitting by my sisters side, tears in my eyes I prayed once more for God to take her from this suffereing. Suddenly I felt peaceful. Can't really explain it other than pleasant feeling and calm. I knew then everything was gonna be ok. About a minure later she took her last breath. I am speaking 100% truth here. What was that feeling I had just before she died? Well, I would most likely say that was God giving me comfort and assurance.
Was that a miracle? No. It was God's love.

So, do I hate God because I don't believe in moder day signs? No. I love God, and I use faith, the bible and prayer to praise him.

I don't need to see a supernatural occurance to know God is with me. He has his ways of showing me these things. Not by prophets, and watching a lame person walk....but by little suttle experiences that only I know about.

So be careful how to take others opinions. I love God as much as you do. I just don't need PROOF to believe in him. I have my faith.

Im also sorry I typed so long. That was not the intention but I refuse to use a backspace.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Well like years and years ago I was watching my dad work on my daughters house. And the Lord gave me a word of knowledge. He said your dads going to have a heart attack. It wasn't good news of course. I wasn't as learned in the word back then.
But like 3 in the morning my step mom called and my dad was having a heart attack.

Maybe that wouldn't qualify for a miracle but that God can talk to me I think is fantastic. So I think it's a miracle.

The Lord told me Satan was going to kill a baby if something wasn't done back in the day when that SARS disease just started. I got a hold of everyone I could to pray for the baby. His 2 sisters both got it also. They were in the hospital very bad. They were afriad they were going to die. The power of God healed them.

I went to the town the hospital was in and then I was going to check on them. I was at my daughters house and the Lord said if i was going to check on them I better do it cause he was sending them home. Something happened and I didn't go that day. The Lord told me he sent the girls home and he was going to send the baby home.

I went to the hospital and the girls were sent home and the baby was going ot be sent home the next day.

Or angels walking in the angels walking in the church. I heard the door keep opening and walking over and over. I had asked the Lord to fill the church. I didn't actually see the angles but this lady did but I heard them. The Lord filled the church up with angles.

Or the floor moving like a ocean wave or roller coaster. Things like that. Are miracles to me.

I have a story sort of like what you told about your dad. As I told in my previous post my sister was obviously sick and died as a result of her illness.

A couple months before she died she had a nervous breakdown. Of course no one is really going to link a breakdown to death, but at that moment something told me she would not live through the summer. I had no reason at that time to think that. Even told my mom that I didnt think Nicole would live. I said that in May. She died in June.

Mom remembers me saying that and asked how I knew. Honeslty, I dont know how I knew. It was just a feeling. So I started to "prepare" for her death. I mean she had a husband and 5 kids, PLUS mom losing her daughter would be hard.
I put on my big girl panties and grew up! Of course I was a total nutjob when she did die, but I felt like I could be the stronger one out of the whole group and hopefully be helpful to my loved ones.
And all because I had a feeling. It worked.

 

[AnandaHya]

So be careful how to take others opinions. I love God as much as you do. I just don't need PROOF to believe in him. I have my faith.
.

Amen. The only people who need "proof" are those who don't really believe or have faith in God and His Holy Promise of salvation in Christ.

. remember always that God loves and understands you even if the rest of the world doesn't seem to be able to do either.

I'm sorry for your lose and praise God for your faith.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Amen. The only people who need "proof" are those who don't really believe or have faith in God and His Holy Promise of salvation in Christ.

. remember always that God loves and understands you even if the rest of the world doesn't seem to be able to do either.

I'm sorry for your lose and praise God for your faith.

Thank you. I really do appreciate that. I have been a little hostile too. I dont know if it is a gift or a curse, but when I am stressed I am extremely sarcastic. Ya shoulda seen me at the funeral home. lol

 

[AnandaHya]

Thank you. I really do appreciate that. I have been a little hostile too. I dont know if it is a gift or a curse, but when I am stressed I am extremely sarcastic. Ya shoulda seen me at the funeral home. lol

i can deal with sarcastic and God sees people's hearts not just their words, tone or actions.

 

[loveschild]

This is ridiculous. You have gone from being very soft spoken and sweet to outright hostile? Why? Al I have stated is MY beliefs. I have not said you or others are wrong to believe the way you believe, and I have constantly stated that my view of miracles and other signs is obviously different. I have never said that I do not believe in miracles. I never have even shown that i hate God either, but you failing to even understand what I am saying is rather insulting and commenting on my personal life in a way where you are attacking me is quite offensive. Thank goodness I am nice enough to inform you of my cancer, and a little bit about myself so you don't blow up in ignorance again..so here i go....

First off, I have never been married. Yes, I fornicated. I had sex and 2 minutes later..well, you know...

After my son was born they found some cancer cells somewhere in my body, and luckily a procedure got rid of them all. No treatment or medication was needed. I did not once HATE God for any of this, but was thankful God was in my life so I could ask for forgiveness for my sins after my baby was born, and was transported to another hospital for 2 weeks and lived in a incubator where I could not even hold my newborn. I prayed everyday for God to keep him safe, and to let him come home with me and not to take him from me. Sure, I was a 20 year old single mother and I guess it would have been "easier" if i did not have a child, but he was mine. I created him, and I asked God constantly to let me KEEP MY BABY BOY. To let me raise him to be a good Christian man and let him live a long a healthy life. God granted me this. My son is 9 years old.

Two days after I brought him home from the hospital his father informs me that he did not love me. He did not want me, or his child. He even stated he was cheating on me from the day he met me. Well, thats what I get for going to bed with someone who I am not married to. Did I hate God? NO. I leaned on him yet again.

Throughout my life I have leaned on him. As a matter of fact if it was not for God I would not have gotten out of an abusive relationship where I was emotionally and sexually abused for about 3 years. If it wasn't for God my mother may not still be alive after being diagnosed with cancer 3 times.

Finally, if it wasn't for God I would not have had to ability to watch my sister take her last breath. She died last month. I spent hours reading the bible and praying. Was I praying for a miracle? No. I was praying that God would end her suffering and take her. I knew that I would miss her, and I do. Yet, I also know that she is better off than any of us. Why? Because she is no longer suffereing. No longer depressed, suffering from colitis, and anorexia, liver failure, and kidney failure. She is in a better place.

Did I want her to live? Yes. Of course I did, but I also knew had she survived her quality of life would not be good. She would not be able to be a mother or wife. So I did what I thought was best and said "God, I can handle her death. Afterall we all will die one day, but please keep her around long enough to confess her sins, and make peace with others if she needs to, but please don't let her suffer.

That night, while sitting by my sisters side, tears in my eyes I prayed once more for God to take her from this suffereing. Suddenly I felt peaceful. Can't really explain it other than pleasant feeling and calm. I knew then everything was gonna be ok. About a minure later she took her last breath. I am speaking 100% truth here. What was that feeling I had just before she died? Well, I would most likely say that was God giving me comfort and assurance.
Was that a miracle? No. It was God's love.

So, do I hate God because I don't believe in moder day signs? No. I love God, and I use faith, the bible and prayer to praise him.

I don't need to see a supernatural occurance to know God is with me. He has his ways of showing me these things. Not by prophets, and watching a lame person walk....but by little suttle experiences that only I know about.

So be careful how to take others opinions. I love God as much as you do. I just don't need PROOF to believe in him. I have my faith.

Im also sorry I typed so long. That was not the intention but I refuse to use a backspace.

What I asked a simple question and that makes out right hostile. Come on. You maybe are acting hostile. Seems like I hit a nerve. I didn't mean to make you so mad. If yo have issues don't try to turn it on me.

You stated your beliefs. OK I get it. You don't believe. Ok. But when you come and state your beliefs then why do you get all offended when others state there? I don't get it. I'm sorry you don't believe. Don't try and push your junk on me and I won't push mine on you. I get tickled people come here and they want to say what ever they want to say but no one else is to talk or we may hurt your feelings. I'm tired of having to pussy foot around everyone who comes in here. You decide not to believe Ok that is right. AS it is my right to believe. People come in here and make post and even tell people how they can answer back. I've seen. Your a very nice person unless someone hits some nerve that riled you.

Well in you won way yes you have said the rest of us who believe are wrong. We don't agree with so you keep sating how you think what you think and we keep stating what we think. That's how it works in here.

So you started off with you don't believe and now you say you never said that.

I'm not attacking you and I'm sorry you felt that way. I didn't mean for you to take it like that. I'm sorry I hurt you. I didn't mean to do that.

Somewhere you mentioned a x so it was me who thought you were married. Sorry.

I asked if you did hate God. I didn't say you did. It was a question and you could have answered or not. It's not all my business any way. If you did it was a good way to let it out.

See your talking about your baby. I was in the other room holding my granddaughter rubbing her tiny feet thinking she is a miracle of Gods. Tiny baby toes. Miracle of God. God knew her before she was born. Knew every hair on her head before she was conceived. Miracle to me.

I'm sorry about your sister. I knew how hard it is to watch someone suffer.

Well I knew the Lord was wanting me to get you to talk for a reason. You have a lot inside and needed to talk. Even if I made you mad I'm glad you got some of this out.

You didn't type too long. I'm glad to of read your heart. I'm glad you love God. still hurt me you want miracles. I'm glad your in a place where you believe in God with out seeing things. Me I love what I get to see. Helps me in hard times to rethink on them. I'm sorry I upset you so much. I still think your a nice person.