I didn't see anyone saying childbirth was the worst pain ever. I saw people (including myself) defending the validity of the fear of the pain and the pain itself. I guess maybe I missed the original post where someone said your pain wasn't that bad? I dunno, I was only reading about the response to childbirth.
Pain is subjective, but like Chandler said - pain is pain, whether you're prepared for it or not. When I went in to get my blood drawn today, I knew it would hurt. But...it still hurt. Knowing it would hurt didn't diminish the pain of when they dug around in my arm and couldn't find a vein so had to poke my hand. Was that pain the worst that could have happened? No, but it still hurt (darn my hiding veins).
I'm sorry that you felt...I don't know the right word...unheard? That wasn't my intent and I don't think it was anyone's intent, here. I didn't mean to play the "gender card", only that men cannot tell women what child birth should be like. Just like a woman can't tell a man what getting kicked in the groin should be like. Neither one will ever know what it's like because we are the gender that we are.
There are things we all wish we had instead of what we do have. I knew a tall, gorgeous blonde who had heart problems. Her hands would get cold constantly, she would randomly faint, she also had asthma. But I thought, "I'd rather be gorgeous like that and have those problems than be me and have the physical/health problems I have." That's wrong of me, because it diminishes her issues/pain, and shows that the mindset I have of myself is also wrong. Maybe that's besides the point.
If that makes sense.
It's very simple.
-A poster makes a post with concerns about child birth in the distant future
-I relay a personal story and say cheer up, even the most painful experiences in life can still make us stronger
-Several single women decide to take offense that I would ever consider weighing in on what child birth might feel like
-Fear is mentioned as the prime motivator
-I show the statistical probability of dying during childbirth is quite low
-I keep getting harassed for saying childbirth isn't that bad
-I finally decide the heck with it, I'm done here
-Some of the women on here who have had children chime in and say it
isn't the worst thing in the world
So why are we even bothering with this discussion.
I'm not changing my stance. Childbirth is not the worst pain imaginable. This isn't the outside world where no one is allowed to have an opinion about the opposite gender, it's CC.
And I'm
not the guy you all have a problem with. I'm not one of the misogynistic radical abusive dirt bags who like to spew their hatred all over, and I'm not some bitter husk of a man who sits and whines all day. In fact, I've had discussions before supporting some of you who were so quick to lynch me. I've gone out of my way to let some of the people who went on this tirade know they were appreciated.
So I'll say it again, message received. There is no reason for me to bother trying to discus this any more, and it looks suspiciously like there is no reason for me to invest much time on here either when as soon as something related to gender comes up everyone here just turns passive aggressive.
