All Da Single Ladies (Who Aren't After a Man's Money), Holla Back!!
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I don't find you to be trolling young Colt, and I think you're right on a lot of things that are not too popular to say in our time and society, at least if the Bible is true. One thing to remember though; with greater power comes greater responsibility. There's always a greater burden put on leaders whether its the husband at the head of his house, the boss of a company, or the king of a nation.
This is a good topic for that. Nobody wants a gold digger, but the man must provide for his family or he is worse than an infidel. It is a pretty hard times to be a man, young or old, but that's just another reason why God's grace is good.
This is a good topic for that. Nobody wants a gold digger, but the man must provide for his family or he is worse than an infidel. It is a pretty hard times to be a man, young or old, but that's just another reason why God's grace is good.
I understand that people are going to have different viewpoints and will take passages from the Bible to support them, but when men say, "I don't believe women should do this! I don't believe women should do that!"
The next thing I'm always expecting them to say is, "I don't believe women should give birth!" And at that point, I want to agree.
The next thing I'm always expecting them to say is, "I don't believe women should give birth!" And at that point, I want to agree.
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ok.....im a professional single woman....i say this because i have been single for 15 or more years....the thing is..i can't have someone other than God taking care of me....because i don't want to feel i owe a man....if he is buying me things and spending his money on me i would feel like he owns me....like i am obligated to him....i can't be owned or bought...i was bought at the cross....if there was a man who loves God first....then i might consider a date....cause to me that is the richest man ...not money...but living for God....i had a man come up to me recently and after asking to spend time with me blurts out...you know I'm rich....i laughed and said no thanks...money brings people trouble...after my needs are met...i don't need more...shopping gives me a headache...and is too much work...the beach if free...so what do i need after that????
I agree, it is one of those problems that is a self-defeating downward spiral. Men become less manly so women become less womanly. Wives no longer are submissive to men so husbands lose all their respect. Men are not respected so they give no respect and so women get maltreated. The elders become foolish so the children become rebellious. The children become masters so the wisdom of the elders is ignored. It is such disorder that precedes the fall of many households and nations.
Isaiah 3:12-26
[SUP]12 [/SUP]As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]The Lord standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,
[SUP]19 [/SUP]The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]The rings, and nose jewels,
[SUP]22 [/SUP]The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.
Isaiah 3:12-26
[SUP]12 [/SUP]As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]The Lord standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,
[SUP]19 [/SUP]The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]The rings, and nose jewels,
[SUP]22 [/SUP]The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.
[SUP]25 [/SUP]Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.
GENTLEMEN (Colt and God Is),
Please note that opinions about the places of women is not the topic of this thread.
It's great if you'd like to discuss that topic, but you need to create your own thread in order to do that (or, if you like, we can ask the mods to move your posts to an new thread title that you create), but that is not the subject at hand here and this is not the thread in which to discuss it.
Thank you for your cooperation in advance.
Please note that opinions about the places of women is not the topic of this thread.
It's great if you'd like to discuss that topic, but you need to create your own thread in order to do that (or, if you like, we can ask the mods to move your posts to an new thread title that you create), but that is not the subject at hand here and this is not the thread in which to discuss it.
Thank you for your cooperation in advance.
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Normally I don't have a problem with people derailing the threads I write. It happens all the time and can turn into some interesting discussions.
But Colt made a very clear post stating his intention was to fight, and this is simply not appropriate.
Sure, fights happen all the time. But if I can do something to stop an attempt to stir up contempt on purpose, (especially in my own thread), then yes, I'll ask the mods to please consider intervening if I have to. As Lynx said, there are hundreds, probably thousands of other places for this other topic to be discussed and even subscribed to.
But Colt made a very clear post stating his intention was to fight, and this is simply not appropriate.
Sure, fights happen all the time. But if I can do something to stop an attempt to stir up contempt on purpose, (especially in my own thread), then yes, I'll ask the mods to please consider intervening if I have to. As Lynx said, there are hundreds, probably thousands of other places for this other topic to be discussed and even subscribed to.
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Funny, the kid not even old enough to buy cigarettes is saying it's a mans job to dominate women, says it is women that brought sin into this world and has a number of adults with more experience and knowledge than he does, but talks about others overstepping bounds.
Tell me, how much psychology experience do you have to say what overstepping bounds are? I think you attitude and mentality oversteps a number of bounds and is dangerous. And history backs my concerns. So you if you expecting me to take a step back, i haven't even begun to start stepping.
And, despite your weak attempt to judge, i don't not agree with female pastors. So you can take your sinful, accusing attitude and keep it to yourself because i just proved that wrong.
Tell me, how much psychology experience do you have to say what overstepping bounds are? I think you attitude and mentality oversteps a number of bounds and is dangerous. And history backs my concerns. So you if you expecting me to take a step back, i haven't even begun to start stepping.
And, despite your weak attempt to judge, i don't not agree with female pastors. So you can take your sinful, accusing attitude and keep it to yourself because i just proved that wrong.
In fact they have plenty of threads discussing this very topic over in Bible Discussions Forum. 
You'll find a lot of people who agree with you AND a lot of people who argue with you. BONUS!
You'll find a lot of people who agree with you AND a lot of people who argue with you. BONUS!
but your post made me smile, so I had to quote it ), which is, indeed, the very definition of trolling. Colt, if your purpose is to argue, I can't stop you.
I am just asking you plainly to not do so in this thread, or any of the others I write, as I'm not shy about going to the administrators to ask if there is something that can be done, and as soon as possible.
Reasonable discussion is always welcome. Online bar fights need to be kept at the bar (or in church--sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.)
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Sorry lady seoul, not meaning to digress too much from the topic. I think it is a good topic though for the pondering. I think the disorder in the role of men and women in our society is interwoven with the subject of gold diggers. I would opine the issue of gold diggers isn't so much an issue of the money itself, but rather respect and order.
The female gold digger doesn't actually respect the man, she just respects money. The gold digger woman eschews to be subservient to men, she will only be serve the man if bribed. If I take away the man's money, the gold digger will fly far away.
This also applies to men. Some men are gold diggers too, perhaps it's more of a problem in my generation than others. They look for a "sugar momma" as it is called in the streets. Typically a much older woman. These men shirk their role as men and leaders for worldly wealth gain and so there is disorder. It is not uncommon for these types of men to cheat on their sugar mommas and do all sorts of Jerry Springer stuff. It's because they don't actually appreciate the woman, they just want her bling.
When things are thrust out of their place there is disorder and when there is disorder there is a cacophony and all the problems that come with it. When everything is in its place there is order and when there is order there is harmony and all the good things that come with it.
The female gold digger doesn't actually respect the man, she just respects money. The gold digger woman eschews to be subservient to men, she will only be serve the man if bribed. If I take away the man's money, the gold digger will fly far away.
This also applies to men. Some men are gold diggers too, perhaps it's more of a problem in my generation than others. They look for a "sugar momma" as it is called in the streets. Typically a much older woman. These men shirk their role as men and leaders for worldly wealth gain and so there is disorder. It is not uncommon for these types of men to cheat on their sugar mommas and do all sorts of Jerry Springer stuff. It's because they don't actually appreciate the woman, they just want her bling.
When things are thrust out of their place there is disorder and when there is disorder there is a cacophony and all the problems that come with it. When everything is in its place there is order and when there is order there is harmony and all the good things that come with it.