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Well brother Nautilus, I fought with Jesus Christ for many, many years, and some of those years I used to get really high and read 4chan, etc. I'm just regurgitating here and trying to keep this is at a PG-13 level....
As I quoted Wikipedia in post #130:
I have no idea to what extent this is psychological vs. spiritual--I can't discern it. The Blood of the Lamb works either way (1 Peter 2:24) so all I can think of is to pray for him.
1 Cor 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: ...
As I quoted Wikipedia in post #130:
I have no idea to what extent this is psychological vs. spiritual--I can't discern it. The Blood of the Lamb works either way (1 Peter 2:24) so all I can think of is to pray for him.
1 Cor 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: ...
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It's just one person. She accused me of this and that yet when I ask her to explain she backs out. Somebody else asked her to explain and all we got is it's sweeping generalizations. I said it's personal experience.
She does this with others too. When it gets theological there's no scripture usually to back her position. It seems she doesn't like being taught by men so assumes the role of teacher herself.
She does this with others too. When it gets theological there's no scripture usually to back her position. It seems she doesn't like being taught by men so assumes the role of teacher herself.
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Buckets, you certainly didn't offend me. My post was mainly in response to the certain member accusing me of making others feel bad and fishing to be consoled. I was just trying to lighten the mood and maybe hint that some were being harsh in their criticism of American women and teenagers. Anyways!! I didn't intend on making anyone feel wronged or not accepted. People have the right to state their opinion, whatever that may entail. If you prefer Asian women for whatever reason, by all means prefer them! Who am I to question your personal analysis of a whole race of women... But let me just say the color of your skin and the national allegiance you hold does not directly determine your quality of kindness, sweetness, sexual purity, femininity, morality standards, or gentleness. I believe such categorizing is a form of looking through rose colored glasses.*insert picture here of a guy looking through huge pink tinted shades.*
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Genesis 3:16 CJB
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pain in childbirth. You will bring forth children in pain. Your desire will be toward your husband, but he will rule over you."
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pain in childbirth. You will bring forth children in pain. Your desire will be toward your husband, but he will rule over you."
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This helps the numbers I mean
1. What you said was offensive
people being offensive to you doesn't change that
2. You said American High School girls, I am one it was offensive because it implied all in high school are the same
you putting a question mark after saying I am godly is offensive
I don't question if you say you are not sinful
do not question when I say I am not
I do not sleep around because it is ugly in God's eyes
opprotunity has nothing to do with me refusing to sin
3. Again UnGodliness is everywhere if you are jaded against American schools I would say you need to visit other countries and see bad is everywhere
4. Your post implied non Americans don't have teen pregnancy issues and that it's the girls fault alone she is pregnant
5. Teen boys are just as responsible
It takes two to make a baby
guys can turn away from the sin of fornication as easily as girls
guys can tempt girls
girls can tempt guys
both boys and girls are responsible for teen pregnancy
a girl can't get pregnant without a guy it's impossible excluding Mary
teen girls who recieve immaculate conception have not sinned though I believe that is only Mary
6. I am not angry sorry you read that I was anger is not only a sin but also a secondary emotion
it is a lack of self control that leads to anger
I was offended not angered by your post
your statement in five is that girls carry the blame in teen fornication so I don't get where I misread what you imply
don't use the word of God to preach your point to me it's blasphemy because it implies what you said I should hear when that was scripture about hearing the word of God
God did not say Asian teens are more godly than American teens you did
7. I agree it was is not generalizations alone I have no interest in you because you are not kind in your posts
8. I must have misunderstood you when you said that while American teens are fornicating Asian women are doing this... To me it reads that you are saying all American teens are fornicating
if that's what you meant I stand by all I said
if you meant some then okay you make a point in some way
9. Anyone desperate to find anything beside Christ and do his work is not following what he said
I said you seem to be but I was wrong to say that I don't know you
and it was off subject
you do talk a lot about not having a girl and I am confused why that seems so important
it may not be though so I am sorry I made an assumption
10. You said send me a girl like this (the post was about teens) sorry I read it as what you meant And this was the most offensive part
11. I clearly said any woman who does not agree with that post to correct me
I do not claim to speak for all women
but as others have shown many women will see it as I did
if I misunderstood it sorry but regardless of my age I am a girl
I also if missunderstood what you said will stand behind that many other girls will read it as I did
I may be 14 but would guess I know how many women think
Sorry if you thought I was angry
also I did not mean to be attacking you
though by your response I read you took it that way
thus I am responsible for me not you and need to apologize
I will say that your response shows what I meant by much of what I said
maybe a girl in your mind should react positive to how you talk to us
but I fear many will be like me and turned away from you
of course you could say the same for me boys may not like how I say this stuff
Art I did not mean to imply you are a bad guy, I don't think that
I simply don't think you see how you come across to this girl
as suggested I won't speak for others
but to me it was offensive
To me it implied American girls all fornicate
since it was about teens and the Asian girls were teens
you saying send me one to me read like you were asking for a teen girl in school uniform
since that was what was in the post
that was offensive
I now see you didn't intend it that way thus I think you don't get how you come across to this one girl
(Me)
Since I don't see myself as completely rare and unlike everyone else
I don't think I'm alone in how I read what you post
again any girls who think I'm crazy, bonkers or simply wrong correct me
1. What you said was offensive
people being offensive to you doesn't change that2. You said American High School girls, I am one
it was offensive because it implied all in high school are the same you putting a question mark after saying I am godly is offensive
I don't question if you say you are not sinful
do not question when I say I am not
I do not sleep around because it is ugly in God's eyes
opprotunity has nothing to do with me refusing to sin
3. Again UnGodliness is everywhere
if you are jaded against American schools I would say you need to visit other countries and see bad is everywhere4. Your post implied non Americans don't have teen pregnancy issues and that it's the girls fault alone she is pregnant
5. Teen boys are just as responsible
It takes two to make a baby
guys can turn away from the sin of fornication as easily as girls
guys can tempt girls
girls can tempt guys
both boys and girls are responsible for teen pregnancy
a girl can't get pregnant without a guy it's impossible excluding Mary
teen girls who recieve immaculate conception have not sinned though I believe that is only Mary
6. I am not angry sorry you read that I was
anger is not only a sin but also a secondary emotionit is a lack of self control that leads to anger
I was offended not angered by your post
your statement in five is that girls carry the blame in teen fornication so I don't get where I misread what you imply
don't use the word of God to preach your point to me it's blasphemy because it implies what you said I should hear when that was scripture about hearing the word of God
God did not say Asian teens are more godly than American teens you did
7. I agree it was is not generalizations alone
I have no interest in you because you are not kind in your posts 8. I must have misunderstood you when you said that while American teens are fornicating Asian women are doing this... To me it reads that you are saying all American teens are fornicating
if that's what you meant I stand by all I said
if you meant some then okay you make a point in some way
9. Anyone desperate to find anything beside Christ and do his work is not following what he said
I said you seem to be but I was wrong to say that
I don't know you and it was off subject
you do talk a lot about not having a girl and I am confused why that seems so important
it may not be though so I am sorry I made an assumption
10. You said send me a girl like this (the post was about teens) sorry I read it as what you meant And this was the most offensive part
11. I clearly said any woman who does not agree with that post to correct me
I do not claim to speak for all women
but as others have shown many women will see it as I did
if I misunderstood it sorry but regardless of my age I am a girl
I also if missunderstood what you said will stand behind that many other girls will read it as I did
I may be 14 but would guess I know how many women think
Sorry if you thought I was angry
also I did not mean to be attacking you
though by your response I read you took it that way
thus I am responsible for me not you and need to apologize
I will say that your response shows what I meant by much of what I said
maybe a girl in your mind should react positive to how you talk to us
but I fear many will be like me and turned away from you
of course you could say the same for me
boys may not like how I say this stuffArt I did not mean to imply you are a bad guy, I don't think that
I simply don't think you see how you come across to this girl
as suggested I won't speak for others
but to me it was offensive
To me it implied American girls all fornicate
since it was about teens and the Asian girls were teens
you saying send me one to me read like you were asking for a teen girl in school uniform
since that was what was in the post
that was offensive
I now see you didn't intend it that way thus I think you don't get how you come across to this one girl
(Me)
Since I don't see myself as completely rare and unlike everyone else
I don't think I'm alone in how I read what you post
again any girls who think I'm crazy, bonkers or simply wrong correct me
Pray for wisdom, and God will surely give it liberally! Let's not be insulting and surmising with illogicalness, okay?
You ... didn't really respond reasonably at all. sigh ... Young buckets, allow me to make it very simple for you: answering a No with a Yes Yes is not logical; you've dismissed alot of what I told you as false and simply restated yourself; even after I corrected your false view of my own words, you stubbornly disregarded anything I said; and since this is the case, my view of you now is not of a wise young Christian, but of a deceitful, fractious girl. It seems that you took no time to even consider what I said, and so I will not continue.
Pray for wisdom, and God will surely give it liberally! Let's not be insulting and surmising with illogicalness, okay?
Pray for wisdom, and God will surely give it liberally! Let's not be insulting and surmising with illogicalness, okay?
Well, guess what? To answer one of your excruciatingly self-serving threads, you just proved why you are still single. Your behavior is belittling, abusive, and unbecoming to a son of God. You should apologize to her and seek counseling to find out why you feel the need to assert dominance over young girls.
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What? Yes, teenage boys are just as responsible. It takes 2 to tango. Two individuals with free will are equally responsible for consequences of sin that they both willingly engaged in. How do you figure that is girl is more responsible for a pregnancy than a boy?
Yes, teenage boys are just as responsible. It takes 2 to tango. Two individuals with free will are equally responsible for consequences of sin that they both willingly engaged in. How do you figure that is girl is more responsible for a pregnancy than a boy?
teen pregnancy is a real issue but guess what the girls aren't getting pregnant with each other
therefore American teen boys who chase girls are just as responsible
I said,
5. Teen boys are just as responsible? To take care of that baby-- that's what you should mean. Other than that, unless he raped her, then she bears a greater part of being responsible for the sin. There is no use to level the blame here. He can't do anything unless she allows it (unless it's rape, again).
First off, buckets created a man of straw when she uttered that against me. Although she made this statement, it was not properly applicable to what she was responding to. She was responding to this, "But while high schoolers here in America are committing fornication and having babies, etc." She assumed wrongfully that I laid the entire blame on the female while (according to her) excusing the male. In the spiritual aspect, both have sinned who have fornicated. There was no reason why such an implication was to be made; for her to do so is prejudiced and insulting.
What? Yes, teenage boys are just as responsible. It takes 2 to tango. Two individuals with free will are equally responsible for consequences of sin that they both willingly engaged in.
Yes, teenage boys are just as responsible. It takes 2 to tango. Two individuals with free will are equally responsible for consequences of sin that they both willingly engaged in.
I've answered this question right before your eyes. "He can't do anything unless she allows it." Since it is her body, her womb, and her vagina, and since (according to your view of free will) she is responsible to reject advances as well as accept them, and she is not making the advances herself, and she is of a sound mind to reasonably know her circumstance, then the responsibility is hers to reject and to flee or accept and please herself in fornicating. Taking rape out of the context entirely (because that would be an entirely different problem) and dealing with our situation in the matters of personal choice and consequence, then the woman would be of greater (and yes, this is not completely excluding the male component) responsibility in this issue, because the gravity of the consequences would lay on her far more severely physically and morally; she would be called into question as to why she allowed the situation to keep going and didn't reject and say No. For her to answer that she was tempted is no excuse whatsoever (remember Eve?) and no logical individual will accept that as an alleviation of her wrong, but her own argument to palliate her choice to fornicate. Every attempt should be made in conveniently leveling the blame and avoiding the examination of our necessary actions and reactions.
And I did not conveniently rob the young man of any responsibility; my statement makes it clear that he is responsible to care for his own. And so he won't be completely without any guilt, but is forced to bear the fruit of his own choices in providing for the child (and this is mandated in American law if the young man refuses to do so).
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Talk to her like ... what? If you have a problem with what I've said, then you shouldn't have been replying to someone else's mail. I didn't insult her at all, but simply expressed my sadness to her reply. And now I do the same to you.
Or I could help her to make better choices later by replying to her and explaining to her how to be more logical next time. "You could do this ... You could do that ... instead of ... " How absurd.
Again, like what? You're not making yourself very clear. You're obviously speaking with an irrational anger. I will not countenance this.
Degrading? Nonsense. But you're entitled to your opinion and your right of expression as I am to mine. It seems that you should have kept Ignoring me if this was your response. I will now Ignore you
It seems that you're not far off from your own description of me. I neither belittled her (for I answered her thoroughly before) nor abused her (for I never used any abusive of loaded terms, and I respect her for her good answers). But your rash anger is so awful that I will now block you completely and go on with those that know how to talk with reason here in CC.
Goodbye.
Or I could help her to make better choices later by replying to her and explaining to her how to be more logical next time. "You could do this ... You could do that ... instead of ... " How absurd.
Again, like what? You're not making yourself very clear. You're obviously speaking with an irrational anger. I will not countenance this.
Degrading? Nonsense. But you're entitled to your opinion and your right of expression as I am to mine. It seems that you should have kept Ignoring me if this was your response. I will now Ignore you
It seems that you're not far off from your own description of me. I neither belittled her (for I answered her thoroughly before) nor abused her (for I never used any abusive of loaded terms, and I respect her for her good answers). But your rash anger is so awful that I will now block you completely and go on with those that know how to talk with reason here in CC.
Goodbye.
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This is so terrible ... just just terrible how far a professing child of God can sink; much much deeper than a worldly person.
Solomon's wise exhortation is key here: Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.
He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.
Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
Assert dominance?! lol. This is how bad sin can corrupt our thinking. This calumny is from satan himself, and I will not fight the devil, for he has been defeated by Christ.
Solomon's wise exhortation is key here: Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.
He that is slow to wrath is of great understanding: but he that is hasty of spirit exalteth folly.
Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: for the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
Assert dominance?! lol. This is how bad sin can corrupt our thinking. This calumny is from satan himself, and I will not fight the devil, for he has been defeated by Christ.
You ... didn't really respond reasonably at all. sigh ... Young buckets, allow me to make it very simple for you: answering a No with a Yes Yes is not logical; you've dismissed alot of what I told you as false and simply restated yourself; even after I corrected your false view of my own words, you stubbornly disregarded anything I said; and since this is the case, my view of you now is not of a wise young Christian, but of a deceitful, fractious girl. It seems that you took no time to even consider what I said, and so I will not continue.
Pray for wisdom, and God will surely give it liberally! Let's not be insulting and surmising with illogicalness, okay?
Pray for wisdom, and God will surely give it liberally! Let's not be insulting and surmising with illogicalness, okay?
I still feel you misunderstand me also Art please know there is a difference between me disagreeing with you and not being ChristianI feel like since I didn't agree with you, you are saying I sinned. It's kinda not nice to say that but maybe I misunderstand you saying you don't see me as a Christian because I think you are wrong.
You think I'm wrong and I don't question your Christianity. But I don't think that everyone who disagrees with you means they aren't Christians
Sorry I created this problem. I was offended by your original post here. If I misunderstood the post that does not change that I was offended.
When I say yes you saying no no is the same as me saying yes yes
this wasn't a Biblical discussion it was a discussion about your statement
if I misunderstood you fine but if I don't agree with you that doesn't mean I don't follow Christ
its like you have judged me because I think you are wrong
Caling me deceitful is offensive
I am sure you will say I shouldn't be offended and that I am just arguing
but I never lied or deceived anyone
I simply shared my opinions
Also sorry if I don't understand what you mean by deceitful which is possible
Last all I can do is apologize
I have been kind to you in the past and will continue
I can't promise to always agree with you which is what it feels like you are asking me to do
Personally I don't think we communicate or understand each other
I stand by that teen pregnancy is not the girls fault. That guys and girls in sin do this. The girl can tempt the guy the guy can tempt the girl. Either can say no. I have even at my age had guys attempt to get me into this sin. I can refuse, which I have just like a guy can refuse
Sorry I so offended you. It was not my intentions.
I ask one thing accept my apology and don't assume I am wrong because I don't agree with you
if willing I will do the same in return
Please know I mean no disrespect but what you wrote that I'm replying to reads to me like you are saying I'm not Christian. That is hurtful if that's what you are saying. I spend all my time when not in school trying to serve God and if you my brother in Christ see me as I nonbeliever I have failed miserably in the only thing in this world that matters to me.
All that said I can't lie and say I agree with you when I don't. In the future if my opinions on a subject differ from yours I will keep them to myself.
the diecetful remark was uncalled for. I can be wrong and not be lying which is what it seems you said. That sense I'm wrong I deceived others.
Again sorry like I say in the future if I disagree with you I won't share it.
I can agree with you that I misunderstood your original statement I still feel you misunderstand me also Art please know there is a difference between me disagreeing with you and not being Christian
I feel like since I didn't agree with you, you are saying I sinned. It's kinda not nice to say that but maybe I misunderstand you saying you don't see me as a Christian because I think you are wrong.
You think I'm wrong and I don't question your Christianity. But I don't think that everyone who disagrees with you means they aren't Christians
Sorry I created this problem. I was offended by your original post here. If I misunderstood the post that does not change that I was offended.
When I say yes you saying no no is the same as me saying yes yes
this wasn't a Biblical discussion it was a discussion about your statement
if I misunderstood you fine but if I don't agree with you that doesn't mean I don't follow Christ
its like you have judged me because I think you are wrong
Caling me deceitful is offensive
I am sure you will say I shouldn't be offended and that I am just arguing
but I never lied or deceived anyone
I simply shared my opinions
Also sorry if I don't understand what you mean by deceitful which is possible
Last all I can do is apologize
I have been kind to you in the past and will continue
I can't promise to always agree with you which is what it feels like you are asking me to do
Personally I don't think we communicate or understand each other
I stand by that teen pregnancy is not the girls fault. That guys and girls in sin do this. The girl can tempt the guy the guy can tempt the girl. Either can say no. I have even at my age had guys attempt to get me into this sin. I can refuse, which I have just like a guy can refuse
Sorry I so offended you. It was not my intentions.
I ask one thing accept my apology and don't assume I am wrong because I don't agree with you
if willing I will do the same in return
Please know I mean no disrespect but what you wrote that I'm replying to reads to me like you are saying I'm not Christian. That is hurtful if that's what you are saying. I spend all my time when not in school trying to serve God and if you my brother in Christ see me as I nonbeliever I have failed miserably in the only thing in this world that matters to me.
All that said I can't lie and say I agree with you when I don't. In the future if my opinions on a subject differ from yours I will keep them to myself.
the diecetful remark was uncalled for. I can be wrong and not be lying which is what it seems you said. That sense I'm wrong I deceived others.
Again sorry like I say in the future if I disagree with you I won't share it.
I still feel you misunderstand me also Art please know there is a difference between me disagreeing with you and not being ChristianI feel like since I didn't agree with you, you are saying I sinned. It's kinda not nice to say that but maybe I misunderstand you saying you don't see me as a Christian because I think you are wrong.
You think I'm wrong and I don't question your Christianity. But I don't think that everyone who disagrees with you means they aren't Christians
Sorry I created this problem. I was offended by your original post here. If I misunderstood the post that does not change that I was offended.
When I say yes you saying no no is the same as me saying yes yes
this wasn't a Biblical discussion it was a discussion about your statement
if I misunderstood you fine but if I don't agree with you that doesn't mean I don't follow Christ
its like you have judged me because I think you are wrong
Caling me deceitful is offensive
I am sure you will say I shouldn't be offended and that I am just arguing
but I never lied or deceived anyone
I simply shared my opinions
Also sorry if I don't understand what you mean by deceitful which is possible
Last all I can do is apologize
I have been kind to you in the past and will continue
I can't promise to always agree with you which is what it feels like you are asking me to do
Personally I don't think we communicate or understand each other
I stand by that teen pregnancy is not the girls fault. That guys and girls in sin do this. The girl can tempt the guy the guy can tempt the girl. Either can say no. I have even at my age had guys attempt to get me into this sin. I can refuse, which I have just like a guy can refuse
Sorry I so offended you. It was not my intentions.
I ask one thing accept my apology and don't assume I am wrong because I don't agree with you
if willing I will do the same in return
Please know I mean no disrespect but what you wrote that I'm replying to reads to me like you are saying I'm not Christian. That is hurtful if that's what you are saying. I spend all my time when not in school trying to serve God and if you my brother in Christ see me as I nonbeliever I have failed miserably in the only thing in this world that matters to me.
All that said I can't lie and say I agree with you when I don't. In the future if my opinions on a subject differ from yours I will keep them to myself.
the diecetful remark was uncalled for. I can be wrong and not be lying which is what it seems you said. That sense I'm wrong I deceived others.
Again sorry like I say in the future if I disagree with you I won't share it.
I pray you continue to grow in the grace and wisdom of the Lord.If I may, I would like to tell you something I learned the hard way: don't apologize if you didn't do anything wrong. That doesn't include if you accidentally bump into someone or something like that. I'm talking about if you are ever interacting with someone who makes you feel like you need to apologize all the time, and they never do, then that is a dead give-away for a controlling personality. That is the first step on the path to an abusive relationship. I counted 5 apologies in your reply, and Art has demonstrated an arrogant, controlling nature. If you can think of several times that you have apologized, but the other person hasn't, then you should probably stop all interactions with them.
Blessings and honor to you, precious daughter of God!
Buckets, you are so sweet! And your posts show a wisdom beyond your years. Reading what you write gives me hope for the younger generation. I pray you continue to grow in the grace and wisdom of the Lord.
If I may, I would like to tell you something I learned the hard way: don't apologize if you didn't do anything wrong. That doesn't include if you accidentally bump into someone or something like that. I'm talking about if you are ever interacting with someone who makes you feel like you need to apologize all the time, and they never do, then that is a dead give-away for a controlling personality. That is the first step on the path to an abusive relationship. I counted 5 apologies in your reply, and Art has demonstrated an arrogant, controlling nature. If you can think of several times that you have apologized, but the other person hasn't, then you should probably stop all interactions with them.
Blessings and honor to you, precious daughter of God!
I pray you continue to grow in the grace and wisdom of the Lord.If I may, I would like to tell you something I learned the hard way: don't apologize if you didn't do anything wrong. That doesn't include if you accidentally bump into someone or something like that. I'm talking about if you are ever interacting with someone who makes you feel like you need to apologize all the time, and they never do, then that is a dead give-away for a controlling personality. That is the first step on the path to an abusive relationship. I counted 5 apologies in your reply, and Art has demonstrated an arrogant, controlling nature. If you can think of several times that you have apologized, but the other person hasn't, then you should probably stop all interactions with them.
Blessings and honor to you, precious daughter of God!
I was really worried that I had sin and so I showed all I said and the response by Art to my Dad
Of course my Dad isn't the authority on sin or wrong for everyone
but he is both my Dad and my minister and he's quite qualified to be both He not only is a minister but was previously a professor of Theology and Psychology
he has instructed me that I did not misspeak nor did I sinThank you for reassuring me
I feel bad but he told me to put Art on ignore and to not respond to himso I have to recant my previous post because I need to obey my Dad
I don't think it appropriate for me to share what my Dad said about the posts
it was Christian just not something I want to share You are awesome and thanks for the support
hope I can continue to grow as you mentioned
it helps having good Christian friends like yourself
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Well guess what else? As if you can talk. You accused me of racism and sexism and when I asked you couldn't even prove it. Such accusations are rather demeaning and despicable and unbecoming of a daughter of God. When somebody else asked you to prove it, you said it was all generalizations. This isn't defined as racism nor sexism. It seems you jump at every chance to have a go at the menfolk when they've seemingly done something wrong whether behavioral or incorrectly used scripture (according to you and you're not a teacher nor a bible scholar - correct me if I'm wrong) .
Here's some verses for you:
1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour
Revelations 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
I couldn't be bothered finding the verse(s) about having a silver tongue.
Here's some verses for you:
1 Peter 5:8 Be of sober spirit, be on the alert. Your adversary, the devil, prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour
Revelations 12:10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying,“Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
I couldn't be bothered finding the verse(s) about having a silver tongue.
Art, my brother, I have always been gentle with you, but as your sister in Christ I believe I need to speak up. Please know that I say this in love, and not in condemnation.
It does not matter if buckets agrees with you. It does not matter if you think she is wrong. She is your SISTER IN CHRIST. She is created in the image of God, she has CHRIST dwelling in her heart, and she is a daughter of the most high God.
If you had participated in more of our candid threads (as I have encouraged) and taken the time to get to know her, you would see her sweet spirit and profound love for Christ!
It is perfectly acceptable to disagree and even correct/rebuke one another. That is part of how we learn and grow! But we ought to do so with a spirit of love and gentleness, ESPECIALLY if the brother or sister whom we are correcting is significantly younger.
It is true that Jesus himself sometimes used harsh words when he was rebuking others, but He only did that when facing those with truly prideful or wicked hearts. To everyone else, he spoke firmly and with conviction, but also with LOVE.
Men of God are charged to treat younger Christian women as they would treat their own sisters: with all purity. (1 Timothy 5:2) Would you call your sister a "Deceitful, fractious girl"? I pray that you would not.
Also, since I know you have a great desire to meet and marry a lovely woman of God (a wonderful goal, I might add!), I would encourage you to evaluate the manner in which you speak to young girls. A woman of God may witness your harshness and wonder if you would do the same thing to your future daughters, or even to your future wife. As a woman myself, my heart was in agony when I read your response to Buckets. Just because someone disagrees with you does not give you the right to stop expressing kindness to them.
Even though I am extremely offended by the way you have treated our sister Buckets, and even though I vehemently disagree with some of your views and beliefs, I refuse to call you names or "yell" at you about it, because you are my brother. I know you will probably get angry with me for posting this, and others on the forum will probably be annoyed that I posted instead of simply ignoring the quarrel here.. but I prayed about it before posting and I still felt led to say something.
to Buckets: thank you for being a living, breathing example of 1 Timothy 4:12. I love you!
It does not matter if buckets agrees with you. It does not matter if you think she is wrong. She is your SISTER IN CHRIST. She is created in the image of God, she has CHRIST dwelling in her heart, and she is a daughter of the most high God.
If you had participated in more of our candid threads (as I have encouraged) and taken the time to get to know her, you would see her sweet spirit and profound love for Christ!
It is perfectly acceptable to disagree and even correct/rebuke one another. That is part of how we learn and grow!
But we ought to do so with a spirit of love and gentleness, ESPECIALLY if the brother or sister whom we are correcting is significantly younger. It is true that Jesus himself sometimes used harsh words when he was rebuking others, but He only did that when facing those with truly prideful or wicked hearts. To everyone else, he spoke firmly and with conviction, but also with LOVE.
Men of God are charged to treat younger Christian women as they would treat their own sisters: with all purity. (1 Timothy 5:2) Would you call your sister a "Deceitful, fractious girl"? I pray that you would not.
Also, since I know you have a great desire to meet and marry a lovely woman of God (a wonderful goal, I might add!), I would encourage you to evaluate the manner in which you speak to young girls. A woman of God may witness your harshness and wonder if you would do the same thing to your future daughters, or even to your future wife. As a woman myself, my heart was in agony when I read your response to Buckets.
Just because someone disagrees with you does not give you the right to stop expressing kindness to them. Even though I am extremely offended by the way you have treated our sister Buckets, and even though I vehemently disagree with some of your views and beliefs, I refuse to call you names or "yell" at you about it, because you are my brother. I know you will probably get angry with me for posting this, and others on the forum will probably be annoyed that I posted instead of simply ignoring the quarrel here.. but I prayed about it before posting and I still felt led to say something.
to Buckets: thank you for being a living, breathing example of 1 Timothy 4:12.
I love you!