What Would Happen to the Structure of the Christian Family If Most Men Became House Husbands?

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OutWrite Trouble
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Hey Everyone,

The last thread asking about how many men would not want their wives to work brought out an interesting answer. At least one very courageous man in the poll voted that he would like to be a house husband with a wife who provides.

I have seen many a passionate, heated speeches over the years about how evil feminist women who wanted to work destroyed the Godly structure of the family -- and I can understand the reasons as to why some feel this way. ANY agenda pushed too far over the line is eventually going to topple something.

But I have never, to my knowledge, ever seen a discussion about what would happen if the opposite occurred -- what if men took up in droves and insisted on being house husbands?

The thing is, I personally believe it's already happened in many cases -- it's just not formalized or at the forefront of legal battles in the news. Now I must issue a disclaimer here: because I am a woman, it's most often women who talk to me about their lives, and I have known many women who have a house husband by default. In most cases, it was either because he didn't want to work, or he lost his job, couldn't find another and gave up trying, so now he stays at home all day, mostly watching TV.

However, as with anything situation, there are always some good people mixed in. I have also known a few wonderful house husbands who very much take care of the housework, cooking, and shuttling kids to and from school and all their activities while their wife works. After all, we are all called to different positions in life.

I grew up in a family of movers and shakers -- type-A personalities with business-minded, supernatural energy levels and work ethics that were applied to anything they approached -- whether it was making it to the top of a company or moving stones to finally balance a church budget, they would set a goal and worked tirelessly towards it.

It took me a lifetime to finally figure out that this is not me, and even longer to try to communicate to my family that I am not one of those go, go, GO! - type people -- BUT, I AM happiest when I'm working as a useful, productive assistant to someone who is like them (a morally strong, hard-working leader.) I am more than willing to work my tail off for someone I believe in to the best of my abilities.

And I also came to realize that many men might not be type-A CEO's either, but are probably more than happy working and serving in assistant-type jobs and/or more domestic roles. Not everyone has to conquer some type of profession in order to do what God has called them to do.

I have only read the bare bones basics about groups such as Men Going Their Own Way, but it seems that their common foundation is (though I'm sure they don't see it this way,) based on fear -- the fear of failing, the fear of not being what society expects them to be, and the fear of not finding a woman who is willing to get close to them -- therefore, they want to set their own rules, do their own thing, and live life on their own terms. I think nearly every human being feels this way to an extent, but as we know, extremes hurt everyone.

I have to wonder if, as this fear grows, whether ingrained or pushed over the lines by societal pressure, more and more men will wish they could find a woman who would "take care of things," most especially if they were raised by strong mothers who actually DID take care of everything as they were growing up. I know I have seemed to find this often within the dating pool -- a subset of men, or maybe men who are just more vulnerable, who are looking for a partner who can step forward and ease, or take a good chunk of the burdens of life off their shoulders.

And I do think this could work in some situations.

But yet, this is something I never see talked about in Christian circles:

* What would happen to the structure of the family if more and more men want to step back and take lesser roles within the family?

* How does this affect their spiritual leadership?

* Is it ok if a man leads in every other way except financial responsibility? How would that play out?


I personally believe that God might have very well called some men to be house husbands, and some women to be providers for their families. But I do think they would be facing some possibly unique challenges or approaches as far as establishing the working roles within the family.

Perhaps I could be wrong.

I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts.
 

Lynx

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Hmm... I've heard it discussed sometimes.

There's an old song: "Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo, now don't tell me I've nothing to do."

Star Trek: The Next Generation had an episode set on Angel One, a planet where women were in charge and men had a subservient role.

The second book of The Stainless Steel Rat was set on such a world. One of the army drivers was a man who, when things got tough, whimpered something about all he wanted was to be a good house husband.

I personally know a guy named Mark who has some kind of heart condition they never have been able to pinpoint. His wife Rae works and he stays home and does his best to take care of things.
 

Robertt

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would love to stay home while a woman earned the money to keep me in the lifesyle i enjoy.
 
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akaDorthy

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Men are to be providers, not homemakers.

1 Timothy 5:8
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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There are many women who could afford me.. but sadly they can also afford Brad Pitt lol
Lol, Robertt.

This truly make me laugh out loud. :ROFL:

P.S. If it's any comfort, Brad Pitt has a troubling history with alcoholism and, assumedly (I don't like to assume, but from what we can tell by the fruit,) not a Christian.

I'm not saying at all that someone who struggles with alcohol can't get married, I'm just saying that from my point of view, being with someone with Brad Pitt's track record would be way more trouble than just staying single. :unsure:
 

jennymae

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Interesting thoughts. I think that would depend on both the woman and man in question. Society has, at least that’s my impression, certain expectations of which arrangement a family should have. That will vary from country to country and of course from place to place within a country.

In Norway, where I’m currently residing, a household husband is not very common. People expect the man to be the provider. A wife can work, but she can also be a stay at home mom. A man staying at home would be subject to gossip. In town you only see women with their kids. Occasionally you can see a man with a baby, but it’s easy to see that it’s not something he’s used to be doing.

This country likes to portray itself as a liberal, gender equality society, but truth be told it’s very traditional. For a woman it’s easier to make a career back in the states than here. As a woman you can be tricked into thinking that you’re an equal, and yes, getting assistant positions are quite easy, but the executives are men.
 

Robertt

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Lol, Robertt.

This truly make me laugh out loud. :ROFL:

P.S. If it's any comfort, Brad Pitt has a troubling history with alcoholism and, assumedly (I don't like to assume, but from what we can tell by the fruit,) not a Christian.

I'm not saying at all that someone who struggles with alcohol can't get married, I'm just saying that from my point of view, being with someone with Brad Pitt's track record would be way more trouble than just staying single. :unsure:
well being single i choose alcohol too..

Only on dates do i not drink .. unless my datee drinks too...
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
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Men are to be providers, not homemakers.

1 Timothy 5:8

Very interesting... the Bible I have quotes 1 Timothy 5 as saying: "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially their own families, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

But is "Anyone" to be translated as strictly being men?

* What about men who serve in the military and lose limbs, suffer brain injuries, and become disabled?

* Likewise, what about men who are in car accidents, are hurt on the job, or have health problems and can no longer work?

* What roles can they take on to give them a Godly sense of worth and contribution?
 

Robertt

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Very interesting... the Bible I have quotes 1 Timothy 5 as saying: "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially their own families, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

But is "Anyone" to be translated as strictly being men?

* What about men who serve in the military and lose limbs, suffer brain injuries, and become disabled?

* Likewise, what about men who are in car accidents, are hurt on the job, or have health problems and can no longer work?

* What roles can they take on to give them a Godly sense of worth and contribution?
too many people quote scriptures without referring to WHOLE of BIBLE to know Gods intent.
 
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akaDorthy

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Very interesting... the Bible I have quotes 1 Timothy 5 as saying: "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially their own families, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."
yeah, it's a shame that so many translations floating around today have changed the wording and meaning of words so far from original translations.
Then people wonder why there is so much confusion about what the Word says and actually means.
 

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OutWrite Trouble
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Men are to be providers, not homemakers.

1 Timothy 5:8
Very interesting... the Bible I have quotes 1 Timothy 5 as saying: "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially their own families, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever."

But is "Anyone" to be translated as strictly being men?

* What about men who serve in the military and lose limbs, suffer brain injuries, and become disabled?

* Likewise, what about men who are in car accidents, are hurt on the job, or have health problems and can no longer work?

* What roles can they take on to give them a Godly sense of worth and contribution?
yeah, it's a shame that so many translations floating around today have changed the wording and meaning of words so far from original translations.
Then people wonder why there is so much confusion about what the Word says and actually means.
But going back to the original set of questions I listed in Post #10, what do you believe should then happen with men who become disabled, injured, or no longer able to work if their only role is to provide?
 

Robertt

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REfer to the greek word used for ANYONE .

anthropos (ἄνθρωπος, ) is used (a) generally, of “a human being, male or female,” without reference to sex or nationality

hmmm problem answered.

the KJV is not always the best translation ... need to go to the original GREEK
 

JohnDB

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:popcorn:
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Robertt

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But going back to the original set of questions I listed in Post #10, what do you believe should then happen with men who become disabled, injured, or no longer able to work if their only role is to provide?
and what happens to disabled or injiured women who cannot perform as in Prov 31. hmmmm

the world is so complex.. lucky the bible is so easy ....
 
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akaDorthy

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But going back to the original set of questions I listed in Post #10, what do you believe should then happen with men who become disabled, injured, or no longer able to work if their only role is to provide?
What does it matter what I think?
Have you taken all these questions before the Lord?
He is the One Who can answer them for you.

What you are asking here about injured, disabled, ect is FAR DIFFERENT from the man being a stay at home husband because it's what he wants to do.
 

JohnDB

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salted or caramel flavour
I'm trying to subscribe as I'm watching about the Avery case in Wisconsin.

It's obvious that the two are not guilty

But also that since I watched the Kyle Rittenhouse trial....

Then that guy who crashed through the Christmas Parade and murdered the Dancing Grannies.

I am positive that there's no way I would ever step foot into their state.

I'm absolutely disgusted with their "justice".
 

Robertt

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What does it matter what I think?
Have you taken all these questions before the Lord?
He is the One Who can answer them for you.

What you are asking here about injured, disabled, ect is FAR DIFFERENT from the man being a stay at home husband because it's what he wants to do.
but if the wife is providing why should the man also take a job. perhaps he is called to ministry. no payments at all. perhaps he is a volunteer for some social agency.

Again as long as someone is providing the scripture is clear it is not MEN only who should provide.