So Just What Does it Mean to be Masculine or Feminine These Days, Anyway?

[Magenta]

Maybe you can clarify some of these passages for me:

https://www.openbible.info/topics/child_abuse

How about this one?

Matthew 5:1-7:29
Seeing the crowds, he went up on the mountain, and when he sat down, his disciples came to him. And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying: “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. …

Do you know who the poor in spirit are? They are those who recognize their need of God. The One True God. The meek are those who humble themselves before God. The One True God.

Skyela, it has been lovely talking with you, I hope you continue to seek the One True God.
I may be back later

 

[Skyela]

Also, curious - do you speak out of turn in church?

"The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church" Corinthians 14:34:-35

Or this one, promoting the murder of children who "misbehave"

“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a great millstone were hung around his neck and he were thrown into the sea. Mark 9:42

Pretty outdated for our times, eh? So is the church's views on LGBTQ people.

 

[Magenta]

Yes, and now that I'm here, I'm reminded as to what turned me completely off of Christianity and Catholicism in the first place. It's funny, because for someone who is supposed to spread the word of God and lead people to "the One", you sure aren't convincing me. Quite the opposite. As I stated before, it's attitudes like yours that keep people from learning more and feeling welcome.

Blaming other people for your decisions does not let you off the hook. Did you really come here to learn? I see no such attitude in you.

 

[theanointedsinner]

I feel that someone's interpretation of the bible will be different then someone else's. Our life experiences shape who we are. We don't all come from the same backgrounds, we've all had our own path to walk in this life. Jesus said numerous times he wouldn't turn his back on anyone, so long as they believe in him. When the bible was written, society was much different. I'm not sure how a modern Christian can follow the bible's "rules" 100%, it's just not possible. I think if people worried less about how feminine or masculine someone else is, and instead put that energy into being a better person in general, doing more for others, and judging less - Jesus would be happy about that.

so that's the fundamental source of why bible people argue against bible people in BDF forums, as long as difference exist, arguments will always exist

 

[Skyela]

Blaming other people for your decisions does not let you off the hook. Did you really come here to learn? I see no such attitude in you.

I don't blame anyone for any of my decisions. When have I done that? lol

 

[Skyela]

so that's the fundamental source of why bible people argue against bible people in BDF forums, as long as difference exist, arguments will always exist

Well, to expect everyone to agree on things 100% of the time is futile. For as long as there have been human beings, there have been disagreements. And it will be that way until the end of time.

 

[theanointedsinner]

Sky, what are you views on the Christian faith?

 

[Skyela]

Oh, gotta love this one too.

"Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" - Psalm 137:9

hahaha. If someone tried to do that to one of my children, they'd be meeting their maker pretty darn quickly.

 

[Dino246]

• Ephesians 5:22-24 ...wives should submit to their husbands etc.
• 1 Timothy 2:11-15 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent etc.
• 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 ...women should remain silent in the churches (and following).
• 1 Corinthians 11:3-16 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man (and following).
• Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
• Peter 3:1-6 Wives in the same way be submissive to your husbands (and following).
• Titus 2: 4-5 Then they can the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands so that no one will malign the word of God.

Oh and this one is just lovely:

"God smites women, children and often animals with equal gusto, he seems to equal evil and wrong doing by association, rather than by being guilty of the personal, individual act: "Behold with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day." (II Chronicles 21:14-15)

Hmmm... nothing about authorizing a husband to beat his disobedient wife with a rod. Can you at least admit that you didn't remember it correctly? As for the rest, context is important, so taking isolated verses and asserting from them that God is evil is somewhat like choosing who you won't vote for by the soundbites their detractors have selected... only the consequences last much longer than four years.

Regarding the last verse, judging anything God does by your standards of right and wrong is simply arrogant. He made you, not the other way around. Perhaps you should suspend your judgment (which you so quickly decry in others) until you have made effort to understand the whole story. At this point, you clearly don't. I didn't either, at first.

 

[Magenta]

I don't blame anyone for any of my decisions. When have I done that? lol

Multiple times you have asserted it is the fault of Christians that people turn away from Christianity, including you. I am done with your lies. Bye.

 

[Skyela]

Hmmm... nothing about authorizing a husband to beat his disobedient wife with a rod. Can you at least admit that you didn't remember it correctly? As for the rest, context is important, so taking isolated verses and asserting from them that God is evil is somewhat like choosing who you won't vote for by the soundbites their detractors have selected... only the consequences last much longer than four years.

Regarding the last verse, judging anything God does by your standards of right and wrong is simply arrogant. He made you, not the other way around. Perhaps you should suspend your judgment (which you so quickly decry in others) until you have made effort to understand the whole story. At this point, you clearly don't. I didn't either, at first.

It's actually to do with children. I remembered it incorrectly. So I guess somehow it's better that the child be beat, not the wife. Hmmm.

"Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him"- Proverbs 13:24

 

[Skyela]

Multiple times you have asserted it is the fault of Christians that people turn away from Christianity, including you. I am done with your lies. Bye.

Funny, I don't recall lying. Your version of a lie is obviously different than mine.

 

[theanointedsinner]

Oh, gotta love this one too.

"Blessed shall he be who takes your little ones and dashes them against the rock!" - Psalm 137:9

hahaha. If someone tried to do that to one of my children, they'd be meeting their maker pretty darn quickly.

I see how it can look bad in the Bible, but psalms is a book of expressive feelings similar to Psalms 3:7

Strike all my enemies on the jaw; break the teeth of the wicked (Psalms 3:7)

and most of psalms are laments. In that situation, back then, they were cornered and they were forced to give a song when the enemy of Israelite humiliate them, and they sang that song with verses you've taken notice on Psalms 137:9 which says that no humans are perfect, and they do have resentment in their heart, and they do express that resentment to God, and God is merciful to listen,

the fact that we have resentment is clear indication that we can sin by the heart, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23)

 

[preacher4truth]

Funny, I don't recall lying. Your version of a lie is obviously different than mine.

Magenta has her own issues of fabricating, so don't take it too seriously.

But on to you:

Actually you're correct about some Christians turning others away. But it goes further than that, they want the excuse because the carnal mind hates God. You also hate God and you hate his people as well.

That, and another zinger, you were never a Christian; 1 John 2:19.

 

[theanointedsinner]

Skyela, consider this,

the characters of Jesus is the following: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, and self-control

if reality is ruled by a deity

what would you rather the universe be ruled by?
Christ-like deity
or a
non-Christ-like deity?

 

[Skyela]

Magenta has her own issues of fabricating, so don't take it too seriously.

But on to you:

Actually you're correct about some Christians turning others away. But it goes further than that, they want the excuse because the carnal mind hates God. You also hate God and you hate his people as well.

That, and another zinger, you were never a Christian; 1 John 2:19.

I hate people? I think not. Your post is ridiculous. And yes, you're right, I've NEVER been Christian, never claimed to be. Glad I'm not, because who'd want to congregate with hateful people such as yourself? You're the reason people don't go to church and don't want to even learn about Jesus. Congratulations for doing the complete opposite that Jesus asked you to do.

 

[theanointedsinner]

I've NEVER been Christian, never claimed to be. Glad I'm not, because who'd want to congregate with hateful people such as yourself? You're the reason people don't go to church and don't want to even learn about Jesus. Congratulations for doing the complete opposite that Jesus asked you to do.

is people of the Christian faith the main reason you refrain from becoming a Christian?

 

[preacher4truth]

I hate people?

Yes, you hate people and are filled with hateful remarks which come out of your darkened heart. The reason you are here is to mock, ridicule, malign, and show your hate for God.

I think not.

And I believe you!

Your post is ridiculous.

Thank you, I thought you wouldn't notice!

And yes, you're right, I've NEVER been Christian, never claimed to be. Glad I'm not, because who'd want to congregate with hateful people such as yourself?

Well, I think you'd feel comfortable around those of your own ilk, accept for the fact most of them are going to experience eternal bliss, and you will suffer in a torment beyond your imagination for eternity.

You're the reason people don't go to church and don't want to even learn about Jesus. Congratulations for doing the complete opposite that Jesus asked you to do.

I did exactly what Jesus would have me to do. You need to think hard and long about that.

 

[theanointedsinner]

Yes, you hate people and are filled with hateful remarks which come out of your darkened heart. The reason you are here is to mock, ridicule, malign, and show your hate for God.



And I believe you!



Thank you, I thought you wouldn't notice!



Well, I think you'd feel comfortable around those of your own ilk, accept for the fact most of them are going to experience eternal bliss, and you will suffer in a torment beyond your imagination for eternity.



I did exactly what Jesus would have me to do. You need to think hard and long about that.

the gospel is pretty much, be humbled by sin, and that God give grace to the humble, so humility becomes required

we didn't "make up" the gospel, the gospel was originally God's idea in the first place

 

[Jennie-Mae]

• Ephesians 5:22-24 ...wives should submit to their husbands etc.
• 1 Timothy 2:11-15 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent etc.
• 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 ...women should remain silent in the churches (and following).
• 1 Corinthians 11:3-16 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man (and following).
• Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
• Peter 3:1-6 Wives in the same way be submissive to your husbands (and following).
• Titus 2: 4-5 Then they can the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands so that no one will malign the word of God.

Oh and this one is just lovely:

"God smites women, children and often animals with equal gusto, he seems to equal evil and wrong doing by association, rather than by being guilty of the personal, individual act: "Behold with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day." (II Chronicles 21:14-15)

To me, submitting to my husband is a joy. He’s the one protecting the family and being the main breadwinner. I am the one taking care of the domestic chores and, yes, I have a nice job myself, but it can’t be compared to his.

A woman can’t really protect a family like a man can. That’s a fact.