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Pontiac

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I have had people send me this "rep power" and don't even know exactly how it works ... Somebody explained it in part to me, but still I'm not fully aware of how it works ... Strange to join the site, try to spread truth within the Bible, then get accused of somehow cheating when I don't even know how the platform operates ... Still trying to figure things out ...
 
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AuntieAnt

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I have had people send me this "rep power" and don't even know exactly how it works ... Somebody explained it in part to me, but still I'm not fully aware of how it works ... Strange to join the site, try to spread truth within the Bible, then get accused of somehow cheating when I don't even know how the platform operates ... Still trying to figure things out ...
I'll keep this short so I don't derail the op for too long. But rep power is just a way other members boost your reputation for a post they felt was worthy enough to justify points. Not everyone feels it's necessary or important, but it's your personal choice to use it. It's just an added way of letting someone know you value their comment.

If you hover your mouse over the six pointed star at the bottom left of the person's comment, it'll read: Add to this user's reputation Click on it and you can add a comment or not, then click OK to send.

Hope that helps! :)
 

Angela53510

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In response to Angela53510,

She wrote: 1. Amazing how you join CC and 2 days later (the first posts you made!) you are telling everyone where to go, and when to get off. It would behoove you to get to know people here before you go off the rails on a witch hunt. Unless you are a banned member returning, and you actually do know everyone you are attacking. But, that needs to be dealt with on a different level.

2. So, please let us know how many children you have, and how well they turned out. I hope they are all perfect, because you certainly seem to know everything about everything.

If you are NOT a parent, then just go someplace else. Unless you are recalling some bad childhood experiences you had, and we can all already see whatever happened to you didn't work out for good.


I have not at all told anyone "where to go" nor "when to get off" ... I have no idea where you came up with that ... I have, on the other hand, shared the truth of what the Bible says ... Also, I am not a banned member as I signed up for the first time just recently ... That is interesting that you would say that if someone is not a parent that they have nothing to offer any parent and that they should just go somewhere else ... Also, interesting is your attitude that someone new cannot immediately speak the truth of the Bible ... I did not realize the truth had to gain such seniority before it was allowed to be spoken ... I was sort of under the impression that I was joining a Christian site where it would be welcomed immediately ... According to your attitude, if Jesus Himself was to show up and join the site, then you would require for Him to wait a certain amount of time before He should speak truth to anyone ... Somehow that doesn't ring very Christian to me to require one to obtain any certain level of seniority in order to speak truth of the Bible ... Also, it doesn't seem very Christian like to order anyone to go somewhere else simply because they may be childless and passing along what the Bible truly says regarding the raising of children ...

I realize you believe you are extremely Christian like, but it hasn't come through in your words ... Basically telling people to shut up and to go somewhere else because you don't like the truth they have spoken or how long they have been here ... I don't see any requirement in the Bible for anyone to have children to be able to help those to the truth that do have children ... I also do not see anything in the Bible requiring anyone to have any sort of seniority in order to speak anything that is truthful ... As you claim I have gone over sound boundaries, I believe it may just be you that is not standing on very solid ground with your ideas ...

You are probably right that I should just go somewhere else ... There seems to be a lot of people on here that are extremely resentful of the truth and unwilling to listen to any common sense ...
So, not a parent, but knows and applies everything the Bible says, even about things you have never experienced. Sad!

As as far as you coming in with fists swinging, again, perhaps get to know people first. You know nothing about the individuals, what they have been through, their struggles. Instead, you laid down your own personal opinions, and slammed each and every person who disagreed with you.

Some of those people have successfully raised children, with methods you seem not to agree with. That isn’t just the spanking crowd, but the non-spanking crowd, too! You have no idea of peope’s walk with God, their experience in life or raising children, their knowledge and study of the Bible, education level, etc.

Of course, as a newcomer, you are more than welcome to state your opinion. But unfortunately, you didn’t do that. I didn’t start reading this thread until it was in page 7. I came here more at the behest of someone who was greatly hurt the way you attacked not just them, but numerous people with your bombastic and self centred posts.

Instead of confining your remarks to the OP, you took it upon yourself for more than a page to lamblast almost everyone who posted on the thread. Which is why I felt quite justified in rebuking your pushy and arrogant attacks on my friends.

You come in here spouting untested and dogmatic theories, even worse, claiming you know more about child rearing even though you have not actually raised any children, but shouting that you know more more about the Bible than anyone else. I won’t tell you who, but there are pastors here, who have studied the Bible, know the original languages extremely well, and have always presented themselves as kind and godly people. (No, not talking about myself! Lol)

Further, you have implied I am not Christ like, which may be true, although I do try my best to love people, understand them, as well as sharing from my experience and training, as well as a ministry I have in PMs.

It is you, a newbie, who has come into this forum without love, arrogant, cruel and basically diverting this thread to yourself, instead of the OP. I tried to discuss the OP, you didn’t respond to my comments on the OP, instead you tried to damage me, personally.

So sorry, I am not fragile, I know the Bible 100 X better than you ever will, I have successfully raised children, taught children, as a professional, and I know people here personally and I care about them. You are not going to abduct this thread to your own selfish agenda, of a pompous, proud person who attacks people so freely, how could I not think you must have known them, and had previous bad blood with them, to just keep on atttacking in your ridiculous know-it-all manner? My bad, for that one!

Oh, and that passive aggressive comment at the end of this post I have quoted! Hilarious!

PS You have already clearly proven to me and many others, that no, you don’t have an exclusive claim to truth where the Bible is concerned!
 

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Wikipedia's article on crucifixion says While a crucifixion was an execution, it was also a humiliation, by making the condemned as vulnerable as possible. one of the great humiliations of a crucifixion was that a man was crucified naked.
 

Angela53510

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Just to mention what I saw clearly on my fast catch up read of this thread.

Posts by Pontiac

Page 2 - 5 posts
Page 3 -15 posts
Page 4 - 11 posts
Page 5 - 13 posts

I’m sorry, I didn’t count all the Bible verses you, in your immense and knowledgeable wisdom posted in 44 posts in 4 pages. Was it 2 or maybe 3 verses?

I also missed the first page and pages 6-8 in my count! I figure I could rest my case on just 4 pages.

Really the 15 posts in page 3, and more important, their abusive content was too much! It was like seeing a battering ram in action! Perhaps you should go back and reread what your wrote? No, you wouldn’t even see it!
 
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Silverwings

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You made 90 posts in two days............unbelievable. But if you say you did, then I suppose you did, but it still blows my mind!!
 

MarcR

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Concerning the part I put in bold .
Well one time He brought out a wip and overturned some tables.
Blessings
Bill
It was never my desire or intent to critique other parents' methods of discipline.

I attempted to share a method that yielded good results because nobody is born knowing howto discipline children; and sharing something that worked well for my children seemed like a reasonable step toward loving my neighbor as myself.

I was placed in the position of needing to defend my methods after kids more than 20 years younger than my daughter attacked me.
 

Laish

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It was never my desire or intent to critique other parents' methods of discipline.

I attempted to share a method that yielded good results because nobody is born knowing howto discipline children; and sharing something that worked well for my children seemed like a reasonable step toward loving my neighbor as myself.

I was placed in the position of needing to defend my methods after kids more than 20 years younger than my daughter attacked me.
MarcR if most parents cared enough to raise their children in the loving and disciplined way that you raised your kids we would have only a fraction of the problems that we face today. Those that take the time to read your posts will know this . My opinion the attacks on your character and understanding of scripture are uncalled for. You shared useful advice and backed it up . My opinion agian anything further is pearls before swine.
Blessings brother
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Pontiac

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So, not a parent, but knows and applies everything the Bible says, even about things you have never experienced. Sad!

As as far as you coming in with fists swinging, again, perhaps get to know people first. You know nothing about the individuals, what they have been through, their struggles. Instead, you laid down your own personal opinions, and slammed each and every person who disagreed with you.

Some of those people have successfully raised children, with methods you seem not to agree with. That isn’t just the spanking crowd, but the non-spanking crowd, too! You have no idea of peope’s walk with God, their experience in life or raising children, their knowledge and study of the Bible, education level, etc.

Of course, as a newcomer, you are more than welcome to state your opinion. But unfortunately, you didn’t do that. I didn’t start reading this thread until it was in page 7. I came here more at the behest of someone who was greatly hurt the way you attacked not just them, but numerous people with your bombastic and self centred posts.

Instead of confining your remarks to the OP, you took it upon yourself for more than a page to lamblast almost everyone who posted on the thread. Which is why I felt quite justified in rebuking your pushy and arrogant attacks on my friends.

You come in here spouting untested and dogmatic theories, even worse, claiming you know more about child rearing even though you have not actually raised any children, but shouting that you know more more about the Bible than anyone else. I won’t tell you who, but there are pastors here, who have studied the Bible, know the original languages extremely well, and have always presented themselves as kind and godly people. (No, not talking about myself! Lol)

Further, you have implied I am not Christ like, which may be true, although I do try my best to love people, understand them, as well as sharing from my experience and training, as well as a ministry I have in PMs.

It is you, a newbie, who has come into this forum without love, arrogant, cruel and basically diverting this thread to yourself, instead of the OP. I tried to discuss the OP, you didn’t respond to my comments on the OP, instead you tried to damage me, personally.

So sorry, I am not fragile, I know the Bible 100 X better than you ever will, I have successfully raised children, taught children, as a professional, and I know people here personally and I care about them. You are not going to abduct this thread to your own selfish agenda, of a pompous, proud person who attacks people so freely, how could I not think you must have known them, and had previous bad blood with them, to just keep on atttacking in your ridiculous know-it-all manner? My bad, for that one!

Oh, and that passive aggressive comment at the end of this post I have quoted! Hilarious!

PS You have already clearly proven to me and many others, that no, you don’t have an exclusive claim to truth where the Bible is concerned!
Angela,
Not being a parent has absolutely nothing to do with one being able to offer good biblical advice on parenting ... Would you like proof of this ? ... Jesus did not have children did he ? ... Do you believe just maybe He could offer some good advice on parenting ? ... Your philosophy that one must be a parent in order to offer good biblical advice on parenting is simply a false assumption ... Anyone, and I say anyone who reads their Bible and believes in the verses is very capable of offering good advice on any subject ... As long as they stay true to the very word and do not add nor subtract from it ...

If you call staying true to the word of God as coming in with fists swinging then yes I guess I am guilty of that ... When I see something that is true to the Bible I will gladly say so ... And when I see something that is not true to the Bible I am not afraid to speak on that either ... There is no vanity in my words ... I seek no recognition nor approval from anyone here on this earth ... I merely lay the truth before all to see ... It is up to each person whether they are willing to accept it or become defensive over it ... I am not supposed to allow that to stop me from speaking it ...

I invite you to read each and every one of my posts ... I have not come in here simply expressing my own opinions ... Show me one single post that I have made that goes against the word of God ... When my words are in direct line with the word of God, it is not any opinion ... I get so tired of hearing this from others that call themselves Christians ... When a stance is taken in strict accordance with the word of God it is not any opinion ... It is truth is what it is ... What is an opinion is when a stance is not in line with the word of God ... Those are known as opinions ... What is written in the Bible, on the other hand, is the truth ... I don't need to know anyone's life or their education level ... I know whatever earthly education they may have came from a corrupt world and does nothing to signify them as being right or wrong ... So, you believe my posts are self-centered ... Now how can that be true when they are centered around what the Bible says ? ... I did not write the Bible ... It isn't full of my words ... It is full of God's words and when I repeat those words and those principles that discussion is not centered around me, it is centered around Him ... If somebody becomes upset with that then that is their fault, it is not my fault ... If anybody takes offense to the principles in the Bible, then they need to take that discussion up with Him and not me as those words are not mine to be challenging ...

That is fine if you want to refer to quoting the Bible as being pushy ... Show me once where I gave someone any false advice or misquoted anything that the Bible has said ... You cannot do that because every bit of my advice has been centered around scripture and not myself ... And you want to call me "arrogant" ... If you wish to speak on "arrogance" then you should speak to your friends that believe "all Christians" should raise their children exactly as they do even though they have zero scripture themselves to back up their methods ... That is the "arrogance" included in this thread ... Then you can look into the mirror at your own "arrogance" ... Claiming someone must have seniority in order to speak truth in a social media setting ... And claiming one must be a parent to offer sound biblical advice on parenting ... Both of which are completely false ...

You should stop with your unfounded generalizations ... You claim I have come in here with "untested" and "dogmatic" theories ... Show them to me please ... Don't just generalize, let's be specific here ... Tell everyone here exactly what "untested" theories I have introduced ... I agree with you that I have no exclusive claim to the truth and have never pretended that was the case ... God is truth and I stand with Him ... Now show all of us the "untested" theories I have introduced here and be specific by showing my previous and exact words ...
 
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Pontiac

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Discipline is instruction. Discipline is NOT and SHOULD NEVER BE punishment; or ROM 8:1 has NO MEANING.

Spanking is and will continue to be a valid disciplinary technique.

It should be employed to help a child remember to do right NOT to punish wrong doing.

ONLY after acceptable behavior has been clearly defined and explained.

If a child is able to read he/she should be instructed to read this passage; otherwise it should be read to him/her.

It should be explained that the wrongdoing is already forgiven and that the coming spanking is to help the child remember to do right.

The child should be reminded that Jesus was stripped naked in front of a hostile crowd and beaten beyond recognition to forgive your bad behavior.

The child should be told: You will be stripped naked and get a mild spanking in front of one person who loves you and wants the best for you.

The child should be told: "If you think about your embarrassment and your pain the spanking will be an unpleasant experience that will not help you; but if you think about Jesus' embarrassment and His pain, the spanking will truly help you remember to do right.

then regardless of the seriousness of the offense:

The child should then be totally disrobed and spanked 3 swats on each buttock hard enough to sting but not hard enough to injure.

The child should then be reminded of your love and forgiveness.


I'm not trying to critique other parents' disciplinary techniques! I'm trying to suggest a method that makes a child aware of what Jesus did for him/her and His forgiveness; while correcting bad behavior
Here is the posting in which I attacked, because it is inherently wrong and has zero basis in the Bible ... Even worse, is that this person later said that he believes all Christians must follow his methods or they are not Christian, even though he can offer zero support for his method within the Bible ... That is ludicrous, so yes I attacked his thoughts ... I did not attack the entire man, but certainly I did attack his unfounded thoughts on this subject ...
 
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Pontiac

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It was never my desire or intent to critique other parents' methods of discipline.

I attempted to share a method that yielded good results because nobody is born knowing howto discipline children; and sharing something that worked well for my children seemed like a reasonable step toward loving my neighbor as myself.

I was placed in the position of needing to defend my methods after kids more than 20 years younger than my daughter attacked me.
You did not simply attempt to share a method Marc ... That would have been fine ... What you did was outline your method and then stated if others did not follow it then they were not Christian ... You acted as if your method was the only method ... All the while, being unable to provide a single scripture in support of such method ... That is much much more than simply sharing a method to help a neighbor ... I cannot believe you cannot see the error in that ...
 

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You did not simply attempt to share a method Marc ... That would have been fine ... What you did was outline your method and then stated if others did not follow it then they were not Christian ... You acted as if your method was the only method ... All the while, being unable to provide a single scripture in support of such method ... That is much much more than simply sharing a method to help a neighbor ... I cannot believe you cannot see the error in that ...
Well I see your going to be as much joy as a lawyer in a monopoly game .
Blessings
Bill
 
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Pontiac

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Well I see your going to be as much joy as a lawyer in a monopoly game .
Blessings
Bill
And I see you're as much fun as a joker in the emergency room ... Doing something not supported by the Bible and then deceiving others into doing the very same thing is no laughing matter ...
 

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You did not simply attempt to share a method Marc ... That would have been fine ... What you did was outline your method and then stated if others did not follow it then they were not Christian ... You acted as if your method was the only method ... All the while, being unable to provide a single scripture in support of such method ... That is much much more than simply sharing a method to help a neighbor ... I cannot believe you cannot see the error in that ...
Kindly RE-read the last line in the post you cited in post#231; and you will see for yourself your own misunderstanding!
 
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Miri

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Well I see your going to be as much joy as a lawyer in a monopoly game .
Blessings
Bill


Baw hah.....

So funny couldn’t let that one pass....:D

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Miri

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It was never my desire or intent to critique other parents' methods of discipline.

I attempted to share a method that yielded good results because nobody is born knowing howto discipline children; and sharing something that worked well for my children seemed like a reasonable step toward loving my neighbor as myself.

I was placed in the position of needing to defend my methods after kids more than 20 years younger than my daughter attacked me.

I have to say Marc, you are one of the most level headed, wise and inoffensive
people on CC.