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Would you spray paint a Church of God?????? our bodies are temples for the Holy-Spirit why would you defile it with ink? Also ALOT of satanist have their art they tattoo blessed by evil forces and it can give them ground to be in your life by willingly getting a tattoo on you, beware of this device of satan i strongly believe.
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And God hates iniquity ! Do you think it's Lord's Will to strengthen the hands of sinners and to condemn the Lord's servants who dare to denounce sin so that sinners could be brought to repentance ?
Why so many people think they could get away with any kind of sin under the banner of " love " ?
This is utterly disgusting !
YOU should read your Holy Book before casting stones at others righteous judgement :
It's also written : " Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord. " Leviticus 19:28 ( KJV )
If you have a problem with that Lord's command, that's not with me you have a problem, it's with the Lord's command itself you have a problem, for the Holy Scriptures don't come from men, but they come from the Lord !
And it's valid for all times, present, past, and future,
contrary to what heretics teach to get away with sin !
They think they could get away with sin under the banner of " love " and " old fashioned " Scriptures, but the Lord's Judgement will not get away with them !
Why so many people think they could get away with any kind of sin under the banner of " love " ?
This is utterly disgusting !
YOU should read your Holy Book before casting stones at others righteous judgement :
It's also written : " Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord. " Leviticus 19:28 ( KJV )
If you have a problem with that Lord's command, that's not with me you have a problem, it's with the Lord's command itself you have a problem, for the Holy Scriptures don't come from men, but they come from the Lord !
And it's valid for all times, present, past, and future,
contrary to what heretics teach to get away with sin !
They think they could get away with sin under the banner of " love " and " old fashioned " Scriptures, but the Lord's Judgement will not get away with them !
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As Christians we should not use excuses just to be able to do something that is wrong. having piercing and tatoos are WRONG in the eyesight of God. It can not be written any better in leviticus 19: 28. Make up has nothing to do with this. We who has ears let him listen. It is wise to exept correction eventhough is not what we wanted or expected.
No harm meant at all, every one wants something thats not really healty for them in Christianity, but we have to make a choice who we serve.
God Bless
No harm meant at all, every one wants something thats not really healty for them in Christianity, but we have to make a choice who we serve.
God Bless
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As a girl, I only have two piercings(on my ears). I guess other than that is a deviant action already. In the Bible, people who have tattoos and piercings are slaves. And I think that's also applicable in this generation. Those people who have pierces and tattoos are also obsessed with that kind of deviant art.
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Agreed, however those of us who were not raised in the church and rooted in the teachings of God have marks from a time before we were saved. I am one of those people. However, we can not abuse grace as an excuse to disobey God. No more than we should use it as an excuse to continue any sin. I was convicted and stopped my former ways and I let people know who ask about the ink in my skin to this day why I changed. This gives the opportunity to share my testimony and to share the gospel. But what does it say for those Christian people who continue to do so after they are saved. I don't believe that is a good example to the world for so many believers to justify and continue with these practices. This is my personal opinion and there is no condemnation in Jesus Christ. Romans 6: 1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer. Verses 3-4 go on to say that those of us who were baptized were baptized into his death we therefore were also buried with him through baptism into his death and this was done so that just as Christ died and was resurrected through the glory of God we also may have new life. verses 3-4 are paraphrased not word for word I'm going from memory. A new life a new creation so why would we keep old ways?
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Exactly ! in todays society there are may different methods used to appear a certain way, i am pro makeup however i do understand that it is a mask.
I think the only issue about tatoos and piercings is not if you get them, but why you get them. i have my ears pierced and i will probably get a tattoos of יהוה on my wrist. My reasoning is that God will be holding my hand through all the struggles of life. <3
I think the only issue about tatoos and piercings is not if you get them, but why you get them. i have my ears pierced and i will probably get a tattoos of יהוה on my wrist. My reasoning is that God will be holding my hand through all the struggles of life. <3
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1st, this is a teen forum, right? 35 yr olds posting on here? why? creepers
Anyways....
the key phrase in this verse you quoted is "for the dead", so any of those "RIP" tattoos are out, and anything with skulls and such. but there is no clear Biblical principle here other than death worship is sin. Dragonslayer, you should be slow to speak, my brother.
This is in the same set of laws that condemn the eating of pork, command a proper way to rid a house of mold, and command that you have to go sleep outside the city if you have wet dream.
Do you eat pork? I know I love bacon. I call ServePro if I have a mold problem. I haven't had a wet dream since 7th grade, but I don't remember having to go sleep outside the city after it happened. I have these liberties, because I am a Gentile, and because Jesus fulfilled this law.
All these laws were for the Israelite people only. We are no longer under this law. Do not place your brothers back under this law, or you condemn yourself by it. Read Romans, then 1st Corinthians.
The other verse supporting this claim, that tattoos and piercings are sin, is "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit".
Re-read that verse in context. It is talking about sexual immorality. It has nothing to do with this.
I will not get tattoos, because I know it causes others to sin, by judging. <<< re-read this line if you disagree with the rest of my post. Then post your response.
Anyways....
the key phrase in this verse you quoted is "for the dead", so any of those "RIP" tattoos are out, and anything with skulls and such. but there is no clear Biblical principle here other than death worship is sin. Dragonslayer, you should be slow to speak, my brother.
This is in the same set of laws that condemn the eating of pork, command a proper way to rid a house of mold, and command that you have to go sleep outside the city if you have wet dream.
Do you eat pork? I know I love bacon. I call ServePro if I have a mold problem. I haven't had a wet dream since 7th grade, but I don't remember having to go sleep outside the city after it happened. I have these liberties, because I am a Gentile, and because Jesus fulfilled this law.
All these laws were for the Israelite people only. We are no longer under this law. Do not place your brothers back under this law, or you condemn yourself by it. Read Romans, then 1st Corinthians.
The other verse supporting this claim, that tattoos and piercings are sin, is "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit".
Re-read that verse in context. It is talking about sexual immorality. It has nothing to do with this.
I will not get tattoos, because I know it causes others to sin, by judging. <<< re-read this line if you disagree with the rest of my post. Then post your response.
The Bible warns us against cuttings in our flesh in Leviticus 19:28 which says, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord
now before u say that it says for the dead, you will see nor print any marks on ur body. this dosent mean marks, but only if they glorify christ, or as long as its not blasphamus. it is ANY marks.
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
How does peircings glorify Christ/God? Your body is not ur own, u do not own it
If u do not own it, how then, can u edited or change it? - You dont own it and therefore cany change it
Has God himself, giving u his perimsiion to graffitte his creation.
Caleb- when i was on MSN nd put the webcam on, i said somethin like, im not great, or something, and u said God has designed u with perfection. How then can it be perfection, if u r wanting and trying to change it.
As Chrisitans, we want to be as Christ-like as possible. Sin as little as we can resist and have and show good testimonies. So y then, would we want to change the one thing that we have most in comman with the Lord Jesus Saviour. We are created in the image of God, is this not good enogh for u? God has given u a colour of skin, he has chosen every tiny detail up to whether u have freckles or not. Y change what he has created - if he wanted prints on u he would have made u that way.
And dont even bring up birthmarks. - Coz thats what they did on the Tattoos thread - God put them there
Another scripture that warns us not to disfigure our bodies is "You are the sons of the LORD your God: you shall not cut yourselves, or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead."
When it speaks here about doing this in relation to the dead; this was a witchcraft rite done to mourn or remember their dead, so cutting, piercing and tattooing have its origin in witchcraft practices. The verse below reveals a connection between foreign gods and earrings.
"Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments: 3 And let us arise, and go up to Bethel; and I will make there an altar unto God, who answered me in the day of my distress, and was with me in the way which I went. 4 And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem."
"In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon, 19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers, 20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,21 The rings, and nose jewels,22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins, 23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the veils."
This is what makes it spiritually dangerous for people. People not realizing this opens the door for Satanic attack because they
have a mark or opening which allows the enemy entrance in their lives. Today this practice is growing because of false religions and pagan influences infiltrating the church.
there is some more - but i think this enough for u to think about.
but here is some extra food for thought.
In the bible, God phrophesises that one of the signs of the times will be the leader, who has 666 on his head. This man will regin for 7 years.
I personally belive that it will be a chip inserted into ur head or the back of ur hand. And each chip has a unique number. I belive this number will then be tattooed onto our bodies. ( except us obv )
Now it has been tested with chips that the most effective places in the body where they work the best is the back of the hand and the head ( just as it is prophesiesed )
also.
it is also prophesised that no money will be needed. In new york they have introudesed this thing for efficenicy :
u know when u go shopping, and u put everything u want 2 buy into a troley - then take it out and then put it back in. Well for efficentcy shops r now putting a speical frame round their door. They have had a few customers have a a chip implaneted and now they just walk through the door ( with special frame) and the frame reads everything in the trolley - reads the chip number and deposits it straight out of ur bank account.
I belive that the world has accepted, griaffetiing ur body so much by tattoos and pericings etc etc that they will welcome this with open arms and see no wrong against it. I think the mark of the beast and others alike willl be in the form of a tatoo
just somehting 2 think about
- Hope its not to long and i hope i answered any questions u have in mind - if not feel free to ask
now before u say that it says for the dead, you will see nor print any marks on ur body. this dosent mean marks, but only if they glorify christ, or as long as its not blasphamus. it is ANY marks.
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
How does peircings glorify Christ/God? Your body is not ur own, u do not own it
If u do not own it, how then, can u edited or change it? - You dont own it and therefore cany change it
Has God himself, giving u his perimsiion to graffitte his creation.
Caleb- when i was on MSN nd put the webcam on, i said somethin like, im not great, or something, and u said God has designed u with perfection. How then can it be perfection, if u r wanting and trying to change it.
As Chrisitans, we want to be as Christ-like as possible. Sin as little as we can resist and have and show good testimonies. So y then, would we want to change the one thing that we have most in comman with the Lord Jesus Saviour. We are created in the image of God, is this not good enogh for u? God has given u a colour of skin, he has chosen every tiny detail up to whether u have freckles or not. Y change what he has created - if he wanted prints on u he would have made u that way.
And dont even bring up birthmarks. - Coz thats what they did on the Tattoos thread - God put them there
Another scripture that warns us not to disfigure our bodies is "You are the sons of the LORD your God: you shall not cut yourselves, or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead."
When it speaks here about doing this in relation to the dead; this was a witchcraft rite done to mourn or remember their dead, so cutting, piercing and tattooing have its origin in witchcraft practices. The verse below reveals a connection between foreign gods and earrings.
"Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments: 3 And let us arise, and go up to Bethel; and I will make there an altar unto God, who answered me in the day of my distress, and was with me in the way which I went. 4 And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem."
"In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon, 19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers, 20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,21 The rings, and nose jewels,22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins, 23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the veils."
This is what makes it spiritually dangerous for people. People not realizing this opens the door for Satanic attack because they
have a mark or opening which allows the enemy entrance in their lives. Today this practice is growing because of false religions and pagan influences infiltrating the church.
there is some more - but i think this enough for u to think about.
but here is some extra food for thought.
In the bible, God phrophesises that one of the signs of the times will be the leader, who has 666 on his head. This man will regin for 7 years.
I personally belive that it will be a chip inserted into ur head or the back of ur hand. And each chip has a unique number. I belive this number will then be tattooed onto our bodies. ( except us obv )
Now it has been tested with chips that the most effective places in the body where they work the best is the back of the hand and the head ( just as it is prophesiesed )
also.
it is also prophesised that no money will be needed. In new york they have introudesed this thing for efficenicy :
u know when u go shopping, and u put everything u want 2 buy into a troley - then take it out and then put it back in. Well for efficentcy shops r now putting a speical frame round their door. They have had a few customers have a a chip implaneted and now they just walk through the door ( with special frame) and the frame reads everything in the trolley - reads the chip number and deposits it straight out of ur bank account.
I belive that the world has accepted, griaffetiing ur body so much by tattoos and pericings etc etc that they will welcome this with open arms and see no wrong against it. I think the mark of the beast and others alike willl be in the form of a tatoo
just somehting 2 think about
- Hope its not to long and i hope i answered any questions u have in mind - if not feel free to ask
Alot of times i am the person described here, it's the worst thing to be. You can come with the right message but the deliverance is so cold and harsh that it could push any one away! All the words get thrown out the window and the listener is stuck with 93% hostility and 7% emptiness. Although it do disagree with marking the flesh and cutting it on purpose (Marking can also be residual scars from piercing)
ALSO some one said they are not getting piercings for satanic reason, but because they want them. But isn't one type of satanism were you do what every you want no matter if it is good or bad? (Rhetorical id rather it not open for discussion so I don't start a fight.)
ALSO some one said they are not getting piercings for satanic reason, but because they want them. But isn't one type of satanism were you do what every you want no matter if it is good or bad? (Rhetorical id rather it not open for discussion so I don't start a fight.)
Just another well said thing. Sometimes we need to let the other people sin, because if we even point out their folly when they are not ready or do it in a harsh manor we will loose brothers in Christ (Sorry to repeat this, but it is something I am struggling with, this is actually helping me realize! (Kinda at least learning something else from her although I was able to look past her presentation and see what she was saying, but in person a christian of any type might be like "yea ya yea, what ever" and in this manor we might actually drive the spirit out of the listener and put hate in their eyes)
I showed you a whole post that the recipient felt was degrading, judgmental, and condescending. Did you already forget that? I did not say you were judging others or unloving in your intent, but the way you are expressing yourself is showing both of those things in spades. Perhaps you need to review how you word your posts and rather than post from a point of passion, take a step back and post from a point of intelligently thought-through and fully considered reasoning. If I post when I'm at my most passionate, I'd have been booted off of this site already. It's part of maturity.
I have not forgotten thanks - i asked you to show me more. Secondly this is your opinion that i was being degrading, judgemental and condescending. It is not part of maturity -thats a stupid thing to say. You should post when u r at ur most passionate, if not what u r really thinking, what u want to say and how u want to say it.
I agree with he embeded quote; "You should post when u r at ur most passionate" if we did this then the devil can suggest things to us and we will run with it! Passion can be dangerious if we don't think out what we are saying or feeling. Envy can jump into us through passion, we shouldnt just lash out with out cooling off and saying mature god felt things
I disagree, If someone has a God related tattoo, that could be a chance to minister to people. People would ask what your tattoos mean and then you can educate them on Your beliefs. I have a tattoo and that's exactly what i do. But I'm just stating my opinion.