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Most of how my life is lived is how many people I've helped. That's what we're going to be judged for anyway.
 
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Then life is one big tease. Always having what you really want just out of reach. The logic then must go that (example) if all sorts of horrible things happen because of say, our sex drives (STDs, porn, cheating, selfishness, broken hearts, broken lives, just to name a few), then the drives themselves are bad.
YOU happened because of your parent's sex drive. Is that "bad?"
 
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Most of how my life is lived is how many people I've helped. That's what we're going to be judged for anyway.
Then why are you insisting on thinking beyond that very true, and Jesus-like fact?
 
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YOU happened because of your parent's sex drive. Is that "bad?"

Depends. I'm not saying I believe this, I'm just using logic. Every person conceived becomes another soul who could potentially burn in hell for not choosing Jesus. If aborted babies do go to heaven, then by that reasoning, abortion isn't murder but mercy.

Besides, we now have other means to procreate without intercourse.
 
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Go to sleep. Maybe you will have a more rational outlook in the morning. LOL
 
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It apparently seems that God cares more about our afterlife than our earthly life. He may be loving in that he sent Jesus to die for us, but that's it. Why value any life at all if one is more important than the other?
You are starting to sound like an angry bitter person now. Two pages of whats wrong with the world and now your mad at God? Btw, you do not understand the story of Job. Go read it again with different eyes. Are you reborn again?
 
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Yes. I became a Christian when I was in high school. Just because I get angry and frustrated doesn't mean I'm not.
 
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YOU happened because of your parent's sex drive. Is that "bad?"

Depends. I'm not saying I believe this, I'm just using logic. Every person conceived becomes another soul who could potentially burn in hell for not choosing Jesus. If aborted babies do go to heaven, then by that reasoning, abortion isn't murder but mercy.

Besides, we now have other means to procreate without intercourse.

Quote " I'm not saying I believe this, I'm just using logic. Every person conceived becomes another soul who could potentially burn in hell for not choosing Jesus.

And every person born could be the next Billy Graham and lead millions to Christ. Abortion could stop a major evangelist leading a revival of people back to the Lord like the revivalists of years ago. Abortion is never,ever mercy. Its murder,always.


 
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Yes. I became a Christian when I was in high school. Just because I get angry and frustrated doesn't mean I'm not.
Well, don't let yourself get started again this morning. LOL It's YOUR choice to keep a cool head......... or NOT.
 
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I never said it wasn't murder. I'm simply pointing out the logical problems of people who believe aborted babies go to heaven.
 
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Well, don't let yourself get started again this morning. LOL It's YOUR choice to keep a cool head......... or NOT.
I'm not privy to this conversation--but good reminder!
 
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I just want people to be recognized for what they've done, that's all. Besides, I think most people who become Christians only do it because of the fire-insurance, not because they really love people. If there was no heaven, no anything, after death, would it really be worth it?

Quote "I just want people to be recognized for what they've done"

If you're a Christian,truly following the Lord you don't do anything for the recognition. Totally against what the Bible teaches.Don't let your left hand know what your right hand does.

Quote"Besides, I think most people who become Christians only do it because of the fire-insurance, not because they really love people."

You are judging peoples hearts and intentions. People have given their lives to serve the Lord,have gone to prison,have gone to the mission fields. People have suffered for the gospel,have you?

Quote "If there was no heaven, no anything, after death, would it really be worth it?"

But there is and you better be sure which side you're on.
 
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I didn't say I want recognition. I couldn't care less if I never got any, because I never did anything that isn't different or more important than anyone else.

No, I haven't been through anything like that, and I never wish that for anyone. I just want life on this planet to matter. And I do know which side I'm on.

I'm just not exactly looking forward to floating around forever and missing everything that makes life good.
 
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I didn't say I want recognition. I couldn't care less if I never got any, because I never did anything that isn't different or more important than anyone else.

No, I haven't been through anything like that, and I never wish that for anyone. I just want life on this planet to matter. And I do know which side I'm on.

I'm just not exactly looking forward to floating around forever and missing everything that makes life good.
Can you list what things it is that you feel "makes life good?"
 
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Friends and family for one thing. But if you love everyone else the same way then, what's the point?

I like to travel, but the farthest I've ever been from home is three states away.

I'm also the adventurous type, but a) I don't have enough money, and b) I don't have any opportunities because I have a full time job.
 
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Friends and family for one thing. But if you love everyone else the same way then, what's the point?

I like to travel, but the farthest I've ever been from home is three states away.

I'm also the adventurous type, but a) I don't have enough money, and b) I don't have any opportunities because I have a full time job.
we don't know what your home state is. so if you live say in Rhode Island... 3 states away isn't very far.
 
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I never said it wasn't murder. I'm simply pointing out the logical problems of people who believe aborted babies go to heaven.
This is one of the reasons I am so opposed to the obsession with the concept of a "Rapture."

We (the run of our lives) are each important in some way.... or we would not have been born. Killing a baby eliminates the contribution that specific life would have made to the world. In the same way, just hoping for a "Rapture" bail-out keeps many people from striving to build a life and family.. a future concern and awareness, for God. They seem to get to thinking, "Who cares, as long as I get out of here when that trumpet blows."

What is the ONE thing Jesus cared about more than anything else? (I will wait for your answer to that before I continue) If you think about it, and answer as the Bible showed us, then you may begin to see why each opportunity at living is important.
 
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Then, from your line of thinking, God is no different from the parent who shoves his child down a flight of stairs just so he can comfort him. Or the boyfriend who sends a gang of thugs after his girlfriend so he can go rescue her.

I have read Job, and apparently all God is willing to say is "screw you, I'm right, you're wrong."

Christians have also promoted slavery long before it was abolished, preventing women from getting the right to vote and to be ministers, and teaching people that if they don't obey God they're going to burn in hell for all eternity. Just because something's traditional doesn't mean it's right.

Quote "Then, from your line of thinking, God is no different from the parent who shoves his child down a flight of stairs just so he can comfort him. Or the boyfriend who sends a gang of thugs after his girlfriend so he can go rescue her."

Trials give birth to character,you're too young to understand that yet. Corrie Ten Boom lost her family in the Holocaust and went on to lead many to the Lord through her testimony. The Bible talks about coming forth as pure gold. The Bible also says to take up your cross and follow Him. Jesus was crucified,all His disciples,except one,became martyrs. We weren't promised a life of ease.

Quote " have read Job, and apparently all God is willing to say is "screw you, I'm right, you're wrong."

If thats what you got from reading Job proves you are a very immature Christian. But you're young yet. God,in the end, was saying to Job "my ways are beyond your understanding".

I saw a video the other day of a fawn struggling in a pit of thick mud. It couldn't get out no matter how hard it tried.It was dying.Someone saw the poor fawn and got an excavator and dug away the deep mud around it. Then,very gently, they took the fawn up out of the mud using the machine.The fawn was so exhausted from struggling it didn't fight,it just laid down and enjoyed the ride. Once on solid ground the fawn found its footing and was off to find its mother. Thats a picture of life.We don't know what God is doing,sometimes its painful,we don't like it be we don't see the future. We don't know what He has kept us from. We need to trust the One who knows. Its not easy,but we all have to learn it.
 
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"Corrie Ten Boom lost her family in the Holocaust and went on to lead many to the Lord through her testimony."

Read one of my earlier posts when I said that isn't the case for everyone. A much lesser known woman who lived through the Armenian genocide saw her father die brutally when she was only ten years old. She never got over it for the rest of her life.