brightfame52 said:
They have been eternally delivered from the penalty of sin which is death. Now you deny this !
Quit ignoring the point, brightfame52.
Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [for us].
I do not deny that verse. The Lord Jesus Christ obtained eternal redemption. Period.
The words "for us" were added to the text. The verse reads as follows:
Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption.
Now, you want to include the words "for us" in order to manipulate the text to mean something never intended by the Author of Scripture? That is on you and I do not have to go there with you.
I will read the verse as intended by the Author and I absolutely believe the Lord Jesus Christ entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption. Period.
Here is the verse as it appears in various versions ...
New International Version:
Hebrews 9:12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption.
English Standard Version:
Hebrews 9:12 he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.
King James Version:
Hebrews 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [for us] the words appear in italics in the KJV to alert the reader that the words were added by the translators.
New King James Version:
Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.
New American Standard Bible:
Hebrews 9:12 and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all time, having obtained eternal redemption.
American Standard Version:
Hebrews 9:12 nor yet through the blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered in once for all into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption.
English Revised Version:
Hebrews 9:12 nor yet through the blood of goats and calves, but through his own blood, entered in once for all into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption.
International Standard Version:
Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with his own blood he went into the Most Holy Place once for all and secured our eternal redemption.
.