What are the noahide laws?

[cenallen]

..........

what's this?
meaning you don't believe it?
a "conspiracy theory"?


The Israel Lobby," by John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government, was one of the most controversial articles in recent memory. Originally published in the London Review of Books in March 2006, it provoked both howls of outrage and cheers of gratitude for challenging what had been a taboo issue in America: the impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy.

Now in a work of major importance, Mearsheimer and Walt deepen and expand their argument and confront recent developments in Lebanon and Iran. They describe the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States provides to Israel and argues that this support cannot be fully explained on either strategic or moral grounds. This exceptional relationship is due largely to the political influence of a loose coalition of individuals and organizations that actively work to shape U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction. Mearsheimer and Walt provocatively contend that the lobby has a far-reaching impact on America's posture throughout the Middle East--in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, and toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict--and the policies it has encouraged are in neither America's national interest nor Israel's long-term interest. The lobby's influence also affects America's relationship with important allies and increases dangers that all states face from global jihadist terror.

Writing in The New York Review of Books, Michael Massing declared, "Not since Foreign Affairs magazine published Samuel Huntington's 'The Clash of Civilizations?' in 1993 has an academic essay detonated with such force." The publication of The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy is certain to widen the debate and to be one of the most talked-about books of the year.

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy: John J. Mearsheimer,Stephen M. Walt: 9780374177720: Amazon.com: Books



join the enemies of the Cross as they build the last beast empire (with your children and money), or remain faithful to Christ. any idea where the DHS came from?

freewill and all that.

American Police Now “Israeli-DHS Trained,” Precursor To Dictatorship
Posted on August 11, 2012 by David2

Before It’s News I guess Ariel Sharon was telling the truth when he said Israel controls America How sickening is that? Barracuda

Press TV Slowly, every police department in the United States, at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security, is being trained by Israeli groups.

As part of this training, there is an increased move to use of military uniforms, armored vehicles, heavy weapons, illegal surveillance, lying to the people, press and courts and systematic interference in the electoral system.

They are becoming “Israeli.”

The door to this foreign influence in America was thrown open by the Department of Homeland Security and, in particular, Michael Chertoff, an Israeli citizen who was, in particular, most instrumental as former Director of DHS in implementing policies challenged as unconstitutional, policies the new “Israeli trained” American police are tasked with stopping opposition to.

“Israelization” of American police is a simple process:

- Total militarization of police, military tactics, utter disrespect for civil law, the constitution, civil liberties, freedom of speech and the unbridled growth of centralized power under unlimited corruption; government by money and organized crime.

- Systematic suppression of dissent

- Systematic use of intimidation to control the electoral process at every level of government

- Seamless coordination with military and “internationalist” groups to prepare for mass internment of sectors of the population, numbering in the millions

- Coordinated use of full military power including but not limited to bombing, strafing, heavy artillery and summary executions, the same methods Israel uses on a daily basis

- Even more control of the press, based on the Israeli model, with two “controlled” views, on pro-government and the second, “controlled opposition.”

 

[RedTent]

=cenallen; don't like the heat? so sorry. you shouldn't be pushing a deadly false religion.
its your uses of scripture to drag christians to spiritual death under talmudic order that is of satan.

does a christian pimp for Maimonides as you have done? (13 articles of faith).

does a christian deny the Day of Atonement has come?
NO. not one ever has.

What I don’t think is good thinking is “drag Christians to death”. I quoted that Christ said (which He did) that salvation is through the Jews. Christ didn’t say that? Did that drag people to death? Or that it is thought that in Acts the rules listed for gentiles referred to Naohide. Some say they did, big deal.

“Pushing deadly religion”. Never has God said that celebrating feasts or not persecuting Jews is deadly.

I have never even mentioned this Maimondies yet you say I pimp for him. Sometimes the bible gets pretty raunchy as it talks about sex, but this is pretty overboard.

I think Christ did something miraculous on the cross; it has to do with atonement for our sins. I also think that when Christ comes again there will be something miraculous, again, regarding atonement. I could be wrong, but you don’t say you think that. You say that means I deny Christ, and as it is through knowing Christ and accepting what He did for us that we are saved, it would be another way of saying I will go to hell for believing there will be a day of atonement on Christ’s return. Wow. Don’t think it is Christian to accuse someone of going to hell.

I think you are manufacturing the heat out of misunderstanding God, I really would rather everyone knows God well. God’s ways never result in such as we see on this post.

 

[Crossfire]

what's this?
meaning you don't believe it?
a "conspiracy theory"?


The Israel Lobby," by John J. Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen M. Walt of Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government, was one of the most controversial articles in recent memory. Originally published in the London Review of Books in March 2006, it provoked both howls of outrage and cheers of gratitude for challenging what had been a taboo issue in America: the impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy.

Now in a work of major importance, Mearsheimer and Walt deepen and expand their argument and confront recent developments in Lebanon and Iran. They describe the remarkable level of material and diplomatic support that the United States provides to Israel and argues that this support cannot be fully explained on either strategic or moral grounds. This exceptional relationship is due largely to the political influence of a loose coalition of individuals and organizations that actively work to shape U.S. foreign policy in a pro-Israel direction. Mearsheimer and Walt provocatively contend that the lobby has a far-reaching impact on America's posture throughout the Middle East--in Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, and toward the Israeli-Palestinian conflict--and the policies it has encouraged are in neither America's national interest nor Israel's long-term interest. The lobby's influence also affects America's relationship with important allies and increases dangers that all states face from global jihadist terror.

Writing in The New York Review of Books, Michael Massing declared, "Not since Foreign Affairs magazine published Samuel Huntington's 'The Clash of Civilizations?' in 1993 has an academic essay detonated with such force." The publication of The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy is certain to widen the debate and to be one of the most talked-about books of the year.

The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy: John J. Mearsheimer,Stephen M. Walt: 9780374177720: Amazon.com: Books



join the enemies of the Cross as they build the last beast empire (with your children and money), or remain faithful to Christ. any idea where the DHS came from?

freewill and all that.

American Police Now “Israeli-DHS Trained,” Precursor To Dictatorship
Posted on August 11, 2012 by David2

Before It’s News I guess Ariel Sharon was telling the truth when he said Israel controls America How sickening is that? Barracuda

Press TV Slowly, every police department in the United States, at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security, is being trained by Israeli groups.

As part of this training, there is an increased move to use of military uniforms, armored vehicles, heavy weapons, illegal surveillance, lying to the people, press and courts and systematic interference in the electoral system.

They are becoming “Israeli.”

The door to this foreign influence in America was thrown open by the Department of Homeland Security and, in particular, Michael Chertoff, an Israeli citizen who was, in particular, most instrumental as former Director of DHS in implementing policies challenged as unconstitutional, policies the new “Israeli trained” American police are tasked with stopping opposition to.

“Israelization” of American police is a simple process:

- Total militarization of police, military tactics, utter disrespect for civil law, the constitution, civil liberties, freedom of speech and the unbridled growth of centralized power under unlimited corruption; government by money and organized crime.

- Systematic suppression of dissent

- Systematic use of intimidation to control the electoral process at every level of government

- Seamless coordination with military and “internationalist” groups to prepare for mass internment of sectors of the population, numbering in the millions

- Coordinated use of full military power including but not limited to bombing, strafing, heavy artillery and summary executions, the same methods Israel uses on a daily basis

- Even more control of the press, based on the Israeli model, with two “controlled” views, on pro-government and the second, “controlled opposition.”

Anti-Semitism in the church never ceases to amaze me. I wonder if Hitler's "Mein Kampf" is required reading in some church circles?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

"conspiracy theories "

but i would venture to guess you're all over bombing arab countries out of the manufactured fear of Islam, all the while agreeing with LAWYERS in the US that we need more LAW. never once suspecting who gave you your mantra "conspiracy theories ".

of course, this is in perfect alignment with the tripe they gave you about Jesus not confirming the covenant.

Wow dude, yuo don't know me at all. And do us all a favor. If you can't show christian like attitude, and want to gety pissed at people who do not agree with you. Take your hate elswhere.

As for Jesus, He confirmed a covenant with ALL. Not many. And he did not commit the abomination of desolation. Get with the program.

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What does this have to do with Bush and Regan? wow some people!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

how? by not murdering? or not stealing, or by not being sexually immoral? or have i instead denied christ by not committing blasphemy? maybe it was by not idolatrating that i have denied christ instead. Please help me, will you come over to my house and plan my next murder so i can get closer to christ?

don't listen to the conspiracy theorists my friend. Your better off. this topic gets heated, and a few people are not here any longer. most likely for this very topic.

 

[Crossfire]

In order to fully understand the Noahide laws and their origin, you must first understand the difference between an Orthodox Jew and a Karaite Jew.

An Orthodox Jew is what the Bible describes as a Pharisee or a Sadducee. Historically, they came into prominence after the Babylonian capture of Israel / Judea and the first exiles of the Jews. Because the Temple was destroyed, the priesthood abolished and the Jews forced to live in foreign countries, they started to build places of worship in the foriegn cities in which they lived called "synagogues".

Many errors were introduced into their belief system during this time, one of which was the belief that only the Pharisees could interpret scripture and that they had the right to interpret scripture however they wanted without question. Many of these errors became oral tradition and were passed down from generation to generation until all them were finally written down in what we know call the Jewish "TALMUD" which means "oral tradition". The Noahide Laws are one of the many errors recorded in the Talmud.

Karaite Jews are Jewish purists. They believe that the Old Testament is the one and only Word of God and that the scriptures say what they mean, mean what they and that the Talmud is nothing but garbage.

Here's a video from a Karaite Jew to help you understand the difference:

What Orthodox Jews (Pharisees) believe - Pt 1/5 - introduction - YouTube

The reason why this is significant is because Jesus Himself was basically the equivalent of a Karaite Jew during His time. Jesus taught against the non-biblical traditions of the Pharisees and Sadducees then would turn around and perform a miracle to in order to prove that He spoke with God given authority. This heavily angered the Orthodox Jews of the era and is the reason why the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus so badly.

Now, let's fast forward 1500 years to the Great Reformation and the ministry of Martin Luther:

It was Martin Luther who first inspired a huge break from the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church was also guilty of interpreting scripture to mean whatever they wanted it to mean thus Catholocism became very corrupt. Martin Luther taught that scripture is the standard in which all doctrine must be measured and that if anyone's doctrine or traditions does not line up with scripture then their it is their doctrine or tradition that is wrong and must be modified. The scripture itself must remain pure and must never be tampered with.

Eventually Martin Luther would get his hands on a copy of the Talmud. It became obvious to him that the Orthodox Jews were guilty of committing the same error as the Catholic Church in believing that they could interpret scripture to mean whatever they chose thus Luther used his influence to speak out against the Jewish people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...d_antisemitism

Over the centuries such disdain for the Jewish people became hatred and certain Churches began to develop and embrace very anti-Jewish doctrine depicting Jews as the people of the Antichrist. Ironically, in doing so, such people have broken one of their own cardinal rules; they have twisted scripture to suit their purposes. As the Lutheran & Reformed Churches spread across Europe so did their hatred for the Jews. Eventually this hatred would evolve into political movements and eventually lead to the mass slaughter of European Jews during World War 2.

There are several people on these boards who embrace doctrine with very anti-Jewish traditions. They would lead you to believe various conspiracy theories that Jewish people, in an attempt to take over the world, are secretly responsible for many great tragedies over the years including the 911 terror attacks and the recent global economic crisis.

I believe such people are deceived. The core of their belief system, Amillenialism, rests on the idea that the majority of the prophecies spoken of in the book of Revelation were fulfilled in the 1st Century A.D. If their belief system is true and we are living the promised millennial kingdom, then it would require that the prophecies of the Antichrist and the False Prophet were fulfilled during the first century thus their claims against Israel and the Jewish people are entirely unjustified. The next prophetic event on their calandar should be the "Battle of Gog & Magog" where Satan will be released for a short peried of time which scripture states will occur at the end of the millenium before the Great White Throne Judgement. After the "Battle" Satan will be tossed into the lake of fire where the Antichrist and the False Prophet were already imprisoned before the Millennium ever started. Instead, Amillennials choose to commit the same error as the Orthodox Jews and the Catholics have in centuries past by choosing to "cut & paste" scripture, twisting it to fit their own Antisemitic agenda.

The sad part is that various Amillennials are actually working closely with Muslims to fuel much of the anti-Jewish rhetoric that appears in European and Middle Eastern media. It is their hate for the Jew which has inspired them to cut covenant with an even greater enemy, Muslim extremists.

 

[chesser]

don't listen to the conspiracy theorists my friend. Your better off. this topic gets heated, and a few people are not here any longer. most likely for this very topic.

No, I realize cenallen is being stupid, what I'm asking is where do the laws come from? I'massuming somewhere in Genisis.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

In order to fully understand the Noahide laws and their origin, you must first understand the difference between an Orthodox Jew and a Karaite Jew.

An Orthodox Jew is what the Bible describes as a Pharisee or a Sadducee. Historically, they came into prominence after the Babylonian capture of Israel / Judea and the first exiles of the Jews. Because the Temple was destroyed, the priesthood abolished and the Jews forced to live in foreign countries, they started to build places of worship in the foriegn cities in which they lived called "synagogues".

Many errors were introduced into their belief system during this time, one of which was the belief that only the Pharisees could interpret scripture and that they had the right to interpret scripture however they wanted without question. Many of these errors became oral tradition and were passed down from generation to generation until all them were finally written down in what we know call the Jewish "TALMUD" which means "oral tradition". The Noahide Laws are one of the many errors recorded in the Talmud.

Karaite Jews are Jewish purists. They believe that the Old Testament is the one and only Word of God and that the scriptures say what they mean, mean what they and that the Talmud is nothing but garbage.

Here's a video from a Karaite Jew to help you understand the difference:

What Orthodox Jews (Pharisees) believe - Pt 1/5 - introduction - YouTube

The reason why this is significant is because Jesus Himself was basically the equivalent of a Karaite Jew during His time. Jesus taught against the non-biblical traditions of the Pharisees and Sadducees then would turn around and perform a miracle to in order to prove that He spoke with God given authority. This heavily angered the Orthodox Jews of the era and is the reason why the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus so badly.

Now, let's fast forward 1500 years to the Great Reformation and the ministry of Martin Luther:

It was Martin Luther who first inspired a huge break from the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church was also guilty of interpreting scripture to mean whatever they wanted it to mean thus Catholocism became very corrupt. Martin Luther taught that scripture is the standard in which all doctrine must be measured and that if anyone's doctrine or traditions does not line up with scripture then their it is their doctrine or tradition that is wrong and must be modified. The scripture itself must remain pure and must never be tampered with.

Eventually Martin Luther would get his hands on a copy of the Talmud. It became obvious to him that the Orthodox Jews were guilty of committing the same error as the Catholic Church in believing that they could interpret scripture to mean whatever they chose thus Luther used his influence to speak out against the Jewish people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...d_antisemitism

Over the centuries such disdain for the Jewish people became hatred and certain Churches began to develop and embrace very anti-Jewish doctrine depicting Jews as the people of the Antichrist. Ironically, in doing so, such people have broken one of their own cardinal rules; they have twisted scripture to suit their purposes. As the Lutheran & Reformed Churches spread across Europe so did their hatred for the Jews. Eventually this hatred would evolve into political movements and eventually lead to the mass slaughter of European Jews during World War 2.

There are several people on these boards who embrace doctrine with very anti-Jewish traditions. They would lead you to believe various conspiracy theories that Jewish people, in an attempt to take over the world, are secretly responsible for many great tragedies over the years including the 911 terror attacks and the recent global economic crisis.

I believe such people are deceived. The core of their belief system, Amillenialism, rests on the idea that the majority of the prophecies spoken of in the book of Revelation were fulfilled in the 1st Century A.D. If their belief system is true and we are living the promised millennial kingdom, then it would require that the prophecies of the Antichrist and the False Prophet were fulfilled during the first century thus their claims against Israel and the Jewish people are entirely unjustified. The next prophetic event on their calandar should be the "Battle of Gog & Magog" where Satan will be released for a short peried of time which scripture states will occur at the end of the millenium before the Great White Throne Judgement. After the "Battle" Satan will be tossed into the lake of fire where the Antichrist and the False Prophet were already imprisoned before the Millennium ever started. Instead, Amillennials choose to commit the same error as the Orthodox Jews and the Catholics have in centuries past by choosing to "cut & paste" scripture, twisting it to fit their own Antisemitic agenda.

The sad part is that various Amillennials are actually working closely with Muslims to fuel much of the anti-Jewish rhetoric that appears in European and Middle Eastern media. It is their hate for the Jew which has inspired them to cut covenant with an even greater enemy, Muslim extremists.

While I would not call all amillenialists anti-semites. I will say this is where this doctrine comes from. God is done with the jews. they killed Christ etc etc.

Paul says they ARE our enemy, because they reject the gospel., and are believing in a false gospel. But Paul makes it clear. they are to be loved because of the promises made the fathers. The promises still stand, and will be fulfilled in a future date when ALL Isreal will be saved, and they are given back the kingdom which was taken from them because of their unbelief!

 

[Crossfire]

In order to fully understand the Noahide laws and their origin, you must first understand the difference between an Orthodox Jew and a Karaite Jew.

An Orthodox Jew is what the Bible describes as a Pharisee or a Sadducee. Historically, they came into prominence after the Babylonian capture of Israel / Judea and the first exiles of the Jews. Because the Temple was destroyed, the priesthood abolished and the Jews forced to live in foreign countries, they started to build places of worship in the foriegn cities in which they lived called "synagogues".

Many errors were introduced into their belief system during this time, one of which was the belief that only the Pharisees could interpret scripture and that they had the right to interpret scripture however they wanted without question. Many of these errors became oral tradition and were passed down from generation to generation until all them were finally written down in what we know call the Jewish "TALMUD" which means "oral tradition". The Noahide Laws are one of the many errors recorded in the Talmud.

Karaite Jews are Jewish purists. They believe that the Old Testament is the one and only Word of God and that the scriptures say what they mean, mean what they and that the Talmud is nothing but garbage.

Here's a video from a Karaite Jew to help you understand the difference:

What Orthodox Jews (Pharisees) believe - Pt 1/5 - introduction - YouTube

The reason why this is significant is because Jesus Himself was basically the equivalent of a Karaite Jew during His time. Jesus taught against the non-biblical traditions of the Pharisees and Sadducees then would turn around and perform a miracle to in order to prove that He spoke with God given authority. This heavily angered the Orthodox Jews of the era and is the reason why the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus so badly.

Now, let's fast forward 1500 years to the Great Reformation and the ministry of Martin Luther:

It was Martin Luther who first inspired a huge break from the Catholic Church because the Catholic Church was also guilty of interpreting scripture to mean whatever they wanted it to mean thus Catholocism became very corrupt. Martin Luther taught that scripture is the standard in which all doctrine must be measured and that if anyone's doctrine or traditions does not line up with scripture then their it is their doctrine or tradition that is wrong and must be modified. The scripture itself must remain pure and must never be tampered with.

Eventually Martin Luther would get his hands on a copy of the Talmud. It became obvious to him that the Orthodox Jews were guilty of committing the same error as the Catholic Church in believing that they could interpret scripture to mean whatever they chose thus Luther used his influence to speak out against the Jewish people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_...d_antisemitism

Over the centuries such disdain for the Jewish people became hatred and certain Churches began to develop and embrace very anti-Jewish doctrine depicting Jews as the people of the Antichrist. Ironically, in doing so, such people have broken one of their own cardinal rules; they have twisted scripture to suit their purposes. As the Lutheran & Reformed Churches spread across Europe so did their hatred for the Jews. Eventually this hatred would evolve into political movements and eventually lead to the mass slaughter of European Jews during World War 2.

There are several people on these boards who embrace doctrine with very anti-Jewish traditions. They would lead you to believe various conspiracy theories that Jewish people, in an attempt to take over the world, are secretly responsible for many great tragedies over the years including the 911 terror attacks and the recent global economic crisis.

I believe such people are deceived. The core of their belief system, Amillenialism, rests on the idea that the majority of the prophecies spoken of in the book of Revelation were fulfilled in the 1st Century A.D. If their belief system is true and we are living the promised millennial kingdom, then it would require that the prophecies of the Antichrist and the False Prophet were fulfilled during the first century thus their claims against Israel and the Jewish people are entirely unjustified. The next prophetic event on their calandar should be the "Battle of Gog & Magog" where Satan will be released for a short peried of time which scripture states will occur at the end of the millenium before the Great White Throne Judgement. After the "Battle" Satan will be tossed into the lake of fire where the Antichrist and the False Prophet were already imprisoned before the Millennium ever started. Instead, Amillennials choose to commit the same error as the Orthodox Jews and the Catholics have in centuries past by choosing to "cut & paste" scripture, twisting it to fit their own Antisemitic agenda.

The sad part is that various Amillennials are actually working closely with Muslims to fuel much of the anti-Jewish rhetoric that appears in European and Middle Eastern media. It is their hate for the Jew which has inspired them to cut covenant with an even greater enemy, Muslim extremists.

It should be noted that not all Amillennials are Antisemtic. Covenental theology does have it's share of good points and is worth a read. It's too bad that many have used it to fuel their Antisemitic agendas.

 

[Crossfire]

While I would not call all amillenialists anti-semites. I will say this is where this doctrine comes from. God is done with the jews. they killed Christ etc etc.

Paul says they ARE our enemy, because they reject the gospel., and are believing in a false gospel. But Paul makes it clear. they are to be loved because of the promises made the fathers. The promises still stand, and will be fulfilled in a future date when ALL Isreal will be saved, and they are given back the kingdom which was taken from them because of their unbelief!

Apparently as you wrote this I was in the process of writing the statement that appears after your above post and below this one where I agree that not all Amillennials are Antisemtic. However, there is no way I would ever vote for an Amillennial to enter the White House.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Apparently as you wrote this I was in the process of writing the statement that appears after your above post and below this one where I agree that not all Amillennials are Antisemtic. However, there is no way I would ever vote for an Amillennial to enter the White House.

lol. I see that. And I never thought it before. But I may just agree with you. But would be hard. I would never vote for a liberal, even if the republican was an ammilenial. Then again, the one in office is going to bankrupt us, and we may not have to worry about it anymore..

 

[systemdown101]

Oh, dear Lord. Not THIS again.

United States Congress

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded; Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws

This "law" is the one the conspiracy nuts always trot out to say that Congress under the New World Order or the like have now declared us under Noahide Laws. But let's look a little closer at the ENTIRE law, shall we? It might prove instructive. It's right here.

Public Law 102--14 (H.J. Res. 104): March 20, 1991
Education Day, USA Proclamation
Joint Resolution to designate March 26, 1991 as "Education Day, USA"
Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the rebbe", this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving", the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as "Education Day. U.S.A.". The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Approved March 20, 1991.

INTERESTING how many people forget (or rather lie by omission) that the Noahide Laws are ONLY mentioned in the preamble of a law honoring some Rabbi and that the ACTUAL LAW is the part that happens after the phrase "Now, therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled"

The Noahide Laws have NOT been implemented by Congress, but you've got conspiracy nuts and anti-Semites walking around taking the preamble out of context and making it look that way. For those of you that don't have the equivalent of a jr. high social studies education, the preamble of a law is merely diplomatic fluff and has no legal value.

But lets say that you are STILL a paranoid anti-Semite and you think these laws have been established. Okay. Have you seen anyone arrested for worshiping an idol? Nope, that's covered under seperation of Church and State and a million lawyers would make easy money defending you if it happened. How about sexual immorality? I dunno, I don't see Charlie Sheen, Kristin Stewart, and Bill Clinton in jail. Prohibition of blasphemy? That would put 90% of all stand-up comics in jail.

You know, I'm gonna make an educated guess and say that these Noahide Laws are NOT in effect in the US. I'm also gonna make an educated guess and say that the people who point to this law after taking it out of context and using it as proof may have an agenda of their own.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

how? by not murdering? or not stealing, or by not being sexually immoral? or have i instead denied christ by not committing blasphemy? maybe it was by not idolatrating that i have denied christ instead. Please help me, will you come over to my house and plan my next murder so i can get closer to christ?

When the Jew governor of New York signs homosexuality into law, is that 'sexual immorality' or is it just that Jews get to define what 'the law' is?

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Chesser, if you read the highlighted portion, you will see where the conspiracy theories enter in. In case you wanted to know when it was mentioned.

apparently in reference to:

Note also that the US Congress has affirmed, and President's Reagan and Bush have signed proclamations for the Noahide Laws in the US.

Is this untrue? Where is the conspiracy implied?

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Oh, dear Lord. Not THIS again.



This "law" is the one the conspiracy nuts always trot out to say that Congress under the New World Order or the like have now declared us under Noahide Laws. But let's look a little closer at the ENTIRE law, shall we? It might prove instructive. It's right here.



INTERESTING how many people forget (or rather lie by omission) that the Noahide Laws are ONLY mentioned in the preamble of a law honoring some Rabbi and that the ACTUAL LAW is the part that happens after the phrase "Now, therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled"

The Noahide Laws have NOT been implemented by Congress, but you've got conspiracy nuts and anti-Semites walking around taking the preamble out of context and making it look that way. For those of you that don't have the equivalent of a jr. high social studies education, the preamble of a law is merely diplomatic fluff and has no legal value.

But lets say that you are STILL a paranoid anti-Semite and you think these laws have been established. Okay. Have you seen anyone arrested for worshiping an idol? Nope, that's covered under seperation of Church and State and a million lawyers would make easy money defending you if it happened. How about sexual immorality? I dunno, I don't see Charlie Sheen, Kristin Stewart, and Bill Clinton in jail. Prohibition of blasphemy? That would put 90% of all stand-up comics in jail.

You know, I'm gonna make an educated guess and say that these Noahide Laws are NOT in effect in the US. I'm also gonna make an educated guess and say that the people who point to this law after taking it out of context and using it as proof may have an agenda of their own.

What does "THEREFORE" mean?

I'm not implying any 'conspiracy' in saying that Presidents and Congress have affirmed these laws. I am simply saying that they have affirmed them, which they have. Further I am not saying that these laws have been written into law as they have been affirmed only for "Education Day" which we will try to keep that way, and which we will indeed try to educate on.

 

[Digital_Angel_316]

Let me get this strait... You belive idoltary, murder, theft, sexual immorality, blasphemy, and eating animals alive is ok? And that there should be no judicial system? Tell me, which of these things do you do?

There are "errors of commission" where a person is held responsible for acting on or against a stated precept.

There are "errors of omission" where things have been left out, or worse, are left to be interpreted by some small group of people (for example nine guys and gals in robes behind benches, with hammers).

By leaving precepts out, does one make all such things legal? One example would be illegitimacy, a key one, since it is a part of what Jesus nailed to the cross (Mithra). Another example might be, what of the Idolatry in sports, music and entertainment industries for secular gain? What of "Excesses" in all things, for example where food is turned either to cuisine or junk, shelter is turned to McMansions, Clothing is turned to Fashion, and the attendant problems our societies are having with the results of these (example: most of America's health problems are lifestyle and diet related)?

I am not saying to make laws for these things, as the system has turned to one of precepts and teaching the basis for these precepts and to call as many who will, to understand, believe and follow these precepts. I am saying, that to tacitly approve by declaring one thing is law, and another is not is to work against the precepts, implicitly approving of many things, simply because the are 'omitted' from the law(s).

 

[cenallen]

But lets say that you are STILL a paranoid anti-Semite and you think these laws have been established. Okay. Have you seen anyone arrested for worshiping an idol? Nope, that's covered under seperation of Church and State and a million lawyers would make easy money defending you if it happened. How about sexual immorality? I dunno, I don't see Charlie Sheen, Kristin Stewart, and Bill Clinton in jail. Prohibition of blasphemy? That would put 90% of all stand-up comics in jail.

You know, I'm gonna make an educated guess and say that these Noahide Laws are NOT in effect in the US. I'm also gonna make an educated guess and say that the people who point to this law after taking it out of context and using it as proof may have an agenda of their own.

what part of this don't you get?
what part of LAW by PRECEDENT don't you understand?
what part of CONGRESS agreeing that supposedly the bedrock of SOCIETY SINCE THE DAWN OF CIVILIZATION HAS BEEN THESE SATANIC NOAHIDE LAWS? dont you get?
can you read?

how do you think history is rewritten? how do you think antichrists think to change times and laws?
and what agenda do i have by posting what CHABAD and CONGRESS have slipped into Congressional Record as being the BEDROCK of OUR LAWS?

what agenda do YOU have by vomiting out antisemitic paranoid blah blah blah.
easy to see.
this is on your head, you are complicit.



EDUCATION DAY U.S.A
Public Law 102-14, H.J. Res 104
102nd Congress of the United States of America
March 5, 1991

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the Rebbe," this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving," the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as Education Day U.S.A The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Approved March 20, 1991.
Signed by George Bush,
President of the United States of America


read it.
don't see it matching up to our current condition?
that's your problem.

if you agree the Noahide Laws are the foundation of civilzation as Masons and Talmudic jews do (THE "JUDICIAL"SYSTEM), you're with them in their agenda.
simply do a search on any Masonic site to see who are the Judges and lawyers.

if you don,t why don't you say so?

 

[cenallen]

Apparently as you wrote this I was in the process of writing the statement that appears after your above post and below this one where I agree that not all Amillennials are Antisemtic. However, there is no way I would ever vote for an Amillennial to enter the White House.

no, vote for your Mormon (who is a Freemasonic kabbalist puppet of Zionism - any 5 year old knows this by now).
vote for your war-mongers who are murdering for g-ds chosen people.
vote for the persecution and destruction first of dehumanized eastern christians, then we in the west.
with friends like your cults - who needs enemies.

 

[cenallen]

lol. I see that. And I never thought it before. But I may just agree with you. But would be hard. I would never vote for a liberal, even if the republican was an ammilenial. Then again, the one in office is going to bankrupt us, and we may not have to worry about it anymore..

no, we are so dumbed down we think we are fighting for a carnal 1,000 year kingdom since we dont believe Jesus is king right now.
we are too dumbed down to understand what amillennialism is.
we say we dont folloow men but we followed darby and scofield into the synagogue of satan where we joyfully serve the enemies of the Cross.
we are so smug in our apostasy.

 

[Crossfire]

what part of this don't you get?
what part of LAW by PRECEDENT don't you understand?
what part of CONGRESS agreeing that supposedly the bedrock of SOCIETY SINCE THE DAWN OF CIVILIZATION HAS BEEN THESE SATANIC NOAHIDE LAWS? dont you get?
can you read?

how do you think history is rewritten? how do you think antichrists think to change times and laws?
and what agenda do i have by posting what CHABAD and CONGRESS have slipped into Congressional Record as being the BEDROCK of OUR LAWS?

what agenda do YOU have by vomiting out antisemitic paranoid blah blah blah.
easy to see.
this is on your head, you are complicit.



EDUCATION DAY U.S.A
Public Law 102-14, H.J. Res 104
102nd Congress of the United States of America
March 5, 1991

Whereas Congress recognizes the historical tradition of ethical values and principles which are the basis of civilized society and upon which our great Nation was founded;

Whereas these ethical values and principles have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization, when they were known as the Seven Noahide Laws;

Whereas without these ethical values and principles the edifice of civilization stands in serious peril of returning to chaos;

Whereas society is profoundly concerned with the recent weakening of these principles that has resulted in crises that beleaguer and threaten the fabric of civilized society;

Whereas the justified preoccupation with these crises must not let the citizens of this Nation lose sight of their responsibility to transmit these historical ethical values from our distinguished past to the generations of the future;

Whereas the Lubavitch movement has fostered and promoted these ethical values and principles throughout the world;

Whereas Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, leader of the Lubavitch movement, is universally respected and revered and his eighty-ninth birthday falls on March 26, 1991;

Whereas in tribute to this great spiritual leader, "the Rebbe," this, his ninetieth year will be seen as one of "education and giving," the year in which we turn to education and charity to return the world to the moral and ethical values contained in the Seven Noahide Laws; and

Whereas this will be reflected in an international scroll of honor signed by the President of the United States and other heads of state: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That March 26, 1991, the start of the ninetieth year of Rabbi Menachem Schneerson, leader of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, is designated as Education Day U.S.A The President is requested to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe such day with appropriate ceremonies and activities.

Approved March 20, 1991.
Signed by George Bush,
President of the United States of America


read it.
don't see it matching up to our current condition?
that's your problem.

if you agree the Noahide Laws are the foundation of civilzation as Masons and Talmudic jews do (THE "JUDICIAL"SYSTEM), you're with them in their agenda.
simply do a search on any Masonic site to see who are the Judges and lawyers.

if you don,t why don't you say so?

If Congress passed such laws and they are in effect then please explain legalized abortion and the push to legalize gay marriage? I'm sure that, if given a few minutes to think about it, we could come up with several controversial issues supported by the mainstream liberal agenda that is becoming prominently accepted in this nation that totally defies the Noahide laws.

Your conspiracy theory simply does not hold water compared to cold hard facts and logical reason.