Should I be married to two women?

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Tommy379

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Thanks Tommy, this was my thought on it as well. Of course legally I am married to Becca but I am more concerned with the spiritual implications.
Don't thank me. I think you're full of it. And I have no problem indicting you on bigamy violations. I just like the scenario.
 

Dino246

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This situation has so many "if's" and "coulda/shoulda/woulda's" that it boggles the mind.

I'm of the opinion that the second marriage is not valid. Continued "marriage" to both women is not an option at all.
 

blue_ladybug

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The 2nd marriage IS valid, since the first wife was declared legally dead, thus nullifying that marriage..


This situation has so many "if's" and "coulda/shoulda/woulda's" that it boggles the mind.

I'm of the opinion that the second marriage is not valid. Continued "marriage" to both women is not an option at all.
 

Tommy379

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I especially like the part of the story about how his wife was held on spying charges. Reminds me of a thriller.
 

maxwel

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1. If this was real, then it would be so unbearably life-shaking you'd be getting advice from your pastor... probably several pastors along with a therapist.

2. If this was real, your post would be overwhelmed with anguish and emotion.

3. If this was real, we'd have heard something about it on the news... the return of kidnap victims is a rather big deal.

4. So, why are you here, talking to us instead of getting serious counseling; why has no one ever heard about this; and why is your post so logical, organized, and dispassionate... as if you're simply asking a well-constructed hypothetical?

4. Simple answer: this is nonsense.





If you're going to ask hypotheticals, please state them as hypotheticals instead of telling our community a bunch of nonsense.

I'm not amused.






 

seoulsearch

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Well i have to disagree with some people in here marrige is a spiritual matter so just be cause the goverment cannot decide who you are married to. But as you can see im the bible many holy men were married to multiple women so it is perfectly fine.
I have seen many Christians say this--that the forefathers of the Bible had multiple wives, therefore, it must be ok with God and therefore, is perfectly fine for modern-day Christians to take on as well.

On these same grounds--the forefathers of the Bible also owned slaves.

So I have always been curious... By this way of this kind of reasoning, would you also say that slavery is perfectly acceptable for Christians to support and take part in as well?
 

Tommy379

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I have seen many Christians say this--that the forefathers of the Bible had multiple wives, therefore, it must be ok with God and therefore, is perfectly fine for modern-day Christians to take on as well.

On these same grounds--the forefathers of the Bible also owned slaves.

So I have always been curious... By this way of this kind of reasoning, would you also say that slavery is perfectly acceptable for Christians to support and take part in as well?
I think back then, God was trying to meet men where they were. Polygamy and slavery was were they were, and God was reaching out to them.
 

Magenta

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Wow this is quite an interesting situation really just from an intellectual and moral point of view. Biblically I would say yes, you could be married to both and it would not be a sin due to these extraordinary circumstances. However the problem here is of the Law of the Land which is that you may not be married to multiple people. Now your first wife was declared dead, but does this mean your marriage to her is in fact voided in the eyes of God? Well no, for marriage is a bond unto death, real death that is. So then one must ask; is your second marriage therefore invalidated by reason that your bond of marriage to your first wife is still in place? I would have to say no to this as well for you did not put away your wife, but you rather had a legitimate cause to believe your first wife had passed away. I would conclude then that you should ask the wives to be honest and let them decide. If one of the wives wishes to depart then let her depart, but if both wish to remain with you then let that be so and do not prefer one above the other.
It wasn’t until sin made man fall (Gen. 4:23) that polygamy occurs. Cain was cursed, Lamech is a descendent of Cain and the first to practice polygamy.

The first time polygamous relationship is found in the Bible is with a thriving rebellious society in sin; when a murderer named “Lamech [a descendant of Cain] took for himself two wives” (Gen.4:19, 23).

The same Godly pattern of one man and one wife is lived by Noah. At the time of the Ark (Gen. 7:7), Noah took his one wife into the ark, all his son’s took one wife; God called Noah’s family righteous and pure. If polygamy were ordained of God, it would have made sense that Noah and his sons would have taken additional wives with them to repopulate the earth faster from the cataclysm.


This was to be a permanent union between man and woman that they might be helpful to one another (Genesis 2:18). Marriage represents a relationship of both spiritual and physical unity.


Hebrews 13:3-4:“Marriage is honorable among all, and the
bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

Many of the patriarchs took more than one wife. Abraham, by recommendation of Sarah, took her maid. Jacob was tricked through Laban, into taking Leah first, and then Rachel, to whom he had been betrothed. Polygamy was not wrong in ancient cultures, but was a departure from the divine institution that God ordained.


Every polygamist in the Bible like David and Solomon (1 Chron. 14:3)
were punished. This should be evidence that this is not God’s will.
http://www.letusreason.org/Biblexp75.htm
 

RickyZ

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Sorry if this isn't the right place to post this. I signed up for this forum hoping to get some unbiased, biblical Christian advice on a really odd situation that I'm faced with.

When I was 22 I got married to a wonderful Christian woman. We were married for 5 years, and she and her friends took a trip to a country in central Asia (this was in 2011). A few days into her trip I stopped hearing from her, and no one had heard from her friends either. Long story short, they just kind of disappeared, the foreign country's government couldn't find her, and she was legally declared dead (I was shown her US-issued death certificate).

5 years later (2015) I got married to another great Christian woman. We've been married almost 3 years now and are getting along well.

So now the difficult situation; my first wife has come back. Apparently she and her friends were being held by the government of that central Asian country, suspected of being spies. They recently released her, she made it back home, and I was amazed and so happy to see her again.

Right now we (me, my wife, and...my wife?) are talking about having a three-person marriage. We just sort of mentioned it, at this point we haven't really settled on anything.

So my question is this; would it be biblically acceptable for me to be married to both of them? And if not, which one takes precedence? I truly do love them both, but I need to be right with God first and foremost.
I'm feeling very conflicted, as I made a lifelong vow to both of them. Advice/insight would be very much appreciated.

Tl;Dr My first wife disappeared and was declared dead, years later I remarried, now my first wife has come back.
Only a family law attorney can answer this for you

Biblically, once the two make one, wink wink, you are eternally spousal in God's eye. Marriage is just the public confession of that spousal status. Thus, even if you divorce someone, the two of you are STILL in a spousal relationship as far as God is concerned.

But to have two wives? You must be crazy! One is too much to handle! ;)
 

melita916

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Is there proof the 1st wife was arrested/kidnapped/whatever the correct term is? I’m just being nosy.
 
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I especially like the part of the story about how his wife was held on spying charges. Reminds me of a thriller.
[video=youtube;sOnqjkJTMaA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA[/video]
 

ChandlerFan

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Don't thank me. I think you're full of it. And I have no problem indicting you on bigamy violations. I just like the scenario.
Says the guy who openly flirts with multiple women on CC ;)
 
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joefizz

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Says the guy who openly flirts with multiple women on CC ;)
Yeah Tommy just can't help himself,until he finally settles down,well of course what can one expect? God made all creation "beautiful" in his own good time and well women are beautiful so men just don't stand a chance!:cool:
 

Ezekiel8

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It wasn’t until sin made man fall (Gen. 4:23) that polygamy occurs. Cain was cursed, Lamech is a descendent of Cain and the first to practice polygamy.

The first time polygamous relationship is found in the Bible is with a thriving rebellious society in sin; when a murderer named “Lamech [a descendant of Cain] took for himself two wives” (Gen.4:19, 23).

The same Godly pattern of one man and one wife is lived by Noah. At the time of the Ark (Gen. 7:7), Noah took his one wife into the ark, all his son’s took one wife; God called Noah’s family righteous and pure. If polygamy were ordained of God, it would have made sense that Noah and his sons would have taken additional wives with them to repopulate the earth faster from the cataclysm.


This was to be a permanent union between man and woman that they might be helpful to one another (Genesis 2:18). Marriage represents a relationship of both spiritual and physical unity.


Hebrews 13:3-4:“Marriage is honorable among all, and the
bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

Many of the patriarchs took more than one wife. Abraham, by recommendation of Sarah, took her maid. Jacob was tricked through Laban, into taking Leah first, and then Rachel, to whom he had been betrothed. Polygamy was not wrong in ancient cultures, but was a departure from the divine institution that God ordained.


Every polygamist in the Bible like David and Solomon (1 Chron. 14:3)
were punished. This should be evidence that this is not God’s will.
http://www.letusreason.org/Biblexp75.htm
Well it's not recommended, but it is in the Bible. David and Solomon were not punished because they had multiple wives if that's what you're wondering. David was punished because he took Uriah the Hittite's wife and murdered him, you will see in Nathan's rebuke and prophecy to David that he notes that the Lord would add to David many more wives if he so pleased, which is what makes his stealing Uriah's wife and slaying him all the more sinful. Solomon was punished not due to polygamy, but because rather he took wives of foreign races and they beguiled his heart to follow their false gods.

I would say this case here is most akin to Jacob and Leah and Rachel, though the circumstances are a bit different. Nevertheless what you have here is the fellow has not taken two wives because of his own will or a lustful desire to have many women, but rather because of circumstances which befell him. Much the same as Jacob intended only to have the one wife, Rachel, but due the circumstances, he ended up with Leah as well.

I would remind that also it is quite a sin to try to break up a marriage as well. Let not man put asunder that which the Lord God has brought together. The greater sin here than defying the Law of the Land would be to divorce one of the wives if they both wish to remain to the man and possibly cause her to commit adultery and fornication
 
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Tommy379

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I'd like someone to cite any instance when I've flirted with multiple women on this site.
 
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joefizz

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I know I'm not,I still stand by that I don't even know how to flirt and I really prefer not to anyways,though I could be wrong...
Any females out there think I've ever flirted with you and I didn't know it??????
 

melita916

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I was just thinking...

do we see anything in the NT about this subject? Those who are pro-polygamy always go to OT.
 
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joefizz

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I'd like someone to cite any instance when I've flirted with multiple women on this site.
let's see two to 3 whole threads...(though they were obviously in joking)