So Just What Does it Mean to be Masculine or Feminine These Days, Anyway?
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Yes, you hate people and are filled with hateful remarks which come out of your darkened heart. The reason you are here is to mock, ridicule, malign, and show your hate for God.
And I believe you!
Thank you, I thought you wouldn't notice!
Well, I think you'd feel comfortable around those of your own ilk, accept for the fact most of them are going to experience eternal bliss, and you will suffer in a torment beyond your imagination for eternity.
I did exactly what Jesus would have me to do. You need to think hard and long about that.
And I believe you!
Thank you, I thought you wouldn't notice!
Well, I think you'd feel comfortable around those of your own ilk, accept for the fact most of them are going to experience eternal bliss, and you will suffer in a torment beyond your imagination for eternity.
I did exactly what Jesus would have me to do. You need to think hard and long about that.
I haven't been hateful. I think you should re-read what you've posted here. VERY un-Jesus like. You're a MEAN person. And yes, it's because of people like you that Christianity has a bad name.
I don't know if anyone has responded on these two yet...
To the first, my understanding is that Paul was quoting someone else. That statement is simply inconsistent with the rest of his teachings on gender, and there are hints to suggest that it is a quote.
To the second, you might want to read that carefully again. It isn't talking about murdering a child at all, but rather warning the (adult) one who misleads a child of the severe consequences of doing so.
To the first, my understanding is that Paul was quoting someone else. That statement is simply inconsistent with the rest of his teachings on gender, and there are hints to suggest that it is a quote.
To the second, you might want to read that carefully again. It isn't talking about murdering a child at all, but rather warning the (adult) one who misleads a child of the severe consequences of doing so.
Consider the context! That's the first rule for properly understanding any part of the Bible. That psalm was written by someone who was taken forcibly from their home, probably saw their neighbours murdered, and was dragged off to a foreign country with essentially no hope of returning. Their entire way of life was destroyed. Their family members may have perished... horribly. Your closing comment should actually inform you of how the writer probably felt at the time.
Second, the Bible contains the full expression of human emotion, even to the point of wishing horrible death on one's enemies. We don't stay there though, and as Christians, we don't advocate such action at all.
If you think Christians take the entire Bible as an instruction book for today, you are simply wrong. Those who knew God, even under the "Old Testament law" said that He is "slow to anger and abounding in love".
Second, the Bible contains the full expression of human emotion, even to the point of wishing horrible death on one's enemies. We don't stay there though, and as Christians, we don't advocate such action at all.
If you think Christians take the entire Bible as an instruction book for today, you are simply wrong. Those who knew God, even under the "Old Testament law" said that He is "slow to anger and abounding in love".
I WANT OUR THREAD BACK!
We had a nice little thread here once. It was a thread about what being masculine or feminine means to you. It did not have anything to do with homosexuality or male dominance or domestic violence or anything even remotely connected to Christianity or the Bible. In fact the topic of this thread didn't have anything to do with ANY of the arguments here.
But then people came and noticed they could twist the topic into something they could argue about. And since some people really enjoy a good argument, filled with insults and disparagement and misquoting and taking statements out of context, they promptly blew up this thread with all their arguments that had nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
So you have had your arguments and we have a nice helping of high blood pressure all around. Can we call it a day now? Please, can we have our nice thread back?
We had a nice little thread here once. It was a thread about what being masculine or feminine means to you. It did not have anything to do with homosexuality or male dominance or domestic violence or anything even remotely connected to Christianity or the Bible. In fact the topic of this thread didn't have anything to do with ANY of the arguments here.
But then people came and noticed they could twist the topic into something they could argue about. And since some people really enjoy a good argument, filled with insults and disparagement and misquoting and taking statements out of context, they promptly blew up this thread with all their arguments that had nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
So you have had your arguments and we have a nice helping of high blood pressure all around. Can we call it a day now? Please, can we have our nice thread back?
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Was this ever a "nice" thread to start with? I can go back to the beginning and point out several places where people were talking about how "un-feminine" and "un-masculine" people are, and how somehow they aren't seen as the same as everyone else, because they don't act or talk as their supposed to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I read.
He's talking about adults who lead children astray. The Bible doesn't give a clear answer to your question, but God is just, and likely isn't going to condemn a child for wrongdoing in the same way He would an adult.
The Bible states that the punishment for sin is death (in the letter to the Romans, chapter 6, verse 23). It doesn't specify less punishment for lesser sins, or greater punishment for greater ones. However, right after it says that, it says, "but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Each and every one of us have done things that God calls "sin". None of us is righteous before God; all of us are guilty, and all of us deserve death. That is why we need Jesus.
The Bible states that the punishment for sin is death (in the letter to the Romans, chapter 6, verse 23). It doesn't specify less punishment for lesser sins, or greater punishment for greater ones. However, right after it says that, it says, "but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Each and every one of us have done things that God calls "sin". None of us is righteous before God; all of us are guilty, and all of us deserve death. That is why we need Jesus.
You read what you wanted to read. "Oh goody, I can make an argument out of this!"
Why are you here Skyela? You have blatant contempt for Christianity and what Christians believe, as you have expressed many times in many ways in this thread alone. So why did you come here to a Christian forum where people you know you disagree with will be? Why did you seek out threads talking about the things you disagree about?
Are you SEEKING arguments? Is this what you do for fun or something, go around looking for people who disagree with you so you can have a good argument? Is this what you do for recreation?
Why are you here Skyela? You have blatant contempt for Christianity and what Christians believe, as you have expressed many times in many ways in this thread alone. So why did you come here to a Christian forum where people you know you disagree with will be? Why did you seek out threads talking about the things you disagree about?
Are you SEEKING arguments? Is this what you do for fun or something, go around looking for people who disagree with you so you can have a good argument? Is this what you do for recreation?
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Well, oddly enough, it was Lynx who said:
"All I know is it seems to be really important to God that people be able to tell at a glance whether you are a guy or girl. The Bible talks a lot about what pertains to a man or woman, and effeminate men are not regarded highly. (Though the Bible never says anything about butch women... guess that wasn't a problem back then.) But yeah, God seems to care a lot that you look and act like what you are"
So yes, homosexuality is going to be a topic that comes up after a comment like this, naturally. And that was the progression of things, because of comments like these. The God that I have a personal relationship with, doesn't care what I look like, doesn't care if I'm "butch" as he so nicely put it. Some women just aren't built to be tiny and petite, but I guess if we're "butch", we're somehow inferior in God's eyes.
"All I know is it seems to be really important to God that people be able to tell at a glance whether you are a guy or girl. The Bible talks a lot about what pertains to a man or woman, and effeminate men are not regarded highly. (Though the Bible never says anything about butch women... guess that wasn't a problem back then.) But yeah, God seems to care a lot that you look and act like what you are"
So yes, homosexuality is going to be a topic that comes up after a comment like this, naturally. And that was the progression of things, because of comments like these. The God that I have a personal relationship with, doesn't care what I look like, doesn't care if I'm "butch" as he so nicely put it. Some women just aren't built to be tiny and petite, but I guess if we're "butch", we're somehow inferior in God's eyes.