What does the Law REALLY say?

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JaumeJ

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"JaumeJ you can say anything you want but you are ill informed about many things and you are prejudice about a lot of other things. "

Somehow your post does not ring true, and, your accusation reminds me of someone else who posts here. I understood what you posted, and it was so far off of a reply to me, I will have to just ignore it, and a few other things.
 
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"JaumeJ you can say anything you want but you are ill informed about many things and you are prejudice about a lot of other things. "

Somehow your post does not ring true, and, your accusation reminds me of someone else who posts here. I understood what you posted, and it was so far off of a reply to me, I will have to just ignore it, and a few other things.
'Far off' concerning Abraham? Prove that what I said is far off instead of copping out by ignoring like you do so often. Anytime someone has to tell another that they are ignoring certain posts is immature and does not have a sound reply. The law has you so messed up because of how you relate to it and you fail miserably to understand what Christ has offered us in the new covenant of grace and truth. You love the old wine skin and that old garment and you refuse to give it up when you have new wine that you can put into a new wine skin.

Meditate on this... He told them a proverb also: No one puts a patch from a new garment on an old garment; if he does, he will both tear the new one, and the patch from the new [one] will not match the old [garment].And no one pours new wine into old wineskins; if he does, the fresh wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled and the skins will be ruined (destroyed).But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins.And no one after drinking old wine immediately desires new wine, for he says, The old is good or better.
 
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What About the Ten Commandments and "The Law"?
by Paul Kroll

Some Christians ask: "If the Law is done away, how do we know what God expects of us, and what should our moral guidelines be for living a Christian life?" The question comes partly because we don’t precisely and correctly define our terms. When Jesus or Paul speak of "the law," they are often referring to the commandments set down in the old covenant. Jewish rabbis identified 613 such laws. "The Law" could also refer to the entire Old Testament, or to the teachings of the Law and the Prophets, two of the three sections of the Jewish Holy Scriptures. "The Law" could also refer more precisely to the first five books of the Old Testament.

We could become even more specific and say that "the Law" refers to all the commandments and regulations found between Exodus 20:1 and Deuteronomy 34:12. (Circumcision was given earlier in Genesis 17:9-14, and then incorporated into the Law of Moses, as Leviticus 12:3 shows.) This would include the Ten Commandments, which serve as a kind of introduction and summary of Israel’s obligations under the old covenant.

There is nothing special about the Ten Commandments as individual laws. The ten precepts found there are also found in the rest of the Law of Moses, where they are explained and expounded in greater detail. On the other hand, the Ten Commandments lack some important principles found in the rest of the Mosaic Law. For example, the two "great commandments" of loving God above all (Deuteronomy 6:5) and one’s neighbor as oneself (Leviticus 19:18) are not part of the Ten Commandments.

The Israelites would have been able to fulfill the terms of the old covenant even if they didn’t have the Ten Commandments, but they could not do so if those were the only commandments they had. The point is that the Ten Commandments must be put in their proper perspective. By themselves, they did not comprise the definitive statement of what constituted a covenantal relationship between God and his people Israel. They certainly do not represent the best of the old covenant, and certainly not of the new, as some Christians wrongly assume. (Perhaps they have achieved their near mythic status among some Christians because they are concise – they have "sound bite" value.)

The concept of fulfilling the "terms" of the covenant may need a brief explanation. Both the old and new covenants are based on God’s grace. The "terms" of either covenant set down in the Law of Moses or "law of Christ" are the expected responses to God’s grace. God’s grace is given by him as a free gift, and is not earned by this expected response of obedience and faithfulness.

"The Law" or "God’s Law," when this is a reference to the complete old covenant legal system, was considered as a single entity or one whole law. New Testament writers do not break up the Law of Moses into distinct categories when they speak of it. Yet, there is nothing wrong in doing so in order to help us understand what the Law was and what its relationship to the Christian might be.

The Mosaic Law contained several categories of law, including ceremonial, sacrificial, civil and moral-spiritual regulations. An example of a ceremonial law would be the regulation that required a woman to be "unclean" for a certain period of time after giving birth. A sacrificial law might involve the sacrificing of an animal, as in the burnt offering. An example of a civil statute would be the regulation that a Hebrew slave or servant was to serve six years and be freed in the seventh year without any payment to the owner. A moral-spiritual principle would be Leviticus 19:18 that commanded Israelites to love their neighbor as themselves.

Each of these categories of law is different from the other, and some do not have direct application to Christians. For example, Christian men do not need to be physically circumcised to be within a new covenant relationship with God. Christian women are not ceremonially unclean after giving birth. This leads to one important conclusion. If we want to ask about specific commandments contained in the Law of Moses (including the Ten Commandments) we always have to ask: Of all the laws God gave, which ones must Christians also keep?

The correct way to understand the Law of Moses is that it was an old covenant specific code, and has no jurisdiction upon Christians. The Mosaic Law defined the terms of the old covenant. But Christians are not under the old covenant. They are people of the new covenant and the "law of Christ" (Galatians 6:2). The Law of Moses is "done away" as far as Christians are concerned, and it is replaced by the "law of Christ."

Of course, there may be commandments in both the Law of Moses and the "law of Christ" that are similar or the same, and they would apply to both old covenant Israelites and new covenant Christians. But this does not mean all the old covenant laws apply to Christians. We must know how to choose between them, and on what basis to make this choice.
Perhaps an example will illustrate. If you live in California you must obey the regulations of the California Motor Vehicle Code when you drive your car. If you move to New York, you no longer need to obey this code but must now be in
compliance with the New York State driving code. You are no longer a Californian but a New Yorker. Of course, both codes have many of the same laws, but they will also have some different regulations. Just because the New York code contains some of the same regulations as the California code does not mean you must keep those regulations in the California code that do not appear in the regulation book for New York. Neither are you under the jurisdiction of the California motor vehicles code, because you have moved to a new state.

In the same way, Christians are not under the old covenant Mosaic Law because they are new covenant Christians living under the "law of Christ." Just because some individual regulations of the Mosaic Law apply to Christians, does not mean they all do, regardless of whether they are in the Ten Commandments or the Law of Moses proper. How do we know which laws we must obey? The answer is simple. The New Testament tells us which ones we should comply with.
We can find out which laws apply to us by looking at the "sin and virtue" lists that are found in various parts of the New Testament. Let’s look at Galatians 5:14-25 as an example. This passage of Scripture begins by telling us that we should love our neighbor as our self—one of the two "great commandments" of the Law of Moses.

In verses 19-21, the apostle Paul lists a number of "acts of the sinful nature," which he says should be "obvious" to a Christian in that they violate God’s purpose for us. He lists "Thou shall nots" against sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery, idolatry and witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissentions, factions, envy, drunkenness, orgies and other sins that are "like" these. We could probably think of a number of similar sins and add them to the list. One of these would be adultery. Another would be murder. While these are mentioned in the Ten Commandments and the rest of the Mosaic Law, Christians do not need to rely on their being mentioned in the old covenant. The New Testament "law of Christ" tells us what laws Christians should obey.

Paul’s "Thou shalls" are stated in verses 22 and 23, and include love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Paul concludes by saying: "Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit" (verses 24-25). He wraps up the discussion by relating what he said in verses 19-23 to the fulfilling of "the law of Christ" (6:2). The Ten Commandments do not teach these vital principles in a direct way.

Even by itself, this passage in Galatians would provide a thorough moral guide for our lives and tell us what obedience to God means. But, as mentioned earlier, the New Testament is filled with such instruction. Another example is the book of James, which also tells us how to fulfill God’s law in terms of loving our neighbor as ourselves (James 2:8). Again, here is another reference to one of the two "great laws" of the Law of Moses. Some elements of James’ moral code include: looking after orphans and widows, keeping oneself from being polluted by the world, not showing favoritism, taming the tongue and not indulging in slander or gossip, avoiding envy and selfish ambition, not being a "friend of the world," resisting the devil, praying in faith and being patient.

If you add all the principles and commandments in the New Testament about how Christians are to live, you will have a rather complete understanding of the "law of Christ." This will provide a more than adequate moral and spiritual guide to help us understand how to love God and human beings.

In conclusion, the New Testament gives us the moral and spiritual guide we need in order to serve God. What we should notice about this guide is that it nowhere commands Christians to keep the ceremonial and sacrificial regulations that are limited to the old covenant Law of Moses. For example, there is no New Testament command for Christians to keep the weekly or annual Sabbaths as "holy time." These were part of the old covenant Law of Moses, which is "done away," replaced by the New Testament and new covenant "law of Christ."
 
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these are strong points you make. to alligator big two posts


however, simple blindness via religion missed, this change.
Matthew 3: John the Baptist Prepares the Way
1 In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea,2 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."


oral repent of sin.


the teacher of law and pharasees, were saying go to the temple with an animal, for the forgivness of sin.

can you see the confusion caused to a jewish religion, or nation. etc

instant divition.


 
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KohenMatt said:
215 Leviticus 19:19 - Not to sow diverse kinds of seed in one field, kalayim.
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.


We can't be double minded. We can't feed both the Spirit and our flesh.

Matthew 13:24-30
Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field.25 But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away.26 But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also.27 The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’28 And he said to them, ‘An enemy has done this!’ The slaves *said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’29 But he *said, ‘No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them.30 Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
To me it's about holiness, about in this world but not of this world.
Lot chose to live near Sodom and Gomorrah. Abram went to live near the great trees of Mamre at Hebron, where he built an altar to the Lord.
Paul said: "do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is here between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols?"
 
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these are strong points you make. to alligator big two posts


however, simple blindness via religion missed, this change.
Matthew 3: John the Baptist Prepares the Way
1 In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea,2 "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."


oral repent of sin.


the teacher of law and pharasees, were saying go to the temple with an animal, for the forgivness of sin.

can you see the confusion caused to a jewish religion, or nation. etc

instant divition.


should read ,division.
 
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chubbena

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While out on an errand I realized one part of my earlier post may be misconstrued due to my own ambiguity, but I assure all, I believe the same as always. Of course the laws of punishment and death are replaced by mercy, but commandments on decent behavior and righteousness are not. I can see how my wording could have been misconstrued, but not by any who already are aware of my stance on obedience under grace.
I would say the laws of punishment and death were fulfilled by the sacrifice of the Christ because of the love of God to mankind. The laws of punishment and death is still valid against those who do not believe in the Son. They also still valid against those who deliberating keep on sinning :)
 
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Kerry has a habit of throwing out the "You can't be saved through the Law" question/accusation, and then never saying addressing it again when someone calls him on it.
We are indeed saved through the Law in the sense that one could not be punished beyond what's deserved and that the wage of sin is death and death penalty it is on the Son of God who bore the sin of the world so whoever believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
The Law defines the Creator's character which is righteous and love.
 
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Some people can not grasp with understanding the truth that is set before them because they have a partial vail over their heart when the OT is read.

There are those that refuse what the following passage says and by doing so they reject the revelation of the Spirit and that is not being led or walking in the Spirit of truth when they do this.

2 Cor 3:11-18
11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
If only one realizes Paul believes everything that agrees with the law and that is written in the Prophets perhaps he would not pull verses out of his letters to speak against the truth.
 
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I would say the laws of punishment and death were fulfilled by the sacrifice of the Christ because of the love of God to mankind. The laws of punishment and death is still valid against those who do not believe in the Son. They also still valid against those who deliberating keep on sinning :)
The Promise Realized Through Faith
13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.14 For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void.15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring---not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,17 as it is written, "I have made you the father of many nations"---in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.18 In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, "So shall your offspring be."19 He did not weaken in faith when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness of Sarah's womb.20 No distrust made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God,21 fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised.22 That is why his faith was "counted to him as righteousness."23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. romans 4.

29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. gal 3

yes or no answer.
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all

 
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The Promise Realized Through Faith
13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.14 For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void.15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring---not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all,17 as it is written, "I have made you the father of many nations"---in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.18 In hope he believed against hope, that he should become the father of many nations, as he had been told, "So shall your offspring be."19 He did not weaken in faith when he considered his own body, which was as good as dead (since he was about a hundred years old), or when he considered the barrenness of Sarah's womb.20 No distrust made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God,21 fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised.22 That is why his faith was "counted to him as righteousness."23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. romans 4.

29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. gal 3

yes or no answer.
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all

Only when one misses Hebrews 10:26-29 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace.

....and post#788
 
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Only when one misses Hebrews 10:26-29 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace.

....and post#788
gentile or jewish. christain. saved by grace a gift.

full temple or no temple. law.
22 And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.23
Revelation 21
 
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gentile or jewish. christain. saved by grace a gift.

full temple or no temple. law.
22 And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb.23
Revelation 21
The gift is trashed when one deliberately keeps on sinning.
 

JaumeJ

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This teaching is from the Word, and it is a hard lesson. Most people fear this lesson very much causign them to prefer to hide their heads in the sand.

I have good news for all, yes, we do sin after we are saved by the Blood of the Lamb, however any who feel remorse are suffering as did Paul who though he was alive because of Jesus Christ, he yet did the very thing he hated.

You have remorse it is the Holy Spirit conviciting you, and you repent because of this remorse. The lesson is for any and all who yield to evil and sin after knowing Jesus Christ is Salvation.

No one need hide behind mercy, for you have mercy in your faith because of Jesus Christ, but to not think or teach others that any who sin as a way of life as a believer are going to be free of the wrath of God, for this is recrucifying our Lord.

You sin? I love you, and would rather you not sin. If I can say this in truth, God is better than any of us, even than I! Hard to believe, tut it is true.

When we know mercy, we extend it to all who truly want mercy, in this instance forgiveness. Again, our Head is Jesus Christ. Hope leads to the gift of faith, and love. Let us use all three of these gifts, first with each other in the family and then with those who are yet in darkness, amen.
 

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All who are saved by the Blood of the Lamb of God are worhippers in the faith of Abraham, having been transformed as living stones of the Temple of God with Jesus Christ as the Chief and the Corner Stone. He will return to build His Temple, and guess what the walls are composed of!
 

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In conclusion, the New Testament gives us the moral and spiritual guide we need in order to serve God. What we should notice about this guide is that it nowhere commands Christians to keep the ceremonial and sacrificial regulations that are limited to the old covenant Law of Moses. For example, there is no New Testament command for Christians to keep the weekly or annual Sabbaths as "holy time." These were part of the old covenant Law of Moses, which is "done away," replaced by the New Testament and new covenant "law of Christ."
Interesting you call the Feast days part of the Old Covenant Law of Moses...

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Who is speaking here? The One who became Jesus Christ.

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Who's Feasts are they? The Feasts of the LORD, the One who became Jesus Christ.

Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Now if your Bible says the Sabbath of Moses or the Sabbath of the Jews, return it and get your money back. It contains misprints.

Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

Who's Feasts? The Feasts of the Eternal, the One who became Jesus Christ.

Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.

Who's Passover? The LORD's.

Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Who is doing the speaking here? The One who became Jesus Christ.

Lev 23:23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Same question, same answer.

Lev 23:26 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Same question, same answer.

Lev 23:33 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Ditto.

Lev 23:37 These are the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:

Lev 23:44 And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.

So after God told Moses what His (God's) Feasts are, Moses told the people.

Now, your opinion, apparently based on something someone told you because it is not scriptural, doesn't hold up too well here.
 

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The gift is trashed when one deliberately keeps on sinning.
so, I'm pondering this situation here... from my past experience, talking with believers who also want to obey the law, my impression was that they make great effort at following some parts of the law... minor effort at others... doesn't James say in acts that there are believers who are zealous for the law? is the spirit leading people today to be zealous for all parts of the law they can possibly keep, and build vibrant Christian communities that follow that path? if so, I haven't heard of them... i'd be interested if anyone has info...
 

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1Co 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

Now what night was that?

Luk 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

The Passover. Mentioned again here...

Act 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Strongs:

G3957
πάσχα
pascha
pas'-khah
Of Chaldee origin (compare [H6453]); the Passover (the meal, the day, the festival or the special sacrifices connected with it): - Easter, Passover.

Albert Barnes has this to say...

"Intending after Easter - There never was a more absurd or unhappy translation than this. The original is simply after the Passover (μετὰ τὸ πάσχα meta to pascha. The word “Easter” now denotes the festival observed by many Christian churches in honor of the resurrection of the Saviour. But the original has no reference to that, nor is there the slightest evidence that any such festival was observed at the time when this book was written. The translation is not only unhappy, as it does not convey at all the meaning of the original, but because it may contribute to foster an opinion that such a festival was observed in the time of the apostles. The word “Easter” is of Saxon origin, and is supposed to be derived from “Eostre,” the goddess of Love, or the Venus of the North, in honor of whom a festival was celebrated by our pagan ancestors in the month of April (Webster). Since this festival coincided with the Passover of the Jews, and with the feast observed by Christians in honor of the resurrection of Christ, the name came to be used to denote the latter. In the old Anglo-Saxon service-books the term “Easter” is used frequently to translate the word “Passover.” In the translation by Wycliffe, the word “paske,” that is, “Passover,” is used. But Tyndale and Coverdale used the word “Easter,” and hence, it has very improperly crept into our King James Version."


1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
1Co 5:8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.


Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

Here the Days of Unleavened Bread are pointed out.

1Co 16:8 But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.

Pentecost.



Act 27:9 Now when much time was spent, and when sailing was now dangerous, because the fast was now already past, Paul admonished them,

Referring to Atonement.

Act 18:21 But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

Why was Paul keeping the Feast in Jerusalem?


The ONLY DAYS mentioned in the New Testament are the Feast Days! Now show men xmas and Ishtar in the New Testament.
 
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Brad, are you saying the Gospel given to Abraham was different than the Gospel the same God delivered to us?
The gospel was announced to Abraham, it was not preached to him.

You are aware Christ teaches the faith of Abraham?
Abraham's faith was in the promise of the Redeemer,
which was the announcing of the gospel to him.

All who wish to share the Word must share in spirit and truth.
One cannot do this even partially without recognizing the Law and the Prophets, for they indicate Jesus Christ.
Only the Jews recognized the Law and the Prophets.

The majority of God's people are Gentiles.

They are not saved by preaching the Law and the Prophets,
but by preaching Christ alone.

Jusus Christ's message was not exclusively to Jews, for if that were the case we would not be saved.
And Jesus' message in the words spoken in these last days (Heb 1:1-2)
through the NT writers does not preach the Law of the old covenant,
but grace of the new covenant through faith only in Jesus Christ.

All of the Word is Jesus Christ.
Not all of the word is the new covenant cut in his blood (Lk 22:20).
Those who believe in Jesus Christ are in the new covenant, and
under the law of Christ, (Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:21; Gal 5:6),
not under the old covenant and the Law.