What is the COVENANT of Daniel 9:27?
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we are His people, you and I, we are His city, His nation. 1 Peter 2,
[h=3]The Chosen Stone and His Chosen People[/h]4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,
“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”[b]
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,[c]
“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”[d]
8 and
“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”[e]
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who oncewere not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
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[h=3]The Chosen Stone and His Chosen People[/h]4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,
“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”[b]
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,[c]
“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”[d]
8 and
“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”[e]
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who oncewere not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
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lol. I am saved. so does not matter to me.
What it will matter to is the people living at the time. as it is a signs things are about to happen.
Which is what prophesy does. It is not up for us to say how or when, It is up to us to say God said it will happen, I trust him, so however and whenever it happens does not matter.
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Yep. But there are certain promises God made to certain people which I am not a part of. I can not discount these promises, OPr claim God is not going to keep them.
What does this have to do with what God said WILL happen? do we discount the things God said? Why would God say, Thes things will happen. When they are NOT going to happen?
Again, Prophesy is not like a parable. Parables are God speaking in allegorical forms to prove a spiritual point. Prophesy is God saying this will happen. So when people see the things happen. They can KNOW he is God.
What does this have to do with what God said WILL happen? do we discount the things God said? Why would God say, Thes things will happen. When they are NOT going to happen?
Again, Prophesy is not like a parable. Parables are God speaking in allegorical forms to prove a spiritual point. Prophesy is God saying this will happen. So when people see the things happen. They can KNOW he is God.
Well I guess for some it's one way to get through a Monday, lol.
I agree with you, it's a non salvational issue. I just wish that the preterists would not tell the lost that there's no future tribulation or Antichrist. I've seen two members do this on here. There are times when you need to keep it to yourself.
Though it's non salvational, when someone aligns themselves with a particular camp or theology it dramatically affects the way they view all the scriptures. They only see the scriptures based on their chosen view and it leads to twisting and manipulating almost every scripture until the bible becomes one big confusing mess.
It's clear to me that this 70AD is hanging on that one verse. They need verse 27 to be Jesus and that's where one's view sadly becomes a priority over the scriptures.
Hymenaeus and Philetus showed signs of being (full) preterists. They were mentioned in 2 Timothy 2. Their message would spread like cancer.
I agree with you, it's a non salvational issue. I just wish that the preterists would not tell the lost that there's no future tribulation or Antichrist. I've seen two members do this on here. There are times when you need to keep it to yourself.
Though it's non salvational, when someone aligns themselves with a particular camp or theology it dramatically affects the way they view all the scriptures. They only see the scriptures based on their chosen view and it leads to twisting and manipulating almost every scripture until the bible becomes one big confusing mess.
It's clear to me that this 70AD is hanging on that one verse. They need verse 27 to be Jesus and that's where one's view sadly becomes a priority over the scriptures.
Hymenaeus and Philetus showed signs of being (full) preterists. They were mentioned in 2 Timothy 2. Their message would spread like cancer.
The seventy weeks of Daniel have been fulfilled in AD70: Temple destroyed
Zech 14: starting from verse is still future. No temple.
Why not provide biblical support to your claim
Again, please provide biblical support to your claim.
In the context, it is the son of perdition???
The Woman is at war with Satan. That is correct but nowhere in the whole passage can you find the son of perdition: ITs ALL IN YOUR MIND...
Biblically after the War with the woman, the Dragon make war with the remnant of her seed
Rev 12:17 And thedragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of herseed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of JesusChrist.
Read the next chapter: Talking about the beast/son of Perdition/AntiChrist
Rev 13:2 and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and greatauthority.
Rev 13:7 And it wasgiven unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power wasgiven him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
You see the Difference:
rev 12 - Satan/the Dragon is at war with the Woman/ The woman flee then Satan chase her REMNANT.
Then;
Rev 13 - Satan GAVE his power,seat and authority to the Beast/AntiChrist/son of Perdition and will be at war with the saints.
[QUOTE]lol. In order for their to be an abomination which makes desolate. there must be a third temple[/QUOTE]
The Abomination of Desolation took place in AD 70, where the temple was still there.
I just noticed, for a male profile, you respond like a female.
[QUOTE]In order for Christ to have a temple with which to rule from in his kingdom. there must be a thrid temple.[/QUOTE]
Biblical support please.
on the contrary:
Zec_6:12 And speakunto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whosename is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall buildthe temple of the LORD:
You not only interpret, you also ADD.
having said that, why not post at least one passage and let us discussed.
In Daniel 9:26-27: Daniel spoke of Abomination and Desolation relating to the destruction of temple (If you can consider that)
in Luke 21 , Luke understand the abomination spoken of Daniel (as with Matthew 24, and Mark 13) relating it to the besieging of Jerusalem...(the destruction of Jerusalem/Temple in AD 70)
You just don't want to accept it.
After that DESOLATION up until 1948
Again, You show lack of understanding. If God did not protect the Jews, there would be no Jews left. God always have remnant of his people.
The abomination in luke 21, Mat 24, mARK 13 took place in AD 70.
The rise of the beast however of rev 13 is still future.
The Muslim worship allah
The hindu's worship many gods:
and many religion worship other gods
It was the same back then it will be same in the future:
new religion, new gods.
the Beast will be worship, and it is like what happening today, with other religions.
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LOL
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"That is just too funny!"
Replace 'Jesus' with 'Antichrist', and you have a perfect illustration of the "pre-trib rapture, 7-year tribulation, temple-will-be-rebuilt, sacrifices-will-be-reinstated-and-then-stopped-by-the-Antichrist" view -- which hangs very heavily on [ the misinterpretation of ] this one verse.
"Properly understand this verse, in the context of the passage, and the whole "pre-trib rapture, 7-year tribulation" view crumbles..."
BTW - I am not a preterist. I believe that there still exists prophecy to be fulfilled in the future. Only, Daniel 9:24-27 is not one of them - I believe that it has all been fulfilled. ( with exception to a single phrase - see below )
Daniel 9:
[SUP]24[/SUP] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [SUP]25[/SUP] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [SUP]26[/SUP] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [SUP]27[/SUP] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
These things were fulfilled at / during the First Coming of Christ.
These things were fulfilled at / around 70 A.D.
This is referring to "the finishing of all things" - which is, essentially, at the Second Coming of Christ.
Please see post #211 in this thread.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"That is just too funny!"
Replace 'Jesus' with 'Antichrist', and you have a perfect illustration of the "pre-trib rapture, 7-year tribulation, temple-will-be-rebuilt, sacrifices-will-be-reinstated-and-then-stopped-by-the-Antichrist" view -- which hangs very heavily on [ the misinterpretation of ] this one verse.
"Properly understand this verse, in the context of the passage, and the whole "pre-trib rapture, 7-year tribulation" view crumbles..."
BTW - I am not a preterist. I believe that there still exists prophecy to be fulfilled in the future. Only, Daniel 9:24-27 is not one of them - I believe that it has all been fulfilled. ( with exception to a single phrase - see below )
Daniel 9:
[SUP]24[/SUP] Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. [SUP]25[/SUP] Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. [SUP]26[/SUP] And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. [SUP]27[/SUP] And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
These things were fulfilled at / during the First Coming of Christ.
These things were fulfilled at / around 70 A.D.
This is referring to "the finishing of all things" - which is, essentially, at the Second Coming of Christ.
Please see post #211 in this thread.
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non of this is worth responding to.
Your attack on the way I respond, calling it like a woman has destroyed any credability you might even add.
Your whole basis is that 70 AD is the fulfillment. Mine is on the fact that it was not. You ask me to prove something. Yet in my interpretation it is proven.
which makes me re0iterate the fact. No matter what proof I would show. you would not believe me. Instead you would continue to attack me, you know?? with things like
It makes me wonder why people like you get so angry you have to resort to low blows and attacks? are you so insecure in your belief you have nothing better to do? Either way, All this does for people like me is go further from your belief.
God temporarily set aside Israel as His chosen people. They are His ancient earthly people today but not His chosen people.
During the present age, God has a new people—the church.
This Church Age forms a parenthesis in God's dealings with Israel.
When the parenthesis is closed, that is, when the church is caught away to heaven, God will resume His dealings with Israel.
Then a believing portion of the nation will become God's people again.
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uh....no.
there is nothing like that in the Bible whatsoever.
nothing.
During the present age, God has a new people—the church.
This Church Age forms a parenthesis in God's dealings with Israel.
When the parenthesis is closed, that is, when the church is caught away to heaven, God will resume His dealings with Israel.
Then a believing portion of the nation will become God's people again.
.....
uh....no.
there is nothing like that in the Bible whatsoever.
nothing.
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No, I can not consider this.
Daniel FIRST spoke of the destruction of the temple and city. The abomination he spoke of occured AFTER the destruction.
order of events.
“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
The is the first order of events.
1. The destruction
2. The city and temple left desolate until a time determined.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
These events occure AFTER the wars and desolations are determined. Not at the same time.
Your time line is off, and I can not in good faith twist it to make it be the same.
1. Luke did not in any way think this. this is just your opinion.
2. Luke understood jesus was talking about the "end" In fact he tells us many thing must come to place first. but even then the end is not near. What are these things??
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore[SUP][b][/SUP] do not go after them. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.
As you see. Before these things take place. Nations will rise against nations. Kingdoms will rise against kingdoms.
This did not happen before 70 AD. it could not have happened. There was only 1 kingdom from the time of this writing and that was rome. Yes some nations rose against rome in the next 40 years. But that is not what Luke was saying, And even if you decree it was. Jesus said the end would not be yet. It was just the warning.
These things have been happening since ad 70. Look at all the nations who have risen against nations, and all the kingdoms that have risen against kingdoms in the last 2000 years. Just like Luke (and mathew) recorded they would.
so 70 AD can't be it. It was just the begining of the things Jesus said would happen. not the end..
But as you said, you do not want to see this.
Yes, the desolation of the city has been up till 1948, But it is still desolate. Islam has deolated the city, and is still desolating the city. The end of desolations is still in effect. Thus the end is not near.
No, your the one who has a lack of understanding. The protection God promised was for all of them. How many jews died at the hand of the third riech of germany? According to rev 12. The woam will be completely protected. Not partially.
The abomination did not happen in 70 AD. Or else the return of Christ would have already occured. Unless you want to believe Jesus commited the abomination, Because the prince is the one who commits the abomination.
if this prince is Christ. then how and when did he abominate the temple?
But you do not want to see this
Daniel FIRST spoke of the destruction of the temple and city. The abomination he spoke of occured AFTER the destruction.
order of events.
“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
The is the first order of events.
1. The destruction
2. The city and temple left desolate until a time determined.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
These events occure AFTER the wars and desolations are determined. Not at the same time.
Your time line is off, and I can not in good faith twist it to make it be the same.
1. Luke did not in any way think this. this is just your opinion.
2. Luke understood jesus was talking about the "end" In fact he tells us many thing must come to place first. but even then the end is not near. What are these things??
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore[SUP][b][/SUP] do not go after them. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But when you hear of wars and commotions, do not be terrified; for these things must come to pass first, but the end will not come immediately.”
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. [SUP]11 [/SUP]And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.
As you see. Before these things take place. Nations will rise against nations. Kingdoms will rise against kingdoms.
This did not happen before 70 AD. it could not have happened. There was only 1 kingdom from the time of this writing and that was rome. Yes some nations rose against rome in the next 40 years. But that is not what Luke was saying, And even if you decree it was. Jesus said the end would not be yet. It was just the warning.
These things have been happening since ad 70. Look at all the nations who have risen against nations, and all the kingdoms that have risen against kingdoms in the last 2000 years. Just like Luke (and mathew) recorded they would.
so 70 AD can't be it. It was just the begining of the things Jesus said would happen. not the end..
But as you said, you do not want to see this.
Yes, the desolation of the city has been up till 1948, But it is still desolate. Islam has deolated the city, and is still desolating the city. The end of desolations is still in effect. Thus the end is not near.
No, your the one who has a lack of understanding. The protection God promised was for all of them. How many jews died at the hand of the third riech of germany? According to rev 12. The woam will be completely protected. Not partially.
The abomination did not happen in 70 AD. Or else the return of Christ would have already occured. Unless you want to believe Jesus commited the abomination, Because the prince is the one who commits the abomination.
if this prince is Christ. then how and when did he abominate the temple?
But you do not want to see this
Jeremiah 12:15
But after I uproot them, I will again have compassion and will bring each of them back to their own inheritance and their own country.
Jeremiah 29:10
This is what the LORD says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place.
Daniel 9
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Amos 9:11
"In that day I will restore David's fallen shelter-- I will repair its broken walls and restore its ruins-- and will rebuild it as it used to be
Acts 15
The Council at Jerusalem
6The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. 7And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. 8And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, 9and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. 10Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? 11But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.”
12And all the assembly fell silent, and they listened to Barnabas and Paul as they related what signs and wonders God had done through them among the Gentiles. 13After they finished speaking, James replied, “Brothers, listen to me. 14Simeon has related how God first visited the Gentiles, to take from them a people for his name. 15And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written,
16 “‘After this I will return,
and I will rebuild the tent of David that has fallen;
I will rebuild its ruins,
and I will restore it,
17 that the remnant of mankind may seek the Lord,
and all the Gentiles who are called by my name,
says the Lord, who makes these things 18known from of old.’
Luke 21
The Destruction of Jerusalem
21"Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; 22because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.
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what it does not say:
"When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place. but you'll be blinded for 2000 years so i'll scatter you again ....then after the gentile age is over (and maybe raptured), I will come to you again and fulfill my good promise to bring you back to this place...again.
I believe it is a 7 years period that is known as Jacob's trouble,which God will turn the Jews hearts to the truth at that time.
The previous verse talks about the prince to come will come from the Roman Empire who overthrew Jerusalem in 70 A.D. which the Bible says the antichrist,the little horn,comes from the 10 horns which come from the Roman Empire.
In the next verse it is still talking about the prince to come and that he will spread abominations on earth and that is because he is a nature worshipper that believes in tapping in to nature for power,which the Bible says he will cause craft,or witchcraft,to prosper in his hands,which during the beast system his kingdom will be all about man with no governmental or religious authority above them and man can tap in to nature for power.
Because he will spread this witchcraft and nature worship ways throughout the earth God will put down their kingdom.
This 7 years have not happened yet for the world has never come together as the beast system in Revelation.
The previous verse talks about the prince to come will come from the Roman Empire who overthrew Jerusalem in 70 A.D. which the Bible says the antichrist,the little horn,comes from the 10 horns which come from the Roman Empire.
In the next verse it is still talking about the prince to come and that he will spread abominations on earth and that is because he is a nature worshipper that believes in tapping in to nature for power,which the Bible says he will cause craft,or witchcraft,to prosper in his hands,which during the beast system his kingdom will be all about man with no governmental or religious authority above them and man can tap in to nature for power.
Because he will spread this witchcraft and nature worship ways throughout the earth God will put down their kingdom.
This 7 years have not happened yet for the world has never come together as the beast system in Revelation.
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lol Nice try!
Jeremiah's 70 years was almost up. Daniel understood this. Which is WHY he said the prayer. He knew his people were still in sin, and Was praying for Gods mercy to still keep his promise EVEN though his people were still in sin.
Gods answer.
70 weeks are determined for your people.
In these 70 weeks
1. At the end or completion of the 69 week, Messiah will get cut off.
2. This will be followed by the destruction of the city and temple. WHich will lie in ruins and desolation until the war desolation are determined. (which history proves is going un even until this day)
3. Some prince will confirm some covenant for a week (seven years) but in the middle of the week, that same prince will commit the abomination. Which will continue until the consumation of something is poured out on the desolate. (we know by looking later in Jesus words. that this time period will be called the tribulation) which is a short time period
4. At the end of this. Something will happen. which will fulfill the 70 weeks of daniel.
what will happen?
again we look at other passages and prophesy.
1. Israel will be completely restored. Northern and southern kingdom
2. Israel will no longer be commiting her abomination and playing the harlot
3. Israel will not longer be commiting her transgressions against God
4. Israel will have "put an end to her sin"
5. The city and its glory will be restored.
etc etc.
Non of this happened in AD 70.
THE CHURCH DID NOT REPLACE ISRAEL. This is a ROMAN catholic lie. and is part of the babylonian mystery. which unfortunately many of the protestants took with them.
Jeremiah's 70 years was almost up. Daniel understood this. Which is WHY he said the prayer. He knew his people were still in sin, and Was praying for Gods mercy to still keep his promise EVEN though his people were still in sin.
Gods answer.
70 weeks are determined for your people.
In these 70 weeks
1. At the end or completion of the 69 week, Messiah will get cut off.
2. This will be followed by the destruction of the city and temple. WHich will lie in ruins and desolation until the war desolation are determined. (which history proves is going un even until this day)
3. Some prince will confirm some covenant for a week (seven years) but in the middle of the week, that same prince will commit the abomination. Which will continue until the consumation of something is poured out on the desolate. (we know by looking later in Jesus words. that this time period will be called the tribulation) which is a short time period
4. At the end of this. Something will happen. which will fulfill the 70 weeks of daniel.
what will happen?
again we look at other passages and prophesy.
1. Israel will be completely restored. Northern and southern kingdom
2. Israel will no longer be commiting her abomination and playing the harlot
3. Israel will not longer be commiting her transgressions against God
4. Israel will have "put an end to her sin"
5. The city and its glory will be restored.
etc etc.
Non of this happened in AD 70.
THE CHURCH DID NOT REPLACE ISRAEL. This is a ROMAN catholic lie. and is part of the babylonian mystery. which unfortunately many of the protestants took with them.
so the 69 weeks were actual period of 7 years, but the last week is a super-long week.
or hasn't happened yet.
the period was 490 years.
why didn't God say a really really long time?
He said 490 years.
He didn't say there was a gap.
Titus was the prince.
done
i'd love to post the 70AD pic, but i'll be ridiculed.
read about it here:
Siege of Jerusalem (70) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
or hasn't happened yet.
the period was 490 years.
why didn't God say a really really long time?
He said 490 years.
He didn't say there was a gap.
Titus was the prince.
done
i'd love to post the 70AD pic, but i'll be ridiculed.
read about it here:
Siege of Jerusalem (70) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
both kingdoms were present during Christ's First Advent.
we've been through this. the prophets make it clear - representatives of; members from all tribes; ALL Israel (the remnant who returned) were in the Land when Jesus came.
the northern kingdom is not LOST.
Jesus came for them...and found them.
right?
we've been through this. the prophets make it clear - representatives of; members from all tribes; ALL Israel (the remnant who returned) were in the Land when Jesus came.
the northern kingdom is not LOST.
Jesus came for them...and found them.
right?