What is the Difference Between Confidence and Delusion? Can Knowing the Difference Save Us From a Lot of Heartache?

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Karlon

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Hey Everyone,

Some recent conversations here in the threads had me pondering something I've thought about for a long time. What is the difference between people having high self-confidence -- and just plain being delusional?

What I mean is, what is the difference between being confident in who you are in Christ and who you are as a person, but having expectations that border on pure fantasy?

Let's look at the movie, "The Fifth Element," as a case study.

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In this film, Korben Dallas (Bruce Willis,) is assigned to an undercover mission:

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The miliary tells him they are assigning a female officer to pose as his wife:

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But you see, Korben has already met Leeloo (Milla Jovovich):

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And as could be predicted, he quickly evades the military officers in order to pursue Leeloo instead.


This is the scientist in charge of Leeloo's when she was brought under government watch. The actor playing this character is only 1 year older than Bruce Willis (Korben.)

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Let's look at some real-life age differences between the actors playing these characters:

1. Bruce Willis (Korben) is 20 years older than Milla Jovovich (Leeloo.)

2. Bruce Willis is 9 years older than the actress (Julie T. Wallace) playing the military woman assigned to be his wife. Both women are younger, but Milla is MUCH younger, and so it seems that the military woman who was to pose as his wife is much closer in age, and, perhaps, more "socially appropriate." But obviously... This woman looks a bit... different... than Leeloo.

3. Christopher Fairbank (the scientist) is 1 year older than Bruce Willis -- so they're practically the same age. If age alone were the determining factor, both of these men should have an equal shot at winning Leeloo over.

But we all know who the younger, hotter woman winds up with:





Now of course, there are all kinds of other factors at play here, most notably personal preferences. Some people might not find any of these people attractive; some might be attracted to the more everyday-looking ones -- because we all know everyone has different tastes.

But here's my point -- we all know, or have known, people around us (or even ourselves) who look like the military wife and the scientist.

But we also all know a woman who might look like the military wife -- pretty, but not society's "ideal" -- but she thinks she's going to land a Bruce Willis (Korben Dallas.)

And we all know a man who looks like the scientist -- handsome, but also not society's "ideal" -- but he thinks he's going to score a Leeloo (a younger, much hotter woman.)

The "military wife" and the "scientist" might be much closer in age and much closer to each other on the attractiveness "scale", but chances are high that many people like this won't want each other. Rather, they are each going to pass over anyone like themselves, and keep on looking for their Bruce Willis or for their Leeloo. This will be doubly so if they are Christian, because they will believe that God wants only "THE BEST" for them, and they will believe that the best means whatever they want most. Most don't realize, or won't admit, that God's best for us is often much different than what we think is the best.

And, chances are, a lot people like this are going to experience a lot of heartache in the process -- often growing bitter that they haven't found the man or woman of their dreams.

If we were more realistic about ourselves and what we attract, would we spare ourselves a lot of grief?

(Continued in Post #2 to Make This Easier to Read.)
delusion is a false sense of security & confidence backed with the devil's tempting. it also occurs when we begin to 2nd guess ourselves & beyond. too, you start believing what is easy to believe & when others around you believe in the same thing.
 

Lynx

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Aug 13, 2014
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Like a lot of amazing people on this thread, think you were just born a couple of decades too late Lynx. It's beyond gutting somebody as clever and witty as you, thinks a six is something to aspire to.
My generation was one of the last to view people as a package, course we thought "phwoar" about hot people but smart, funny, kind, lovely people etc often got their day in the sun too. Large gaps in supposed attractiveness were pretty common at the time, common enough for popular songs to be written about it, like this one from Joe Jackson in 1978/9:

Joe Jackson Is She Really Going Out With Him -

Reading through this thread is so saddening, the world's gone mad, had a nervous breakdown and i don't think it's going to recover.
You haven't seen my gut. Or my bad teeth. Or my grey hair. Or my widow's peak...

Actually if you see a picture of just my face, I'm about a 7.
 

Texasgal

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Some of us gals (hags) pushing 50 has a hard time in front of the mirror. Not even makeup can do the magic anymore. Then there’s guys in their 60s still looking good and being chased by gals in their 30s or 40s. And these women have solid careers and don’t need his money.
 

tourist

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#64
I remember the infancy of your courtship with Darlene, and the love blossoming as yous were all goo-goo ga-ga to each other as one inspired the other's creative genius. I love you both and twice as much so as one.
Thank you for your kind words. I guess that we put on quite a show.