WHY DOESN'T GOD HEAL EVERYONE?

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

In Hebrew thought, a mountain is any problem that looms up in ones life. And I explained already mustard seed faith. It cannot be stamped out.

However, we can be lied to. The question is always Hath God said.

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louis said:

This is as single-minded as I can take it.

-- I am absolutely certain God can heal anyone of anything. He can even change blue eyes to brown eyes, if he has a purpose to do that.

-- I am absolutely sure God will not heal if it is against his will to do so.

-- I am absolutely sure most of the times I have asked the Lord to heal, he didn't, so opps. Apparently I was praying against his will.

That said, it surprises me either way -- if God heals or if he doesn't heal. And yet, I have laid hands on people and sometimes they are healed. Once instantly.

And, oh yeah, the boy and I were both shocked when it happened. And we would have been equally as shocked if it didn't happen. We had a good laugh over that. (I think it was the shock on our faces that caused us to laugh.)

Stunnedbygrace · Feb 28, 2018

stonesoffire said:

You aren't getting that we love you and care for you.
The way of the cross is not about new revelations and excitements. It is about picking up your cross and following.

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

eternally-gratefull said:

EG, I know you are a man of His Word. How could you miss this?

18Because of this, the Jews tried all the harder to kill Him. Not only was He breaking the Sabbath, but He was even calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

Jesus said there would come the day we would call God Father, and pray directly to Him, through the name of Jesus. True? Yet, these words that Jesus said, calling God Father made the Jews angry enough to want to kill. Again! The second time in two days I've posted anger towards Him enough to wipe Him out.

19So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.

20The Father loves the Son and shows Him all He does. And to your amazement, He will show Him even greater works than these.

21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom He wishes.

Jesus said that His own would do even greater works. More of us to do them. Am I including myself? Yes. And you too. As led by His Spirit.

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

Stunnedbygrace said:

You misunderstand the Cross of Jesus in our life stunned. I am not dying. I picked up His Cross the day I was born again. That day I died to sin and was raised up in His eternal life. I reckon or believe it to be so daily. Go back and read closer. Better yet, go discuss it with the not by works people.

I appreciate you saying you care. So do I.

Bread isnt stale in the kingdom by the way.

BenFTW · Feb 28, 2018

Stunnedbygrace said:

Likewise, cannot you see that we are not being condemning but trying to reveal to you the assurance and expectation you can have in God for healing? Is this not loving, trying to help the sick to see an avenue for healing?

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7seasrekeyed said:

I didn't see that in what Louis said. Look how many people don't believe in healing because God didn't heal them. If God hasn't healed you, do you even consider praying for others to be healed to the point of being open enough to lay hands?

There really is a lot less healing in my denomination because cessationism is a mainstay, so most assume miracles don't happen and don't pray for one. How can God be glorified in healings if we never ask him to heal?

I think that's what Louis meant. (I also think incorrectly often.)

Deade · Feb 28, 2018

When it comes to healing: I think of the story of the three Jews about to be put to death for their not worshipping the golden image as Nebuchadnezzar commanded.

Dan. 3:16-18: "Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter. If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up."

Certainly God can, nevertheless rather He does or not: I am going to serve Him. God has healed me in the past. God still sees fit to let some things go unhealed in my life. It will not make me an unbeliever, because Christ can finish the job He started.

peacefulbeliever · Feb 28, 2018

Did Jesus heal EVERY sick person? Not that we know of - we only have a few records of healings performed by him. Of the ones we have, we see that faith/belief was involved and when "many works" were not done, it was due to unbelief. (Matt. 13:58)

For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; your faith has made you whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour. Matthew 9:21,22

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is your faith" be it unto you even as you will. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Matt. 15:28

For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, go and he goes; and to another, Come and he comes; and unto my servant, do this and he does it. When Jesus heard these things, he marveled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick. Luke 7:8-10

I know that when I got cancer - I didn't have enough faith/belief for instantaneous healing - I didn't have it in me. I was double minded so to speak. I knew God healed (faith) but would he heal ME (doubt) . . I did, however, have enough faith/belief that God could work through the surgeons and whatever procedure that I needed to go through.

I can't move a mountain either . . . so I guess my faith is not even big as a mustard seed!!! Although, I believe that it is - I just get bombarded by doubt . . .

We are human beings and we tend to doubt or believe one minute and doubt the next . . .

Why are some healed and some not? Anything beyond what scripture says is speculation . . . . we will find out one day.

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

Deade said:

Thats sort of where I am or maybe was Deade, but then He touched me. Twice more after then again while watching the ministry I follow. I see we are the same age. There's prophetic Word to the aged coming forth that God isnt yet finished with us. Now, if I should drop dead today, that will not nullify the Word, will it?

This Word by the way, has come through several different sources.

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Lancelot said:

The Bible tells us why some aren't healed, but if you talk about it people get mad at you.
1. Unbelief - "6 But he must ask in faith, without doubting, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7 That man should not expect to receive anything from the Lord."(James 1:6,7) Some people will bash me for saying this, but the Bible clearly tells us that unbelief can hinder us from receiving from God.
2. Sin - "19 By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; 20 for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything. 21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God; 22 and whatever we ask we receive from him, because we keep his commandments and do what pleases him." (I John 3:19-22) Just as with #1, people don't want to hear this but we have to abide by God's moral code in order to ask in faith.3. Strife - "Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered." (I Peter 3:7)
4. Not Discerning the Lord's Body - "27 Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30 That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died." (I Cor. 11:27-30) We can fail to discern the Lord's body through not respectfully observing communion, or by not showing love toward the brethren, or by not realizing that the Lord bore our sicknesses along with our sins on the cross.
5. Ignorance (about how faith works or God's will in healing) - "6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge ..." (Hosea 4:6) The more we learn about our rights and privileges as children of God and how faith works the better we'll be equipped to appropriate by faith what God has provided for us.
Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.Likewise, husbands, live with your wives in an understanding way, showing honor to the woman as the weaker vessel, since they are heirs with you of the grace of life, so that your prayers may not be hindered.

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stonesoffire said:

Nah, it has to be because of sin, unbelief, strife, discernment of the body, or ignorance. Those were the only choices Lance gave.

And communion doesn't fit in context.

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

peacefulbeliever said:

Did Jesus heal EVERY sick person? Not that we know of - we only have a few records of healings performed by him. Of the ones we have, we see that faith/belief was involved and when "many works" were not done, it was due to unbelief. (Matt. 13:58)

For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; your faith has made you whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour. Matthew 9:21,22

Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is your faith" be it unto you even as you will. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. Matt. 15:28

For I also am a man set under authority, having under me soldiers, and I say unto one, go and he goes; and to another, Come and he comes; and unto my servant, do this and he does it. When Jesus heard these things, he marveled at him, and turned him about, and said unto the people that followed him, I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel. And they that were sent, returning to the house, found the servant whole that had been sick. Luke 7:8-10

I know that when I got cancer - I didn't have enough faith/belief for instantaneous healing - I didn't have it in me. I was double minded so to speak. I knew God healed (faith) but would he heal ME (doubt) . . I did, however, have enough faith/belief that God could work through the surgeons and whatever procedure that I needed to go through.

I can't move a mountain either . . . so I guess my faith is not even big as a mustard seed!!! Although, I believe that it is - I just get bombarded by doubt . . .

We are human beings and we tend to doubt or believe one minute and doubt the next . . .

Why are some healed and some not? Anything beyond what scripture says is speculation . . . . we will find out one day.

Exactly. Speculation. Thank you.

Oral Roberts is someone that I used to watch on tv with my grandmother. Am not entirely sure but I think it was him that said in agreeing with someone, our faith should be agreed on at their level. I had forgotten that until I read your post.

7seasrekeyed · Feb 28, 2018

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well that's fine...guess it was a 2 for 1 post or something

I pray for others almost every single day with regard to healing

as for myself, God has physically touched me more than once or shown me what is going in order to get better

in fact, just recently again

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stonesoffire said:

Again, context. How does communion fit within context?

[FONT=&quot]5 Do not rebuke an older man but encourage him as you would a father, younger men as brothers, 2 older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, in all purity.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Honor widows who are truly widows. 4 But if a widow has children or grandchildren, let them first learn to show godliness to their own household and to make some return to their parents, for this is pleasing in the sight of God.5 She who is truly a widow, left all alone, has set her hope on God and continues in supplications and prayers night and day, 6 but she who is self-indulgent is dead even while she lives. 7 Command these things as well, so that they may be without reproach. 8 But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 Let a widow be enrolled if she is not less than sixty years of age, having been the wife of one husband, 10 and having a reputation for good works: if she has brought up children, has shown hospitality, has washed the feet of the saints, has cared for the afflicted, and has devoted herself to every good work. 11 But refuse to enroll younger widows, for when their passions draw them away from Christ, they desire to marry 12 and so incur condemnation for having abandoned their former faith. 13 Besides that, they learn to be idlers, going about from house to house, and not only idlers, but also gossips and busybodies, saying what they should not. 14 So I would have younger widows marry, bear children, manage their households, and give the adversary no occasion for slander. 15 For some have already strayed after Satan. 16 If any believing woman has relatives who are widows, let her care for them. Let the church not be burdened, so that it may care for those who are truly widows.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.” 19 Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear. 21 In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus and of the elect angels I charge you to keep these rules without prejudging, doing nothing from partiality. 22 Do not be hasty in the laying on of hands, nor take part in the sins of others; keep yourself pure. 23 (No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.) 24 The sins of some people are conspicuous, going before them to judgment, but the sins of others appear later. 25 So also good works are conspicuous, and even those that are not cannot remain hidden.[/FONT]

stonesoffire · Feb 28, 2018

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I want to explore a bit. Will get back to you.

7seasrekeyed · Feb 28, 2018

BenFTW said:

but that is not what you do...you don't offer help

apparently you suffer from selective reading of people's posts

I think everyone here has stated that they pray for healing or have prayed or are praying and you consistently shut that down like you just did

easy to post as you do...ignoring questions people ask you and just steamroll over people's faith by telling them they have no faith or not enough faith

what you are doing is being dishonest by ignoring that people do pray but are not necessairly healed

that is not loving and no one is buying that love at the moment

Deade · Feb 28, 2018

peacefulbeliever said:

Yeah, I know what you mean. I prayed earnestly for God to give me some new knees as both mine were shot. After about five years of this, I deduced maybe God isn't going to do it my way. I was living alone so they wouldn't agree for replacement. I had to check into a nursing home for a year while I had the operations. I felt God working through me the whole time. I made many friends of the staff and patients and I could witness for the Lord there. Now, I am living with my youngest son and I am quite independent. All this and I can cook again, which I love. Hindsight is always 20/20. God's ways are higher than ours.

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stonesoffire said:

You are a believer in Bill Johnson. It is as if the corruption of Hagin, Copeland, Osteen, Ellis and J. Prince (I don't know Price either), has multiplied and increased in Bill Johnson. He actually makes the others look conservative/Christian comparatively.

7seasrekeyed · Feb 28, 2018

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Johnson was pentecostal

he is now and has been for quite some time, New Apostolic Reformation

that makes Wofers girl scouts

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BenFTW said:

No. Really not. Your expectations are in "God owes me." It is so incredibly unloving what you're doing. YES, incredibly unloving.

You are telling people who God did not choose to heal that it is their fault they aren't healed. And why? Because, "God owes you."

You're types of lies have hurt so many over the course of so many decades now. Can't you see that? People walk away from God because YOU lie, and they keep thinking you're talking for God.

YOU keep telling everyone to expect something from God all right -- expect physical, emotional, financial healing. Expect, expect expect, because it is assured from God above, and yet that is not what God has ever said. That is what you say.

That's horrible, not loving!

It's egocentric, not loving.

It's pride, not loving.

It's arrogance with absolutely no empathy on the carnage you leave behind, not loving.

To quote someone recently,

"Quit it!"

Ever consider those words were aimed at you?

And for the record, I really pray you see the light, because you are heaping condemnation on yourself.

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