I don't disagree with that. That may very well be exactly how it is in your church and I agree that it's a wrong way to look at sex. I'm with what you're saying here. The thing is I don't see how that at all ties in with what I was saying, or my point at all.
The comment was worded in a way kind of like what you're doing here, a point about how men (husbands) might need to chill on the porn and maybe be more attentive and helpful to her needs, and my only point was that it's not only men that her advise could benefit seeing as how women struggle with these same things as well. I think you kind of make the same kind of sweeping mistake when you say
" Where? Where does she learn that?? The church is still treating sex within a marriage like it's a dirty thing to be discussed. Meanwhile marriages are falling apart because they think they are the only ones."
I understand fully what you're saying and why you're saying it. In popular "Christianity" is as you say. So I don't want you to think I'm disagreeing with your point at all. My problem with your comment to me is the sweeping way you say that as if ALL church's are like that. There are many many churches that talk about sex no problem in biblical context any time. So the same way I can't say to you, "in church sex it talked about openly given the respect that this gift that God granted us to share together in a specific context, one man, one woman, bonded together until death parts them.
Like I said, I agree with you about how the church has treated sex for a long while now ,making it a dirty thing period, instead of a beautiful awesome gift God gave us, use d in the way He says. the thing is I don't see how that has anything to do with my point that it's not just men that struggle with the sins that were listed, and that wives could also be more considerate of the mans needs as well, because it can go back and forth in my experience. I find such genius perfection in Gods design when followed by His grace. When I'm weak and start to cross a line, or get a bit over excited she's there to grab my arm and help me to realize and see my mistakes, and then when the roles are reversed and she vis having a weak moment getting impatient with a server or something when we lock eyes, and with my expression can tell her "maybe you're being a bit hard on them."
So I appreciate your comment, I just think you might have misunderstood what I was saying, or I was just the trigger for some repressed wrongdoing, but i agree with the point you made and hope you have a great day today.