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MissCris

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Ok... Point well taken.... Back to what I originally said... Welcome to life....
I always find it a bit sad when someone responds to another’s hardships with the attitude of “That’s life, deal with it”. While it’s certainly true that life is tough, it doesn’t have to mean we should brush each other off as though the individual trials we face are nothing. I don’t see it as whining or complaining or even being weak when somebody openly admits to feeling overwhelmed or unable to handle everything on their plate- but throwing out a “welcome to life” seems to be intended to tell that person that they Are whining or being somehow weak.
 

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....I love my husband and children. I feel like I'm about to lose it.. it's like my husband works everyday, I mean everyday 12-13 hours a day..... or more... I work also 3 days a week..
Do you have so many bills that he has to work that long? So many bills that you have to work 3 days a week? Downsize, don't think about it, just do it.

. but I feel like I'm about to cry right now... I'm trying to do taxes.... be here for my sons therapy appointments .. cook.. clean.. wash clothes ... read the Word of God.
Out of all those things, Reading the Word of God is most needful. Never put off that, for something else. What this generation doesn't understand, is when you read the Bible, you are feeding the spirit inside of you. You would not go one day without feeding your flesh food, you should not go one day without feeding your spirit. Peoples spirits are starving, and they wander why they don't feel spiritual. If a person has a starving spirit, they will feel overwhelmed by things of this LIFE.

.. but I feel myself getting so frustrated with them because I feel I can't get enough done.
If your car is out of control, what is the best coarse of action? Put the brakes on and STOP. Take a break, go on a vacation, make plans for a vacation. Plan every week for "Me Time". Put on the brakes, slow down, relax. Those who do not have anything to look forward to, will start resenting the humdrum of LIFE. You and your husband should {at the least} have a date night once a month. Can't afford it, then go without pizza one night, make it happen. Just do it.

You need to find something that you can do that when you are feeling extremely frustrated, that it will calm you down. i suggest when you feel that way, pick up a devotional, and read it. i know you don't feel like, just do it.

I get so frustrated I feel the Lord will take my salvation...
Frustration will NEVER cause your name to be blotted out of the Book of Life. Denying Jesus Christ will. Not forgiving others will. Hating on others will. If your not doing those things then your name is secure in the Book of Life, don't let satan convince you otherwise.

or that I'm loosing my faith... with being so overwhelmed..
Being overwhelmed should not diminish what you believe, which is your Faith. But i could be wrong and there may be examples that i am not currently thinking about.

. I do know that's what I'm suppose to do as a wife.. and be submissive as the Bible says.
You mentioning this, would indicate that you have a problem with this? You are listing in your post all the problems that you are having, then also list this statement as well. Are you having an issue with this? resent it, agree with it, disagree with it, think you should, think you shouldn't?

Can you all relate? If so how did you get through it?
God.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

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Do you have so many bills that he has to work that long? So many bills that you have to work 3 days a week? Downsize, don't think about it, just do it.



Out of all those things, Reading the Word of God is most needful. Never put off that, for something else. What this generation doesn't understand, is when you read the Bible, you are feeding the spirit inside of you. You would not go one day without feeding your flesh food, you should not go one day without feeding your spirit. Peoples spirits are starving, and they wander why they don't feel spiritual. If a person has a starving spirit, they will feel overwhelmed by things of this LIFE.



If your car is out of control, what is the best coarse of action? Put the brakes on and STOP. Take a break, go on a vacation, make plans for a vacation. Plan every week for "Me Time". Put on the brakes, slow down, relax. Those who do not have anything to look forward to, will start resenting the humdrum of LIFE. You and your husband should {at the least} have a date night once a month. Can't afford it, then go without pizza one night, make it happen. Just do it.

You need to find something that you can do that when you are feeling extremely frustrated, that it will calm you down. i suggest when you feel that way, pick up a devotional, and read it. i know you don't feel like, just do it.



Frustration will NEVER cause your name to be blotted out of the Book of Life. Denying Jesus Christ will. Not forgiving others will. Hating on others will. If your not doing those things then your name is secure in the Book of Life, don't let satan convince you otherwise.



Being overwhelmed should not diminish what you believe, which is your Faith. But i could be wrong and there may be examples that i am not currently thinking about.



You mentioning this, would indicate that you have a problem with this? You are listing in your post all the problems that you are having, then also list this statement as well. Are you having an issue with this? resent it, agree with it, disagree with it, think you should, think you shouldn't?



God.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
No it's not that many bills, his job just makes him work that way. I work 3 days to cover my bills, so he won't have to cover mine. Also, I don't like to burden him with my car payment and everything.

I agree with you reading the Word is so important! When I don't read it I can tell.

Yes I have been trying to take a vacation but my husbands work schedule, keeps us from that. I believe here soon he will have a chance at vacation. I hope we can go then. The date night? He hasn't had a day off.

I will take that advice to find something that helps me when I'm feelings frustrated, the daily bread is a good idea!


Thanks. Yes I will admit I did think you could loose it that way. All I have is the Lord that I cling to.

No I don't have a problem being a submissive wife at all if the Lord says we should then that's what I'm going to do. Just sometimes with all that goes on, I feel like I'm not doing it correctly, or doing so and forget about myself.
 
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Ariel82

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I didn’t see anyone say anything about needing “me time”. Well, I mentioned finding five minutes to have a shower, but bathing is just as much a service to those around us as it is a small break for ourselves ;)
Yet even Jesus took "me time" to pray alone in the mountain....guess it's better called "God time" or "alone time with God"
 
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Ariel82

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No it's not that many bills, his job just makes him work that way. I work 3 days to cover my bills, so he won't have to cover mine. Also, I don't like to burden him with my car payment and everything.

I agree with you reading the Word is so important! When I don't read it I can tell.

Yes I have been trying to take a vacation but my husbands work schedule, keeps us from that. I believe here soon he will have a chance at vacation. I hope we can go then. The date night? He hasn't had a day off.

I will take that advice to find something that helps me when I'm feelings frustrated, the daily bread is a good idea!


Thanks. Yes I will admit I did think you could loose it that way. All I have is the Lord that I cling to.

No I don't have a problem being a submissive wife at all if the Lord says we should then that's what I'm going to do. Just sometimes with all that goes on, I feel like I'm not doing it correctly, or doing so and forget about myself.
You are married....you bills are his bills too. Until he gets some time off of his job, maybe it might be less stressful if you took the time off work??

You and your husband will have to decide what is best. However, marriage means you do things together and your bills are joint.,,just like the household chores and raising your kids...you figure out how to make it all work as a team so that you both can enjoy one another.

I would suggest taking your Sabbath on the days you both don't work (hopefully he will get that soon...is it legal for him to work that long, I thought labor laws prevented that? Especially for government employees)

Will keep you in prayer.
 

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being together with someone means u share everything. theres no his or your bills. theres no ur or his problems. you two are one. its not just your chores, both of you should ( at least in my opinion ) do things together when you can. obviously he has less time to help you and exhausted, but you should try to work things out together.
I know that situation from my dad. his day goes working 20hrs, 1 hr drive home, 2 hrs sleep and another hr back to work.
then he wonders that his body starts to shut down.

i think yall should try to make more time together. maybe you guys can find a way that u both work but that theres always someone home and none get overworked?
 

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Thank you Lynn! I will admit I can be that mom. I believe because my mom stayed on us constantly about keeping a clean house. My dad always taught cleaning the house is showing appreciation for what God has blessed you with. My mom always comes over and tells me wha isn't cleaned lol

I agree with you, I use to always think why did God give the sabbath just because He's God I don't see him needing it. It was for a reason, as I'm learning. Now as far as what day should be our sabbath?

Yes after, he he's off today, I'm going to talk to him I need help and I'm getting worn down a lot. Thank you very very very much for your encouragement and advice. Even telling me about your experience that helps a lot!

This post confirms what I thought. You are a perfectionist, and you can’t live up to your mom’s standards!

First, you should not be doing everything. It is not a good way to raise a child. My kids started doing dishes at age 5. My husband and I both worked with the kids, teaching them how to do it, checking back from time to time, to see what they had forgotten to do. It was a great skill for all 4 kids to learn. Then they learned how to do their own laundry, including folding the clothes. Next it was how to make beds. I remember visiting my German MIL once. My oldest son made his bed. My MIL walked into the room, said it wasn’t good enough, tore the bed apart and remade it! My son was stunned, and I know why my husband can’t make s bed on his own, to this day, although he can rebuild an engine without batting an eye! That’s called learned helplessness! Getting discouraged because your efforts aren’t good enough. Perfectionist moms do that to their kids!

My son showed her, though. That same son was in a dorm university. We took her to visit, his room was spotless, his bed was perfect. She kept asking how a boy could be that neat and tidy. You learn by practicing!

I was working 3 days a week, hubby was out of town for weeks or months at a time. The kids started in on household chores. The oldest son did a weekly checklist of what had to be done. On Saturday, they all had to do 3 jobs. They would run downstairs to sign up for their favourite jobs, and get them done. In return, we paid for hockey, drove them to 5 am practices and games all over Canada. So they learned skills and responsibilities, ended up with careers coming out of hockey, including coaching and scholarships! Win-win! Oh, and they are all happy and successful, good marriages, wonderful grandchildren, who also help out. One pair of a 4 and 5 year old can clean the playroom and their rooms in fast time. And they are so happy!

Oh, I forgot about the toilets! My daughter was 3 when we started the check list, she always ending up with cleaning the 3 toilets. Years later she told me how lucky she was to get the toilets, because it was so nice getting them clean, and they were clean! (She got figure skating paid for, practises 6 days a week! That was her choice of sports, she ended up competing at provincial levels, becoming a coach to put herself through her second university degree!)

So, start by teaching your son how to help around the house. You are doing him no favours by letting him be lazy, because you can do it faster or better. Raising children means teaching him to contribute and to be responsible for his own things. It will be hard to change the bad pattern, but stick to it, because he will be better in the long run.

As for you, lessons in ignoring your mom’s sharp, meddling tongue. She is provoking you, which the Bible says is wrong. Don’t yell at her, but firmly and respectfully tell her to stop meddling. If she continues, ban her from your house. Or bring out the vacuum/duster/mop and thank her for the offer to help.

As for your husband, make him pick up his own clothes, wash, dry and iron them. If he puts up with this overwork abuse at work, it doesn’t mean he should be escaping his duties. And yes, men can cook and clean, but you have to give them the opportunity to do it.

The reason I’m saying this, is because I was so busy, my body broke down and I became sick. When I finally had no choice but to stop doing things, my house was a disaster! I hired a housekeeper, and hubby had to pick up the slack. I also realized that changing the oil in the 2 cars twice a year didn’t come close to the weekly duties of shopping for food, making meals, doing all the household laundry, and thousands of other things women do. Especially since I started working full time, it wasn’t right for me to be doing so much, and hubby agreed!

And do keep your job. It gets you out if the house, it will keep you in the workforce. If something happens to your husband, you have some financial security. I think staying home full time, not interacting with other people would increase your perfectionism, and leave you in worse shape than you are now!

Finally, take some time for yourself, and especially for God. Read a chapter or 2 of the Bible a day, and pray. God will give you peace!
 
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You are married....you bills are his bills too. Until he gets some time off of his job, maybe it might be less stressful if you took the time off work??

You and your husband will have to decide what is best. However, marriage means you do things together and your bills are joint.,,just like the household chores and raising your kids...you figure out how to make it all work as a team so that you both can enjoy one another.

I would suggest taking your Sabbath on the days you both don't work (hopefully he will get that soon...is it legal for him to work that long, I thought labor laws prevented that? Especially for government employees)

Will keep you in prayer.
Thank you please do keep me in your prayers.

I agree I guess I feel bad he works so much, so that's why o take on all of the chores and the responsibilities with the children.

I thought so too with labour laws, he stated that his manager said they can do it with their contract
 
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being together with someone means u share everything. theres no his or your bills. theres no ur or his problems. you two are one. its not just your chores, both of you should ( at least in my opinion ) do things together when you can. obviously he has less time to help you and exhausted, but you should try to work things out together.
I know that situation from my dad. his day goes working 20hrs, 1 hr drive home, 2 hrs sleep and another hr back to work.
then he wonders that his body starts to shut down.

i think yall should try to make more time together. maybe you guys can find a way that u both work but that theres always someone home and none get overworked?
Your right, I honestly forget that sometimes.

He works so much, I feel like a single mom at times. I want to do date nights or something but with his schedule.

He does get sick a lot, because he is overworked and not taking care of his self as he should
 
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Your right, I honestly forget that sometimes.

He works so much, I feel like a single mom at times. I want to do date nights or something but with his schedule.

He does get sick a lot, because he is overworked and not taking care of his self as he should
Whoa! How does he pull that off? (Being sick.) There's so little sick time given in the first place for his job.

Or is he one of those guys who staples his arm when it rips off so he can keep working? (Some exaggeration, but hubby and nephew have been laughing over blue-collar work including duct-taping fingertips back on, when accidentally cutting them off, all because "who is going to stop working over losing a mere finger?" Both of them have duct-taped gashes and continued to work. Men! And they think women are hard to figure out. lol)
 
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Whoa! How does he pull that off? (Being sick.) There's so little sick time given in the first place for his job.

Or is he one of those guys who staples his arm when it rips off so he can keep working? (Some exaggeration, but hubby and nephew have been laughing over blue-collar work including duct-taping fingertips back on, when accidentally cutting them off, all because "who is going to stop working over losing a mere finger?" Both of them have duct-taped gashes and continued to work. Men! And they think women are hard to figure out. lol)
I'm not sure, it always amazes be how sick he gets and won't even call off. He always needs me to take care of him though lol yet he manages to still push it for work.

Yes he is definitely that type! He was almost having an asthma attack he felt one coming on and still went to work! I'm like really! I was going to just call off for him lol

Ouch!! Duct tape gashes? I have heard it all now lol
 
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Ariel82

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Thank you please do keep me in your prayers.

I agree I guess I feel bad he works so much, so that's why o take on all of the chores and the responsibilities with the children.

I thought so too with labour laws, he stated that his manager said they can do it with their contract
Not legally they cant but they will as long as they can get away with it.....(unless his contract is a temporary 3 month type thing?)

Without rest our bodies do get sick and worn down.

We have to look at the big picture. What is the point of working all the time for 3 or 4 years, but suffer the rest of your life for the illness that wearing out your body by the intense stress causes? Eventually he won't be able to keep up the pace.

Stress over a long period of time can cause a lot of problems.
 
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Thank you so much,for your reply. It's funny you said I'm a perfectionist, I guess I never looked at myself that way.

i agree i need to start having my toddlers help me. I think, since one has a delay I try to not make him do things that I KNOW he can its a bad habit. My mom had us doing chores cooking very early it did help me a lot.

Now my husband he just use to his mom doing everthing, and I ended up being so used to doing everything picking up cleaning up everything, I feel bad asking him. I started asking him can he atleast get his dirty clothes to s basket,he started doing so for a couple days.

i love your system that you started your children! I hope I can get mine on a similar system. I agree keeping my job is needed, getting out helping others taking Bp giving injections and so much more it's an outlet for me.

Thank you for the advice again I do take all advice because, I'm still learning,and I want to dp things better

God Bless you
 
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I'm not sure, it always amazes be how sick he gets and won't even call off. He always needs me to take care of him though lol yet he manages to still push it for work.

Yes he is definitely that type! He was almost having an asthma attack he felt one coming on and still went to work! I'm like really! I was going to just call off for him lol

Ouch!! Duct tape gashes? I have heard it all now lol
Truthfully, hubby laughs at me for the same thing. We were getting the full brunt of a tropical storm. I was getting dressed for work when I heard a big crash in the front yard. Looked out and a large branch crashed into the yard. Figured I'd deal with it (or the landlord would) when I got home, so went back to getting dressed. Had my pocketbook over my shoulder and keys in my hand when the phone rang. My boss asked, "You're not planning on coming to work today, are you?"

She laughed at me and told me to stay home.

Another time, there was black ice over everything. Even hubby didn't go to work. (Steamfitter on a military base, so if the heat stopped working, pipes would freeze and break.) He's telling me not to go to work the entire time I'm getting ready to go to work.

My last words before walking out the front door were, "They didn't call me, so of course I have to go."

The next second my feet were on a car door in front of our house. I don't even remember how I bypassed the five slate steps. I do remember my back hurt -- a lot -- and trying to stand up and climb five steps in black ice is very hard.

When I called in, no one answered. lol
 
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Not legally they cant but they will as long as they can get away with it.....(unless his contract is a temporary 3 month type thing?)

Without rest our bodies do get sick and worn down.

We have to look at the big picture. What is the point of working all the time for 3 or 4 years, but suffer the rest of your life for the illness that wearing out your body by the intense stress causes? Eventually he won't be able to keep up the pace.

Stress over a long period of time can cause a lot of problems.
He works for our federal government, so legal they can and do. :)
 
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Thank you so much,for your reply. It's funny you said I'm a perfectionist, I guess I never looked at myself that way.

i agree i need to start having my toddlers help me. I think, since one has a delay I try to not make him do things that I KNOW he can its a bad habit. My mom had us doing chores cooking very early it did help me a lot.

Now my husband he just use to his mom doing everthing, and I ended up being so used to doing everything picking up cleaning up everything, I feel bad asking him. I started asking him can he atleast get his dirty clothes to s basket,he started doing so for a couple days.

i love your system that you started your children! I hope I can get mine on a similar system. I agree keeping my job is needed, getting out helping others taking Bp giving injections and so much more it's an outlet for me.

Thank you for the advice again I do take all advice because, I'm still learning,and I want to dp things better

God Bless you
37 years, and still can't get hubby to use hamper. If I remember, I warn him I'm doing laundry the next day. I don't usually remember to say that. We have a great arrangement though. One rule for chores. "If it bothers you, do it."

37 years later, and I also haven't done an extra load of his stuff that didn't get into the laundry. It doesn't bother him or me. But he's good about one thing. He no longer throws dirty clothes where I might walk and trip on them in the dark. That was my real fear. I'd hurt myself tripping on them.

I did win on the toilet seat one though. AND, it took 35 years, but he finally won on the which-way-the-toilet-paper-hangs one. lol

Still not agreeing how our pots should hang, but since he usually makes dinner, I put them up like he likes them.

Life really does keep changing. And because of that, we have to adapt.
 
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Ariel82

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He works for our federal government, so legal they can and do. :)
Sounds like he might be doing his bosses job and his also...which shouldn't be happening.

He works for the government so they should treat their employees better....and most do.
 
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Ariel82

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My husband wants the toilet paper to hang on top so "I don't have to search for the end" like he would if it was on bottom....

Since it sounded logical and I didn't care either way, I try and remember to do it....but yeah....if it bothers you, you do it works for us too.
 
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Truthfully, hubby laughs at me for the same thing. We were getting the full brunt of a tropical storm. I was getting dressed for work when I heard a big crash in the front yard. Looked out and a large branch crashed into the yard. Figured I'd deal with it (or the landlord would) when I got home, so went back to getting dressed. Had my pocketbook over my shoulder and keys in my hand when the phone rang. My boss asked, "You're not planning on coming to work today, are you?"

She laughed at me and told me to stay home.

Another time, there was black ice over everything. Even hubby didn't go to work. (Steamfitter on a military base, so if the heat stopped working, pipes would freeze and break.) He's telling me not to go to work the entire time I'm getting ready to go to work.

My last words before walking out the front door were, "They didn't call me, so of course I have to go."

The next second my feet were on a car door in front of our house. I don't even remember how I bypassed the five slate steps. I do remember my back hurt -- a lot -- and trying to stand up and climb five steps in black ice is very hard.

When I called in, no one answered. lol
Oh no! Lol so you were just like your husband to work regardless. I try to push it with bad weather, but a month ago when my boss called me and said I don't have, I didn't lol I'm think don't have to tell me twice lol
 
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My husband wants the toilet paper to hang on top so "I don't have to search for the end" like he would if it was on bottom....

Since it sounded logical and I didn't care either way, I try and remember to do it....but yeah....if it bothers you, you do it works for us too.
lol I forget to put the toilet paper on the roll after he ask me to refill it, and I leave it on top. He goes crazy!