Immigration Invasion

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YDo

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Let's see - you have just been attacking p_rehbein and now me, calling us rumour mongers. Are you even old enough to remember when this happened? And what was reported in the news?

And then we are "gossips?"?? I think not!

What I do see is a very angry person attacking long time members. Oh, were you a banned member returning? Your MO sure sounds familiar. (Not that I keep track of all the dysfunctional people here on CC.) You do seem to have some serious grudges. I hope you can learn to forgive people, even if they do not apologize. Because that is what God commands us to do.

"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. 23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift." Matt 5:22-24 ESV

"For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." Matt 6:14-15 NIV

Both verses from the Sermon on the Mount!
I have no idea what you're on about in your deflection screed there.

What I do know is that what you've said doesn't make anyone other than you look bad.

Angry? You don't mean anything to me for me to let my passions go there.
What I recognize is you deflect your responsibility for wrong doing to the furthest extremes. Even bringing the sermon into it. If you knew the truth about Ms.Elliot being the gossip and the truth are all decades old, and you went with the gossip, you're then demonstrating you are opposed to the truth and decided to ignore that so as to keep this discussion side tracked by a lie about a dead woman.

I tell you what, this is from first John chapter 3 and verse 9.

No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You'll have to come to a point where you are able to apologize and then realize only then are you worthy of forgiveness for your wrongs against others. After arriving at that level you'll be ready to find out what repentance and regeneration mean.
 

maxwel

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No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You'll have to come to a point where you are able to apologize and then realize only then are you worthy of forgiveness for your wrongs against others. After arriving at that level you'll be ready to find out what repentance and regeneration mean.

So, if Angela offended you, and you feel she owes you an apology, then she's clearly lost, and needs to get saved?

By that logic, I suppose that if you've offended anyone here, and owe them an apology, you too are lost, and need to get saved.



I truly hope you all get saved.



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You'll have to come to a point where you are able to apologize and then realize only then are you worthy of forgiveness for your wrongs against others. After arriving at that level you'll be ready to find out what repentance and regeneration mean.
OK then, on your standard I'll be waiting for your apology where you implied I'm of the church of Satan in another thread.
 

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I have no idea what you're on about in your deflection screed there.

What I do know is that what you've said doesn't make anyone other than you look bad.

Angry? You don't mean anything to me for me to let my passions go there.
What I recognize is you deflect your responsibility for wrong doing to the furthest extremes. Even bringing the sermon into it. If you knew the truth about Ms.Elliot being the gossip and the truth are all decades old, and you went with the gossip, you're then demonstrating you are opposed to the truth and decided to ignore that so as to keep this discussion side tracked by a lie about a dead woman.

I tell you what, this is from first John chapter 3 and verse 9.

No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

You'll have to come to a point where you are able to apologize and then realize only then are you worthy of forgiveness for your wrongs against others. After arriving at that level you'll be ready to find out what repentance and regeneration mean.

You keep calling me a gossip. Do you even know what the word means? P_rehbein and I were discussing what we heard on the news back in 1974 when Mama Cass died. Then, we both looked up what she died of, and we were both wrong, and said so! We said we were wrong!

Don't bother to post to me anymore! I will have you on ignore.
 
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I never said that.
I expected that seeing your character on here already.

Oh, you most certainly did say this:

I said:

Why would the sodomite King James aka Queen James (look it up) want baptizo rendered immerse when they were sprinkling babies? Let's just transliterate it and hide what it means!! Lol!

And kjvo cultists don't bat an eye even when they're vehemently against sprinkling.

Just another of their fluctuating standards. :)
You responded:

Lord save us from LGBTQ slander against King James. One day.

Clearly church of Satan has pulpits too.
And I said this as to your asinine response:

Pretty hypocritical of you, isn't it, to ascribe someone of the church of Satan while you cry about someone using "lol?"

Grow up callow one.

That Queen James was a sodomite is well documented.
 

YDo

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So, if Angela offended you, and you feel she owes you an apology, then she's clearly lost, and needs to get saved?

By that logic, I suppose that if you've offended anyone here, and owe them an apology, you too are lost, and need to get saved.



I truly hope you all get saved.



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Well we know who hangs together now.
I'll make it easy for you to understand.

Someone who thinks that they should be forgiven when they don't apologize has absolutely no comprehension as to those particulars. Forgiveness. Contrition.

Someone that thinks to be forgiven are admitting they're wrong about something. Otherwise, why would they think forgiveness is in order at all for anything? However, at the same time stating they do not apologize means they do not accept they're done anything wrong to apologize for. And that then repeals their prior expectation of forgiveness.

Now, when someone is that unaware, deficient in the particulars, as relate to committing personal transgressions against another person , they're then woefully unequipped to comprehend the salvation doctrine itself. Which begins with , on the human's part, an act of contrition, repentance, asking forgiveness for what they acknowledge as wrong doings, sins, in their life.

But if we go on the aforementioned dysfunctional model as pertains to human one on one interaction in a social dynamic as relates to wrong doing, expecting forgiveness without apology for wrong doing, then the social principle is devalued because the hubris of the offender expects forgiveness, but doesn't respect admission of error.

The salvation principle then, which also incorporates admission of wrong doing, apology, and forgiveness. The individual that is unconscious of the social dynamic of contrition is incapable of comprehending the ecclesiastical one.
 

YDo

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I expected that seeing your character on here already.

Oh, you most certainly did say this:

I said:



You responded:



And I said this as to your asinine response:

As I said, I did not say what you claimed in your first post. Thank you for going to the trouble of proving it.
My character holds to what I did say. While yours misrepresents the truth of it in order to chastise me and then expect me to apologize for your imagination.


Clearly the church of Satan has pulpits too.
Absolutely! I did say that.
If you think it fits you, so be it. I don't apologize for your behavior. That's on you. If you think that remark fits you that's on you.
There isn't a preacher alive, who represents Jesus Christ and Holy God, that treats people as I've read you to in the short time I've been here.
Therefore, if you're not for that side you must be saying you're a speaker for the other side.
At least you act like it.
 

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The salvation principle then, which also incorporates admission of wrong doing, apology, and forgiveness. The individual that is unconscious of the social dynamic of contrition is incapable of comprehending the ecclesiastical one.
I couldn't agree more.

I'll be praying that you get saved soon.

God Bless.
Max.

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prove-all

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Studies have shown that immigration has a net benefit on the economy.
Whose economy? Can you post sources for this claim ?

Just the opposite, Illegal Immigration Fuels Inequality

A large body of research shows that illegal immigrants are
displacing native-born blacks and Hispanics in the workforce.

Illegal immigration makes the rich richer and the poor poorer. Over the past 50 years, the
illegal immigrant population in the United States has exploded from 500,000 to over 11 million.
https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000844#1969


According to the Migration Policy Institute, 32 percent of illegal immigrants live in poverty,
49 percent lack English skills, and 61 percent lack the equivalent of a high school diploma.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/data/unauthorized-immigrant-population/state/US

This means the vast majority of the nation’s over 6 million illegal workers are employed
in low-skill, low-wage occupations. They compete for jobs and income with the 28 million
adults in the low-skill labor force legally entitled to work in the country.
https://www.nationalskillscoalition...ct-sheets/file/United-States-MiddleSkills.pdf

Adding workers to the labor force lowers wages for those workers. This means wealth is
redistributed from those who compete with immigrants to those who hire immigrants.

Harvard Professor George Borjas found that the wage trend over the past 50 years
suggests that a 10 percent increase in the number of workers with a particular skill set
lowers the average wage of the group by 2.5 percent. By his calculations, immigrants
without a high-school diploma have increased the low-skilled workforce by 25 percent
in the past two decades. As a result, earnings for high-school dropouts have dropped
between $800 and $1,500 per year.

The pool of cheap labor created by illegal immigration saves employers money, but it
makes it harder for low-skill workers to find a job that pays a living wage. Increasing
the minimum wage actually makes things worse for citizens and legal residents.

Since illegals are paid off the books, they are often paid less than minimum wage.
Therefore, there is a financial incentive for employers to hire illegal immigrant
workers instead of legal residents.

According to Borjas, current rates of illegal immigration reduce the wages of workers
by $118 billion a year, while generating $128 billion for employers. This is especially
harmful to blacks and Hispanics, a large proportion of whom live in poverty.
https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-American-Worker

The poorest 20 percent of Americans live in households that make less than $32,400
per year. Most of these households depend heavily on government welfare, with the
average household receiving $12,000 per year in means-tested benefits.
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/cps-finc/finc-06.html
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53597#interactive-graphic
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If an immigrant breaks a nation’s laws and illegally enters the country, the residents have
every right to deport him back to his home country. But if the immigrant is welcomed to stay,
he must be treated the same as a native-born citizen and subjected to the law in the same
manner as a native-born citizen.

Government officials have violated God’s law by allowing millions of illegal immigrants to
live in the country as second-class citizens. They have created a condition where employers
are able to exploit the labor of strangers to the detriment of the poorest and least-educated
Americans. Frustration and resentment is building in America’s poorest neighborhoods.

In more and more cases, this frustration is boiling over into protests and race riots.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/17433-illegal-immigration-fuels-inequality
 

YDo

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As I said, I did not say what you claimed in your first post. Thank you for going to the trouble of proving it.
My character holds to what I did say. While yours misrepresents the truth of it in order to chastise me and then expect me to apologize for your imagination.


Clearly the church of Satan has pulpits too.
Absolutely! I did say that.
If you think it fits you, so be it. I don't apologize for your behavior. That's on you. If you think that remark fits you that's on you.
There isn't a preacher alive, who represents Jesus Christ and Holy God, that treats people as I've read you to in the short time I've been here.
Therefore, if you're not for that side you must be saying you're a speaker for the other side.
At least you act like it.
P.S.
I have a feeling someone I no longer indulge is not just a twin but triplets at the very least. Maybe even Octuplets. I'm too old to indulge such vulgarity. You can reply , I won't see it.
 
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As I said, I did not say what you claimed in your first post. Thank you for going to the trouble of proving it.

Clearly the church of Satan has pulpits too.
Absolutely! I did say that.
If you think it fits you, so be it. I don't apologize for your behavior. That's on you. If you think that remark fits you that's on you.
There isn't a preacher alive, who represents Jesus Christ and Holy God, that treats people as I've read you to in the short time I've been here.
Therefore, if you're not for that side you must be saying you're a speaker for the other side.
At least you act like it.
I get it, not only do you have trouble telling the truth you have double standards. You made the comment about me but as with all caitiff's you're not man enough to own it.
 

Laish

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As I said, I did not say what you claimed in your first post. Thank you for going to the trouble of proving it.
My character holds to what I did say. While yours misrepresents the truth of it in order to chastise me and then expect me to apologize for your imagination.


Clearly the church of Satan has pulpits too.
Absolutely! I did say that.
If you think it fits you, so be it. I don't apologize for your behavior. That's on you. If you think that remark fits you that's on you.
There isn't a preacher alive, who represents Jesus Christ and Holy God, that treats people as I've read you to in the short time I've been here.
Therefore, if you're not for that side you must be saying you're a speaker for the other side.
At least you act like it.
Wow you seem familiar.
Reminds me of a wolf.
Humm
Bill
 

prove-all

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I couldn't find OnceFallen's post, but I will comment on it here. I agree they may be bringing diseases, especially viruses that have jumped the human/animal species barrier, like AIDS and Ebola.

But, they are not bringing small pox. It has been eradicated for years. In the whole world! (Although there may be a few in some secret lab in England I understand. Not sure why!)

Besides, I had the dreadful small pox vaccine as a child. You get a big pox on your arm, that leaves a scar, and you are really sick for days. If somehow small pox got out, I would be the one tending the sick, I guess! Sucks to be old!
Disease Pandemics Are Coming

The four horsemen are depicted in the book of Revelation chapter 6 as the first four of seven “seals.”
These seals are benchmarks of end-time events leading up to and including the return of Jesus Christ.

Together, these legendary horsemen are prophesied “to kill with sword [warfare], with hunger [famine],
with death [pestilence and disease], and by the beasts of the earth” to the extent that one fourth of
mankind will be slain! Widespread disease epidemics and pandemics are symbolized by the fourth
horseman, which rides the pale, or pallid green, horse.

“By the Beasts of the Earth”

Notice that the “beasts of the earth” will have a part to play (Revelation 6:8). This refers to animals
literally attacking humans for food. On the heels of warfare and famine, food will be scarce for animals too.
Moreover, animals such as rats and skunks that become weak and diseased could spread rabies,
for example, to household pets, further endangering humans.

In the original Greek, the phrase “by the beasts of the earth” can also refer to animal-borne disease
that passes on to humans. Thus, the pale horse spreads its deadly curse through yet another phenomenon.
 

YDo

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OK, if Mama can sideline this discussion this should be cake.
The Devil Is In Your Chimney!
Is Santa Claus, Satan?

**link removed**


Big grin. Big!
The other site where the worthwhile worship. You all are brilliant at this.
 
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p_rehbein

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Why cry when your pathetic judgment of a dead woman is pointed out as a lie? If you can't stand the heat don't spit in the kitchen.
You prefer to spread a rumor rather than seek the truth. That's pathetic. No one who points that out is in the wrong. You are wrong. You and those like you here.

Besides that, MC's death is not even in the ballpark of this discussion's topic. But someone just had to dump on a dead woman. And before Christmas.

If works did save, what would working to look like a rumor hound get ya? You may find out.

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Our latest troll eh?

white noise.............ever hear of it? What your comments are