WHY DOESN'T GOD HEAL EVERYONE?

[Demi777]

My experience so far...

God can heal anyone at anytime. Sometimes our faith or so maymake it seem like it happened at our demand..but in fact the more I see God in my life the more I see that he is just unpredictable.

When my mother had a paralyzed leg, doctors told her that she will never walk and have children. She believed them over God but a missionary took her to church where there was a prophetic work that she will be healed and she was prayed over and anointed with oil. she still didnt really believe it because she was still in crutches.
Multiple days later suddenly she could walk. She still has problems in that leg, having pains and problems, BUT she has two children and still can walk until this day.
Now God could have healed her that she gets no more pain or problems with that leg, but she does. Nobody knows why God didnt do more, or why he did it at all.

Me having been healed of fibromyalgia after 2 years begging and commanding one day suddenly it was gone.


3rd story here. My mom had close christian friends whose wife had cancer. He got a dream from God where she was healed and happy. He truly believed she would be healed. But God took her home instead
Summary... God can....he does...u just never know why when and how.

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

where does he say he is limiting God blue?

I don't see it...I though his post was pretty good and sensible

could you point out that out please?

I liked his post too.

 

[7seasrekeyed]

I think this should answer your question

Psalm 18:1-50
Psalm 31:1-24
2nd Corinthians 12:1-21
Romans 8:1-39
Matthew 25:1-46

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-18/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-31/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Corinthians-Chapter-12/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-8/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-25/
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Could you see God's light with out first being in darkness?
Could you know God's love with out knowing hate and persicution?
Could you write uplifting and inspiring poems and songs with out being down and discouraged?
Could you give instruction and wisdom with out first learning through trials and tribulations?
Could you see the promise land with out going through the valley of the shadow of death?

Read Ecclesiasties 3:1-22, 4:1-16, 7:1-29 & 12,1-14
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecclesiastes-Chapter-3/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecclesiastes-Chapter-4/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecclesiastes-Chapter-7/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ecclesiastes-Chapter-12/

God has a reason for everything, everything works together for good to them that love him and are the called according to his purpose. we arn't always meant to know why, we just have to trust him, love him and do what he says. It's through weakness he shows his strength, our weaknesses are his strengths.

Hope this helped.

that is just what most of us are saying here

we know

we believe

we have faith

that God can and does heal

some of us have experienced it

we are rejecting the WOF doctrine of 'if you are not healed that means you do not have enough faith'

I think you got that though

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You rock sister!

I'm going to respond to your post because I am truly disgusted at what I read from Lance's post, and might say something I'll regret.

Trying to tie in the unbelief of those in Nazareth of WHO Jesus is, the Messiah, with us NOT having belief in Jesus, AND HIS ABILITY TO HEAL US, couched in condescension, is infuriating!! Which BTW Jesus did heal some people! (His Will AGAIN)
And then to say "if they don't get healed it's the Human's fault" is almost a bannable insult!


All the while using the exact excuse I said he would. That other people aren't healed because they have no faith, but HE can't heal, NOT BECAUSE he lacks faith, even though Jesus says faith as a mustard seed can move a mountain, but because he wasn't given the gift of healing!

Alright. Time to step away. Sorry for getting worked up.

ahh no problem

I was pretty steamed yesterday and truly flabbergasted at the 'well I can't pray for healing because I don't have that gift'

Jesus said we should always pray and not faint

I guess when your world has to consist of miraculous super-duper goosebumps-are-us prophetic utterances every 5 minutes and gold glitter and feathers, 'common' prayer is just well....too humbling

I don't know if I rock though...I may have had to dodge a few

 

[7seasrekeyed]

My experience so far...

God can heal anyone at anytime. Sometimes our faith or so maymake it seem like it happened at our demand..but in fact the more I see God in my life the more I see that he is just unpredictable.

When my mother had a paralyzed leg, doctors told her that she will never walk and have children. She believed them over God but a missionary took her to church where there was a prophetic work that she will be healed and she was prayed over and anointed with oil. she still didnt really believe it because she was still in crutches.
Multiple days later suddenly she could walk. She still has problems in that leg, having pains and problems, BUT she has two children and still can walk until this day.
Now God could have healed her that she gets no more pain or problems with that leg, but she does. Nobody knows why God didnt do more, or why he did it at all.

Me having been healed of fibromyalgia after 2 years begging and commanding one day suddenly it was gone.


3rd story here. My mom had close christian friends whose wife had cancer. He got a dream from God where she was healed and happy. He truly believed she would be healed. But God took her home instead
Summary... God can....he does...u just never know why when and how.

I think what you are saying here is God is God

I find sometimes at my very lowest, God bends down in ways I could not think of to cause me to look up

we do not have Him all figured out and we don't have to...He does not ask us to

it's not about special words or believing the sun is out at midnight (unless you live at the North Pole) and insisting it is out especially if it isn't

yes...God can and does heal

 

[Depleted]

The Bible tells us why some aren't healed, but if you talk about it people get mad at you.
1. Unbelief - "6 But he must ask in faith, without doubting, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 That man should not expect to receive anything from the Lord."(James 1:6,7) Some people will bash me for saying this, but the Bible clearly tells us that unbelief can hinder us from receiving from God.
2. Sin - "19 By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; 20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything. 21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; 22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him." (I John 3:19-22) Just as with #1, people don't want to hear this but we have to abide by God's moral code in order to ask in faith.3. Strife - "Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered." (I Peter 3:7)
4. Not Discerning the Lord's Body - "27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died." (I Cor. 11:27-30) We can fail to discern the Lord's body through not respectfully observing communion, or by not showing love toward the brethren, or by not realizing that the Lord bore our sicknesses along with our sins on the cross.
5. Ignorance (about how faith works or God's will in healing) - "6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..." (Hosea 4:6) The more we learn about our rights and privileges as children of God and how faith works the better we'll be equipped to appropriate by faith what God has provided for us.
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

Which reason was Timothy sick? And why didn't Paul tell him his problem? (1 Tim. 5:23)

 

[Depleted]

The first thing the Believer should know and understand is that every single thing we receive from God, and I mean everything, and I speak of Salvation, the Baptism with the Holy Spirit, Divine Healing, answers to prayer, financial prosperity, communion with the Lord, etc., all and without question are made possible by the Cross. Christ and the Cross must without fail ever be the Object of our Faith. The entirety of the Bible is the Story of Jesus Christ and Him Crucified (John 1:1-2, 14, 29). If the Object of Faith of the Believer doesn't remain exclusively in the Cross of Christ, it will be faith that God cannot recognize that is called nebulous faith. Your understanding will be muddled!

My salvation is not from two pieces of wood hanging. Nothing muddled there.

 

[Depleted]

I'm not going to get into it with you as we have in the past. We know how that ends. I just want to draw attention to the words I put in bold in your post. Is that okay? Why wasn't it a big surprise? I'd like to post another post of yours...



You tell me why it doesn't work, when it was administered and you don't "put much stock into laying on healing?" I am simply asking you to reevaluate your perspective, and experience due to such a perspective.

If I didn't believe touching Jesus' garment could heal me, I wouldn't bother reaching out and grabbing it. Likewise, why be prayed for, have hands laid on me (for healing), if I don't put much stock into it? Why go through the motions?

I don't really want to go into it Blue, I am just pointing some stuff out.

God bless.

Sounds cute and pompousy, but you have yet to answer the obvious question.

Lazarus coming back to life? Bet that was the biggest surprise he ever got. How did that work, since he had absolutely no faith in being raised from the dead?

Going to keep ignoring that one? I'm going to keep asking.

You really don't want to answer because you're too busy ignoring it to keep your Benology.

 

[stonesoffire]

ahh no problem

I was pretty steamed yesterday and truly flabbergasted at the 'well I can't pray for healing because I don't have that gift'

Jesus said we should always pray and not faint

I guess when your world has to consist of miraculous super-duper goosebumps-are-us prophetic utterances every 5 minutes and gold glitter and feathers, 'common' prayer is just well....too humbling

I don't know if I rock though...I may have had to dodge a few

You are not stating what PennEd was asking. He was asking for one who believes that God heals to go and heal these friends or children of his friends.

Anyone can pray over another. But, for me to know that God will heal by demand, I don't have faith in demanding Godbtondo anything. Nor have I the gift of healing. You misrepresent my words.

Plus, I believe I'm responsible only to do what Holy Spirit leads me to, not what PennEd or anyone else challenges.

I said all these things. Your hearing is bias.

 

[stonesoffire]

Which reason was Timothy sick? And why didn't Paul tell him his problem? (1 Tim. 5:23)

Paul told him to take a little wine for his stomach, and for all other ailments if my memory is right. Perhaps he was telling him to take the cup of communion?

 

[Depleted]

It was several years ago, in the 90's when I was a member of the mormon church. As usual, I was having back troubles, and the elders both prayed over me and laid on hands. Some 20- something years later, I STILL have back problems. I haven't been healed of it, nor have my seizures been healed.

You may not directly say to people that they don't have enough faith to be healed, but you definitely allude to it, rather often. In fact, you alluded to it just now, by saying "if I didn't believe"... Implying that either I don't, or don't have enough. And you are right, it IS insulting to say that to someone. In fact, it ticks me off..

You ask why I went through the motions of having hands laid on? Well, for one I was desperate. And in severe pain. Have you ever been in so much **** pain that you can't even move? Well, I was. And many days, still am. But you know what, I have no choice but to bite the bullet and get up and move...

That was the very first, AND LAST, time that I ever/will ever have hands laid on for healing. i wasn't sure what to expect, whether it would be gradual or instantaneous. Turns out, it didn't work any way.. Maybe for some it does, for ME it didn't. So I don't need to "reevaluate" anything.

Are you sitting down? If you're not, you might want to sit down before reading the next paragraph.

The 1990s was not "several years ago." I know. I know. It feels like a couple of years ago to me. But people have been born and become adults since then. Including Ben.

(BTW, I think the 1980s was "several years ago." All in the perspective. lol)

 

[7seasrekeyed]

Paul told him to take a little wine for his stomach, and for all other ailments if my memory is right. Perhaps he was telling him to take the cup of communion?

or perhaps not

here we go again with your ADDING to scripture to make it FIT your beliefs

you believe healing comes with the taking of communion...I don't find that far fetched but I find what you say about Timoth far fetched

Paul would not have beat around the bush...certainly not the Paul in the Bible

FYI...this is will be only post regarding this to you

you probably have a bigger arguement with Lynn who will take hold and not let go

I'll leave it to her

 

[Depleted]

Hey that's great Lance. Now since we know many were healed by the FAITH OF THE HEALER and NOT THE FAITH OF THE AFFLICTED, those that were demon possessed for instance, I take it YOU have faith to heal the individuals I spoke of early in this thread?

Or perhaps the truth is YOU get mad when someone calls into question YOUR faith in doing things outside the Will of God!

On the grounds that Ed is speaking of specific people in a specific part of America that finances may dictate the people with Faith cannot go see, I will open this to others that these great people of Faith can heal. If you cannot reach those two, go to your nearest veterans nursing home. A veterans nursing home is not a retirement community. It is a place veterans go when they are too sick to live on their own. The healthy ones are using wheelchairs or walkers. The worse ones are stuck in their rooms. Please, since you have such faith that the rest of us lack, go there. Lots of good men and women can use your special faith.

 

[Depleted]

The bible says that if we have faith the size of a mustard seed, we can do anything. Move a mountain, heal ourselves, heal others, etc etc... SOOOO, how come not one of us has ever moved a mountain or healed ourselves? Hmmmm?

God allows sickness in this mucked up world, and He heals whom He chooses to..

Ummm, because God's will has never been that a mountain never needed to be moved.

And, because I'm not bright enough to even think to ask for healing for myself.

(If you're going to ask the obvious next question, "well try it now," then I can say I have been prayed for and God's answer is a slow reveal on "it's not going to happen for you in this body." lol)

I do believe God does the miracle. I've seen it. I've experienced it. I just don't buy the lie that "it is your strength that makes the miracle."

 

[stonesoffire]

or perhaps not

here we go again with your ADDING to scripture to make it FIT your beliefs

you believe healing comes with the taking of communion...I don't find that far fetched but I find what you say about Timoth far fetched

Paul would not have beat around the bush...certainly not the Paul in the Bible

FYI...this is will be only post regarding this to you

you probably have a bigger arguement with Lynn who will take hold and not let go

I'll leave it to her

why would the teaching of communion by Paul be far fetched in his telling Timothy to take wine?

You said before you weren't going to post to me. You like to be like the football players piling on top, huh?

 

[7seasrekeyed]

You are not stating what PennEd was asking. He was asking for one who believes that God heals to go and heal these friends or children of his friends.

Anyone can pray over another. But, for me to know that God will heal by demand, I don't have faith in demanding Godbtondo anything. Nor have I the gift of healing. You misrepresent my words.

Plus, I believe I'm responsible only to do what Holy Spirit leads me to, not what PennEd or anyone else challenges.

I said all these things. Your hearing is bias.

go fry ice because it will as much effect on your splicing up the word of God as anything else

you obviously were afraid of the challenge and gave some la de dah 'spiritual' explanation that only exists in your 'my feet don't touch the ground when I walk' world

Anyone can pray over another. But, for me to know that God will heal by demand, I don't have faith in demanding Godbtondo anything. Nor have I the gift of healing. You misrepresent my words.

well then stop telling others to have it

if I misrepresented your 'words', then just about everyone else did also so take it up with them

this is my last response to you...I have had you on ignore but responded to you because I started this thread

you deny being NAR or WOF yet you just posted something from Bethel in another thread

please....you are responsible to all of us here because of the wild claims you and several others make

my hearing is excellent and my reading skills are fine

what is really going on, is you flip and change what you say many times over

please remember that I am putting you back on IGNORE . frankly, if you went to most churches I know and you started up with your 'special anointings' and turned people away who needed healing and hoped for prayer? they would call you a fake and frankly, I think your beliefs must be fake ... you see, you believe people must be healed if someone prays...yet most of us see and understand that God hears all prayer

you cannot pray because it exposes the lie in what you and others say

there is enough in this thread that I don't have to respond to your jabs (like you did yesterda) and false visions etc and other excuses that illustrate the holes in your doctrines that I do not have to respond to you...others might

it's a snare to respond to you...you never stop and yet you never prove anything because you go by prophets and visions

that is not the word but it might be a word

 

[Depleted]

I am still waiting for them to go the the hospitals. Or go to the funeral homes. Talk about having a powerful witness to Christ, go in the world like he did.

Of course I think if they could they would.

I am so ingrained into donating my body to science (nothing better than a cadaver for a medical student) or cremation, that when you said "funeral home," I pictured their faith bringing back someone after being cremated. Wow! That would be freaky. lol

 

[7seasrekeyed]

for the record, stones is back on ignore for me so I will not be answering her anymore

 

[Depleted]

I'm beginning to see the warpness of their thinking.

Their answer to your post would be. Others aren't healed because they don't have faith, THEY can't heal not because they lack faith, but because they haven't been given the GIFT OR OFFICE of healing.

I'm truly starting to feel sorry for them through because of the delusion they are in, and would feel it more so if they're doctrine wasn't so dang hurtful!

What's really freaky is it has to be a prophet, but prophets aren't honored in their own country, so there are no prophets to heal.

In which case, why stick with such a desperate belief in healing if absolutely no one can actually heal? Kind of like insisting we can breathe under water if we but have faith, yet living with hydrophobia.

 

[stonesoffire]

go fry ice because it will as much effect on your splicing up the word of God as anything else

you obviously were afraid of the challenge and gave some la de dah 'spiritual' explanation that only exists in your 'my feet don't touch the ground when I walk' world



well then stop telling others to have it

if I misrepresented your 'words', then just about everyone else did also so take it up with them

this is my last response to you...I have had you on ignore but responded to you because I started this thread

you deny being NAR or WOF yet you just posted something from Bethel in another thread

please....you are responsible to all of us here because of the wild claims you and several others make

my hearing is excellent and my reading skills are fine

what is really going on, is you flip and change what you say many times over

please remember that I am putting you back on IGNORE . frankly, if you went to most churches I know and you started up with your 'special anointings' and turned people away who needed healing and hoped for prayer? they would call you a fake and frankly, I think your beliefs must be fake ... you see, you believe people must be healed if someone prays...yet most of us see and understand that God hears all prayer

you cannot pray because it exposes the lie in what you and others say

there is enough in this thread that I don't have to respond to your jabs (like you did yesterda) and false visions etc and other excuses that illustrate the holes in your doctrines that I do not have to respond to you...others might

it's a snare to respond to you...you never stop and yet you never prove anything because you go by prophets and visions

that is not the word but it might be a word

What I believe and have always believed is to do what He says to do. And follow His Spirit. That's the way that Jesus did it. It's as simple as that. And I can identify more with those who believe God wants to heal, rather than those who don't. Or those who aren't sure even. But, am not of Hagin, Copeland, Price, or any others whose names I don't even know who they are.

God does speak to His own. Why would you deny?