I've lost faith in the church
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Dont you worry HistoryPrincess, justice is coming:
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind.
When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. -- Matthew 13:47-50.
Now, let's not be presumptuous and think we ourselves are exempt, while damning others in a generalized manner, but examine ourselves.
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind.
When it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into containers but threw away the bad. So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous and throw them into the fiery furnace. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. -- Matthew 13:47-50.
Now, let's not be presumptuous and think we ourselves are exempt, while damning others in a generalized manner, but examine ourselves.
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And this is why I love the ending to The Last Battle from the Chronicles of Narnia.
Emeth is let into Aslan's Country (Heaven) because even though he was doing good things in the name of Tash, they were still good things regardless.
Aslan and Tash are complete opposites to the point where good things done in Tash's name are really done in Aslan's name, and bad things done in Aslan's name are really done in the name of Tash.
Emeth is let into Aslan's Country (Heaven) because even though he was doing good things in the name of Tash, they were still good things regardless.
Aslan and Tash are complete opposites to the point where good things done in Tash's name are really done in Aslan's name, and bad things done in Aslan's name are really done in the name of Tash.
With that in mind, it's easy to see why Rishda Tarkaan is sent away with Tash.
He claimed not to believe in Tash or Aslan, yet he still summoned Tash in a ritual. He claimed that Aslan and Tash were one in the same with the intention of using that excuse to conquer Narnia. And when he found out Tash was real, he sought to placate him by putting as many Narnians into the stable as possible (including children), and burn them alive as an offering to Tash.
He claimed not to believe in Tash or Aslan, yet he still summoned Tash in a ritual. He claimed that Aslan and Tash were one in the same with the intention of using that excuse to conquer Narnia. And when he found out Tash was real, he sought to placate him by putting as many Narnians into the stable as possible (including children), and burn them alive as an offering to Tash.
What you have described going on in the church shows me just how badly we need Him. I am so glad that you still have faith in Him, even when people have let you down. Humans break our hearts, He mends them. We should all kinds of things, but even on my best days, I need His strength perfected in my weakness. I read your hurt and frustration and I am so sorry. Perhaps, you can go to a church leader and talk to him about it or maybe find a new church. Either way, it sounds the church needs prayers.
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You probably posted here by mistake?
I'm sure you didn't just get upset and then decide your personal feelings constituted international news... right?
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I understand that you're upset, but this is the News Forum.
You probably posted here by mistake?
I'm sure you didn't just get upset and then decide your personal feelings constituted international news... right?
If you're upset about some particular thing in the news, then you should address that news item.
If you posted in this forum by mistake, you might want to ask the mods to move this to a more appropriate forum.
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Glad I'm not the only one. It's safer to go to a bar than to a church. Sociopaths are protected because they are so pitiful and they can make victim after victim and the victim shouldn't gossip and just forgive. I will try one other church with only women and 3 married men. If that's no good either, you won't see me in church again.
I believed that your estimation has a profound element of truth. Of course, just having the attribute that you mentioned would in itself require grace from God. Seeing as it would be seemingly life-long process to love others as God loves us grace would still be needed, probably in copious qualities. Your spirituality and love of God is shown in each post that you carefully write and I have learned a lot that is now useful in my own spiritual walk with the Lord.
I feel ya OP. But dont give up hope, find a real church. Its tough we are living in times of apostasy now. Because grace and love have been ABSOLUTELY turned into a license to sin and doctrine is no longer taught since its too divise we are dealing with a population of 'Christians' that know "dont judge" and "little wine for your stomach's sake" from the Bible.
Nothing like ranting on the apostasy, its great entertainment. If it wasnt for all the souls being damaged, I would never talk about these kind of apostate churches since I dont really consider them to be Christian churches. BUT because often times the people in the pews are just victims of the wolf behind the pulpit (the guy in his 50s trying to look 20, yeah that guy) I find it helpful to mention how REAL CHURCH is done. Many times the regular pew people WILL realize whats going on once you show them the SCRIPTURES and base your argument on that.
Show them: Bible says Y, your church is doing X.
If they still disagree after plain scripture is shown and say "but my pastor". Well most likely they're not even saved. If they were saved, they would ATLEAST say "Yeah, we are wrong there,but i'll stay anyway." Atleast ACKNOWLEDGE the fact of what the Bible is teaching. Majority of the people DO agree once shown the scriptures, the problem is , they aren't shown in their church.
Nothing like ranting on the apostasy, its great entertainment. If it wasnt for all the souls being damaged, I would never talk about these kind of apostate churches since I dont really consider them to be Christian churches. BUT because often times the people in the pews are just victims of the wolf behind the pulpit (the guy in his 50s trying to look 20, yeah that guy) I find it helpful to mention how REAL CHURCH is done. Many times the regular pew people WILL realize whats going on once you show them the SCRIPTURES and base your argument on that.
Show them: Bible says Y, your church is doing X.
If they still disagree after plain scripture is shown and say "but my pastor". Well most likely they're not even saved. If they were saved, they would ATLEAST say "Yeah, we are wrong there,but i'll stay anyway." Atleast ACKNOWLEDGE the fact of what the Bible is teaching. Majority of the people DO agree once shown the scriptures, the problem is , they aren't shown in their church.