Boston Bombing Suspects: The Tsarnaev Brothers

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zone

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We may not hear from him Zone. He might be booking his flights to Israel to help his Palestinian brothers get to church.
oh...the Palestinians are a made-up people, drett.
they don't exist.

just a bunch of blood-thirsty 11 year old boys with rocks foaming at the mouth to hurt poor little ARMED TO THE TEETH ISRAEL.

and we're not supposed to think about Christian Arabs (Palestinians).

no, if there are any christians there, they are enjoying all these wonderful democratic liberties and freedoms - in a fascist racist theocratic state which declares itself JEWISH.

that's fine...but that's not enough...now the Behemoth USA obeys the master of war and funds DEATH SQUADS in Syria because Dispensationalist heresy is following a script that was fulfilled 2500 years ago.

AND ALL THE XTIAN ZIONISTS SAY BRING IT ON! NUKE EM.

do you know, drett...i actually posted pictures here of kids in Gaza, looking into Israel through barbed wire and was told the picture was FAKE?

Iran...the giant existentialist threat...OH PUKE.

the sickening part is, they're going to keep prodding Iran until everybody gets a wakeup call.


and if the American people get tired of the game, HEY - set off some more bombs and blame it on Muslims.
at the same time, start stringing up the barbed wire in The Homeland, since she's NEXT.

okay....end rant.

whatever. they can have it.
 
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I think I am going to start to make you a bit more accountable for what you do. I looked through the web site you attached. It is filled with hadith that is not regarded as sound. Ishaq, was a great man but was not thorough in substantiating the stories he received.
My friend no amount of machinations will make Muhammadan Islam anything by the EXACT OPPOSITE of the WHOLE SUBJECT of the Gospel. We only need a single verse and don't need to waste time dithering on with any other subject. You choose to follow Muhammad alone, exactly contrary to the whole subject of the Gospel.

Surah 4:157 That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Nothing else matters, my friend. As my prior post confirms Islam is antichrist according to the scriptures, regardless of what the Islamic wishful pretend.

Regarding Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Yasa'r, he was the first man to collect and record the oral traditions in regard to Muhammad. Ishaq died in 767AD, Well over a hundred years after Muhammad and most of a hundred years before Islam's most highly regarded writer al-Bukhari (810-870AD) penned his version of the hadith, not finishing until 214 years after Muhammad's death. Obviously, all the intervening years could have accomplished is to degrade the early record and infuse even more fiction.

Indeed Ishaq's record remains lost except for having been "preserved" by ibn Hisham who died in 833. Unfortunately Hisham admitted Ishaq: 691 "I am omitting things which Ishaq recorded in this book. I have omitted things which are disgraceful to discuss and matters which would distress certain people."


It is Hisham that those who followed, like Bukhari, copied and embellished over the following centuries. Do you really believe that Bukhari could get it more right than Ishak when he wasn't even born until 810 AD? Come on my friend, all Bukhari could have done a couple hundred years after Muhammad was to rewrite it in a manner to make it even more palatable while further whitewashing and eliminating the things that were too "disgraceful to discuss".

You avoided this question before. Why not try answering it this time?
Do you believe a just God would make confessing that Jesus is the Son of God, or even praying in Jesus' name (as all Christians have for nearly 2,000 years), constitute the single most egregious and ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN?
As compared to child rape or cold-blooded mass murder, for example, which may be forgiven.
UNFORGIVABLE SIN OF SHIRK

1John 4:15
Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
 

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I don't know about you but if a force of 20,000 is attacking your city and you only number 3000. You need all the incentive you can get. Linking hands and singing Kumbaya is not going to cut it.
true christianity does NOT teach political zionism drett.
EVER. any Zionism.

God`s Holy Mountain Zion is heaven - Jesus Himself.


i hope you know the difference between 'christian' zionism (a laughable misnomer - just a hijacked hybrid) and the kingdom Jesus Christ taught.

His Kingdom is not of this world, and there is no distinction between the races or peoples.

send me a pm if you ever decide to know what true christianity is.
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We may not hear from him Zone. He might be booking his flights to Israel to help his Palestinian brothers get to church.
Can't you see how Satan continues to keep distracting you away from the truth of the Gospel Drett - continues to keep you away from the whole subject of the Gospel, with foolishness?

Matthew 20:17 And Jesus going up to Jerusalem took the twelve disciples apart in the way, and said unto them, 18 Behold, we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn him to death, 19 And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify [him]: and the third day he shall rise again.

THE LAMB SLAIN

http://christianchat.com/christian-...suspects-tsarnaev-brothers-5.html#post1016072
 
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It's not uncommon for dishonest people to try to switch the subject to being about hatred of persons, in order to falsely accuse and avoid the actual subject, while advancing false propaganda. But as my posts uniformly illustrate, the discussion isn't about persons, by rather the cult of the false prophet Muhammad itself.
http://christianchat.com/christian-...suspects-tsarnaev-brothers-4.html#post1014496

Since Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the Gospel - that Christ wasn't crucified - and for a Muslim to proclaim that Jesus is the Son of God or even to pray in Jesus' name constitutes the ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN - as compared to cold-blooded mass murder which may be forgiven - from a Christian perspective it is obviously about hating Islam.
JIHAD
Which is the very thing that you and yours advance, by suggesting an equivalence between the Israeli's right to defend their democracy, and Islamic aggression and ambition of subjugating Israeli Jews, Christians and non-Muslim Arabs to Islam. As you and your ilk have already accomplished for those poor Christians living in Gaza.
ZIONISM IN CHRISTIANITY



Simply more effort at obscuring the truth by yet once again suggesting an equivalence, which is exactly what my post pointed out, as yet again confirmed by you. And so the false propaganda mill continues on.


UMM Pete,

Would you mind answering this then (Which you either didn't want to or you didn't see it)


UMM don't you find it a bit ironic that the US would never lift a finger to rescue our true Christian brothers and sisters in places like China,the old Soviet Union,India,Africa and other places where they were being persecuted,tortured and killed yet as a country we never lifted a finger to save them,yet we will bend over backwards for Israel. Why is this? Why haven't we tried to do this for our true brothers and sisters in Christ,but yet we leave them to the wolves? Why Pete? Aren't they just as important,or are they just fodder?

And this

Do you honestly believe that somehow Islam is any different then the Vikings,the Samurai's or any other religion that were warriors who wanted domination? This type of stuff has been going on for thousands of years. How many people have tried to conquer the world or were horrible dictators to their there own people? You have Kahn,Hitler,Stalin,Lenin,Mao,Napoleon,etc etc. The Lord told us these things would go on TILL THE TIME HE COMES BACK. Change the names the names,the players and it's all part of the world as it has become. There is NOTHING new under the sun. Only two things will ever change it preaching the gospel of Christ to bring about changed hearts and lives,or His return. Hating them is NOT going to change it. All that will do is lead to death and destruction on both sides,and many innocent lives will be lost. How many more soldiers will have to die? How many more little children have to die on both sides?

And Pete can you answer this one also

Are you saying that you want the total and complete extermination of the Muslims,because if they keep going on they will in the end try to wipe out the Christians and Israel? Is this what you are saying because that is what I am hearing from you,and if I am wrong please clarify.
 
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All of which is nothing more than obfuscation from your answering to your hostility toward the Israelis right to defend themselves from imperialistic conquest, and thus your shouldering responsibility for the subjugation of Gaza Christians to Muhammad's followers. Nor anything about your inability to be able to discern a difference between self-defense and imperialistic Islamic conquest.

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Are you saying that you want the total and complete extermination of the Muslims,because if they keep going on they will in the end try to wipe out the Christians and Israel? Is this what you are saying because that is what I am hearing from you,and if I am wrong please clarify.
Do you see how the enemy has dragged you down deeper? This is exactly why I pointed out that you share the heart of Zone and Drett. Assigning beliefs to others contrary to the beliefs they actually hold. Your suggestion is of course the exact opposite of everything I have posted on this thread, in this forum, on websites and youtube channels that proclaim what I actually "want".
THE LAMB SLAIN
But since I understand the times we live in I understand why you do:

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Casual false accusation and/or mischaracterization is what confirms your club with Zone and Drett. Everything I have posted indicates what I would "want" would be the "complete extermination" of ISLAM. Any Christian who doesn't want the same is not a Christian, since the false prophet Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel while blaspheming the Son of God. The difference is that rather than just wanting it, I labor toward it.

All of my efforts are directed toward helping Muhammad's followers find their way to the foot of the cross. While Christian posers work overtime to guide Muhammad's followers away from the cross, by further advancing Islamic hatred of Jews by piling on, and encouraging poor sorely deluded Muslims like Drett to continue doing the same.
You can pretend all you want, but hatred of Jews is why you are unable to even discern a difference between the Israeli's right to defend their citizens - or the continuation of 1400 years of Islamic imperialistic conquest.
While hatred of ISLAM is a Christian expression of love for the false prophet Muhammad's poor sorely deluded followers.
 
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Closed mind not wasting any more time on you.
You never even began to spend time with me my friend, regardless of the hours of effort I poured into the effort, from the get go.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/60682-return-jews-israel-11.html#post966935
It is the spirit of antichrist that drives you away from the Gospel Drett.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
 
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All of which is nothing more than obfuscation from your answering to your hostility toward the Israelis right to defend themselves from imperialistic conquest, and thus your shouldering responsibility for the subjugation of Gaza Christians to Muhammad's followers. Nor anything about your inability to be able to discern a difference between self-defense and imperialistic Islamic conquest.

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Do you see how the enemy has dragged you down deeper? This is exactly why I pointed out that you share the heart of Zone and Drett. Assigning beliefs to others contrary to the beliefs they actually hold. Your suggestion is of course the exact opposite of everything I have posted on this thread, in this forum, on websites and youtube channels that proclaim what I actually "want".
THE LAMB SLAIN
But since I understand the times we live in I understand why you do:

2 Timothy 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Casual false accusation and/or mischaracterization is what confirms your club with Zone and Drett. Everything I have posted indicates what I would "want" would be the "complete extermination" of ISLAM. Any Christian who doesn't want the same is not a Christian, since the false prophet Muhammad proclaimed the exact opposite of the whole subject of the Gospel while blaspheming the Son of God. The difference is that rather than just wanting it, I labor toward it.

All of my efforts are directed toward helping Muhammad's followers find their way to the foot of the cross. While Christian posers work overtime to guide Muhammad's followers away from the cross, by further advancing Islamic hatred of Jews by piling on, and encouraging poor sorely deluded Muslims like Drett to continue doing the same.
You can pretend all you want, but hatred of Jews is why you are unable to even discern a difference between the Israeli's right to defend their citizens - or the continuation of 1400 years of Islamic imperialistic conquest.
While hatred of ISLAM is a Christian expression of love for the false prophet Muhammad's poor sorely deluded followers.

Do you even read what I said? I said I want both sides to stop it. Can you understand that at all or do you just blow it off?
And you of all people have the gall to use 2 Timothy 3 against me when you have falsely accused me time and time again.

I asked a question and if I was wrong I did ask for clarification which you have NEVER done with anything I have written,all you have done since the beginning is accuse me,lied about me and bore false witness against me,time and time again. You have outright called me an anti semite time and time again. When are you going to stop the lies,slander and accusations you are doing and then have the gall to accuse others of the very same thing?
 
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Do you even read what I said? I said I want both sides to stop it. Can you understand that at all or do you just blow it off?
Simply repeating an ignorant wish won't make it magically come true. There is only one side that desires to fight. The same side that is fighting and slaughtering all around the world, continuing its 1400 year goal of conquest and subjugation of the world to Islam. THAT is what your hatred of Jews continues to drive you to refuse to see.

If the Muslims put down their weapons there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons there would be no more Israel.

And you of all people have the gall to use 2 Timothy 3 against me when you have falsely accused me time and time again.

I asked a question and if I was wrong I did ask for clarification .......
Sorry but a review my posts demonstrates that you had no reason to lodge that not so thinly veiled accusation while pretending it is a way to ask a question. It has been answered over and over. That isn't the way a Christian asks a sincere question. Don't pretend that was your intent now. I had already patiently explained it when confronted with another thinly veiled accusation that I hate Muslims.

...... which you have NEVER done with anything I have written,all you have done ..........
I've done it over an over, and you just keep vindicating my understanding of your view, over and over.

......... since the beginning is accuse me,lied about me and bore false witness against me,time and time again. You have outright called me an anti semite time and time again.
You want the Jews to quit fighting to defend the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination afforded the Israeli Jews, Christians, non-Muslim Arabs AND Muslims by the democracy of the Israeli Jewish state.
Unfortunately, unless and until the Muslims come to Christ they won't quit fighting because it's their job to conquer and subjugate non-Muslims, whether in Israel, Nigeria, Malaysia, the Sudan, India or anywhere else we find the murder, mayhem and misery inflicted on humanity by the followers of the false prophet Muhammad.
It doesn't require rocket science to do the math, on just exactly what it is, you are asking of the Jews. The same thing that anti-Zionists have visited upon the Christians in Gaza - subjugation to the false prophet Muhammad's followers.

When are you going to stop the lies,slander and accusations you are doing and then have the gall to accuse others of the very same thing?
 
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You want the Jews to quit fighting to defend the freedom, liberty and right to self-determination afforded the Israeli Jews, Christians, non-Muslim Arabs AND Muslims by the democracy of the Israeli Jewish state.
Unfortunately, unless and until the Muslims come to Christ they won't quit fighting because it's their job to conquer and subjugate non-Muslims, whether in Israel, Nigeria, Malaysia, the Sudan, India or anywhere else we find the murder, mayhem and misery inflicted on humanity by the followers of the false prophet Muhammad.
It doesn't require rocket science to do the math, on just exactly what it is, you are asking of the Jews. The same thing that anti-Zionists have visited upon the Christians in Gaza - subjugation to the false prophet Muhammad's followers.
Hello,that is not I said. Go back and read what I said again.
 

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You never even began to spend time with me my friend, regardless of the hours of effort I poured into the effort, from the get go.
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/60682-return-jews-israel-11.html#post966935
It is the spirit of antichrist that drives you away from the Gospel Drett.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].
You want to engage in a debate with me ? Look at the points I make and tell me why you consider them to be wrong. That is how a debate works. You just ignore what I state and keep copying and pasting rubbish from sites that use hadith that any person with an ounce of knowledge in Islam will tell you are not to be used. Do I need to explain the science of hadith to one as knowledgeable as you ?
 
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Waldo does not like to let facts cloud his judgement lol
I suppose I shouldn't let him get to me like he does,but I really hate it when people pull out the racism and anti semitisim card when they refuse to actually listen to what the other person is really saying. The sad part is they never see that all it does is hurt the points they are trying to make and it makes them look very radical and hateful.
 
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All of which is nothing more than obfuscation from your answering to your hostility toward the Israelis right to defend themselves from imperialistic conquest, and thus your shouldering responsibility for the subjugation of Gaza Christians to Muhammad's followers. Nor anything about your inability to be able to discern a difference between self-defense and imperialistic Islamic conquest
UMM Please point out where I said that Israel has no right to defend themselves? That is not what I said. What I have said the beginning is I have a problem with innocents being bombed. (And I do have a problem with Muslims that bomb innocents also) Both are just as wrong. Do you think that God will not hold one accountable for killing innocent children? (And that goes for both sides) God never takes pleasure in the death of a child. Do you know for a fact if they were Muslim? Were they Christian? Were they Arab Jews? Do you think that it helps the Israelis cause to be seen bombing innocents? After a point people will not believe it was just an accident of war,when it happens over and over. Please explain how it is NOT Israeli conquest of a land that was not theirs at the time the UN "gave them the land"? (I will grant you that God did give them the land but it was also based on conditions that they would be able to live there,otherwise they would be removed) And there were conditions before they would be brought back to the land.
Deuteronomy chapters 28-30
 
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UMM Please point out where I said that Israel has no right to defend themselves? That is not what I said.
It is what you accomplished by indicating an equivalence between Israel's defense and Islamic aggression.

What I have said the beginning is I have a problem with innocents being bombed. (And I do have a problem with Muslims that bomb innocents also) Both are just as wrong. Do you think that God will not hold one accountable for killing innocent children? (And that goes for both sides) God never takes pleasure in the death of a child. Do you know for a fact if they were Muslim? Were they Christian? Were they Arab Jews? Do you think that it helps the Israelis cause to be seen bombing innocents?
As long as the Muslim aggressors hide among civilians while launching their attacks it will remain an unfortunate consequence. Increasing casualties among innocents for propaganda purposes, has consistently been a tactic of Israel's enemies.
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/63425-brigitte-gabriel.html

After a point people will not believe it was just an accident of war,when it happens over and over. Please explain how it is NOT Israeli conquest of a land that was not theirs at the time the UN "gave them the land"? (I will grant you that God did give them the land but it was also based on conditions that they would be able to live there,otherwise they would be removed) And there were conditions before they would be brought back to the land.
Deuteronomy chapters 28-30
You are letting your doctrine, and what you have trained yourself to believe regarding what the terms are for the Israeli's return, interfere with the objective reality that they HAVE returned, and why that might be.
CHRISTIAN ZIONISM

Just as you ignore objective reality throughout the rest of your responses. I continue to be amazed that you can't see the difficulty in your critical thinking process. This isn't just about Israel, but about a continuation of 1400 years of imperialistic Islamic conquest of the world (a rekindling of effective Islamic conquest now that the Islamic beast has been healed by western wealth transfer through oil purchase, financing the Islamic Second Jihad in the image of the Islamic First Jihad).
Islam already conquered nearly the whole known world once already, during the Islamic first jihad.
BEHOLD THE BEAST

Israel is just one front in Islamic conquest, as is so clearly evidenced by the 2 million killed or displaced by the hand of Muhammad's followers in the Sudan alone, and the slaughter of Christians in Nigeria, Malaysia, Indonesia and most everywhere we find the murder, misery and mayhem inflicted upon humanity by the followers of the false prophet Muhammad.
nigeriacalabash.com

Through an ethnographic hermeneutic - aside from those in the tiny little strip of land of Israel that are protected by the democracy of the Israeli Jewish state - nearly everyone in John's "whole world" already carries the name of the false prophet Muhammad's Islamic beast. And the conquest continues:
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/61666-mark-beast-4.html#post994876

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So when you sit there wringing your hands wishing both parties to stop, it suggests they equally share responsibility for what's going on. This is exactly the same as if in the middle of WW2 you were sitting there wringing your hands saying "Gee I wish those allied forces and Hitler would just stop fighting! Children are being killed by both sides!"
And by so doing you would be assigning an equal share of blame and guilt to both sides. Hitler's aggression, and those trying to stop it. There is absolutely no difference in what you are doing now, regarding Israel's defense of their democracy, from imperialistic Islamic aggression.

So what do you suppose the world would look like today, if an equally idle wish had come true, and the allied forces had simply stopped fighting Hitler?
The following photo is the Islamic Mufti of Jerusalem up to his eyeballs with the Nazis, including an entire Islamic panzer division in Hitler's army, engaged toward their shared goal of genocide of Jews. Because it's their job.
JIHAD

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

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zone

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You never even began to spend time with me my friend, regardless of the hours of effort I poured into the effort, from the get go.
oh ya....he'd definitely want to sit and listen to you.
spend time with you...i mean all that effort.
i feel ya.
 

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You want to engage in a debate with me ? Look at the points I make and tell me why you consider them to be wrong. That is how a debate works. You just ignore what I state and keep copying and pasting rubbish from sites that use hadith that any person with an ounce of knowledge in Islam will tell you are not to be used. Do I need to explain the science of hadith to one as knowledgeable as you ?
drett...not only can he he not distinguish between the parallel (and conveniently slathering psycho-radical 'hadith' that MI5; Mossad; CIA and NATO dusted off and juiced up), he can't distinguish between true Christianity and the juiced up counterfeit that plagues us all - called "christian" zionism.

talmudic zionism wouldn't be more than another misguided attempt to establish another certain-peoples-only regime...were it not for the the totally manufactured heresies of christian zionism < that bunch gives it's power to the other. they lobby and agitate - just as you've seen. throw the Name of Jesus in occasionally....you know how it works.

inevitably you find they're getting their daily soup from MEMRI and other psyop media sources.

the destructions of Islam are self-evident. both the warring and the loss of souls, as Jesus is the Only Way to the Father.

having said that - what use are we as witnesses if we only work for carnal aims, and those not even for CHRISTIANS! no, we want to cheer on Pamela Geller and the like.

just know those ideas (taking the sides/promoting one totalitarian group over another) don't come from Jesus Christ the Son God, The Almighty.
 
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UMM Please point out where I said that Israel has no right to defend themselves? That is not what I said. What I have said the beginning is I have a problem with innocents being bombed. (And I do have a problem with Muslims that bomb innocents also) Both are just as wrong. Do you think that God will not hold one accountable for killing innocent children? (And that goes for both sides) God never takes pleasure in the death of a child. Do you know for a fact if they were Muslim? Were they Christian? Were they Arab Jews? Do you think that it helps the Israelis cause to be seen bombing innocents? After a point people will not believe it was just an accident of war,when it happens over and over. Please explain how it is NOT Israeli conquest of a land that was not theirs at the time the UN "gave them the land"? (I will grant you that God did give them the land but it was also based on conditions that they would be able to live there,otherwise they would be removed) And there were conditions before they would be brought back to the land.
Deuteronomy chapters 28-30
I would have to agree. If Israel was put back there, then God had a hand in it. Like you say, they were taken away by His choice before and put back this time for the same reason. He's always wanted them to come back to Him. They were His first love and you never forget your first love.
 

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are you going to make the effort to determine the veracity of the just prior articles?
why do you x-out the context?

or do you think these are all fables?

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(1) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar : The jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque." (Book #23, Hadith #413)

(2) Narrated Anas: A jew crushed the head of a girl between two stones. The girl was asked who had crushed her head, and some names were mentioned before her, and when the name of the jew was mentioned, she nodded agreeing. The jew was captured and when he confessed, the Prophet ordered that his head be crushed between two stones. (Book #41, Hadith #596)

(3) Narrated Anas: A jew crushed the head of a girl between two stones. She was asked, "Who has done so to you, so-and-so? So-and-so?" Till the name of the jew was mentioned, whereupon she nodded (in agreement). So the jew was brought and was questioned till he confessed. The Prophet then ordered that his head be crushed with stones. (Book #51, Hadith #9)

Sahih Bukhari B52 #177 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "the Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

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do all false, globally activated religions contain hateful and inflammatory rhetoric which drive the crazies who go all the way with it?

where do all false religions come from?

if people from one group see the hateful murderous rhetoric in the pages of the 'holy books' of another religion - and that rhetoric is directed at them personally....what do you think is going to happen?

are they all just harmful fables?

or are deluded extremists from all camps radicalized?

can you provide any evidence that the Israeli (and other) religious extremists are not following and totally believing the Sages' rulings and mandates to the letter?

(hint - no you can't...because we see it in practice today).

the difference is, one group does it in the open, the other through suppression of crimes and depravity, and acts through subversion - namely a certain cult which claims the name of Jesus, but is really just pushing for the Clash of Civilizations.

there's no question which is more dangerous (and heretical).
the xtian zionist cult is the most dangerous on earth.

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handy one-sided-propagandist's spamming device # 12:

post inflammatory hadith next to unrelated photograph (rinse and repeat as meme for psychological effect)

hey! what a concept!

maybe you need to balance your preposterous notion and agitation that righteous (unsaved but somehow righteous and holy) Israel is slogging away to be holy and just can't stay focused because of all the heathen round about.

INSERT DISGUSTING PHOTO OF YOUR CHOICE

Sanhedrin 55b. .A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old)

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

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Panic in Jerusalem

Parents in a tight-knit neighborhood believe a pedophile ring is terrorizing children
. What if it doesn’t exist?

By Menachem Kaiser|November 29, 2012 7:00 AM

The kid came home from Talmud Torah [school] at two o’clock and immediately started crying about someone biting him. I asked him, “Where?” and he said, “On my arm,” but there’s no mark. I told him, “Let’s find out who it was and we’ll catch him.” I gave him my hand, we ran outside, and then he told me that he met Binyamin, our neighbor, and he asked for toffee, or that Binyamin asked him if he wants toffee, I’m not sure, and then they went up to Binyamin’s apartment. [Speaking in voice of her son:] Binyamin has a “round thing” on his bed, and whoever stands there for a little bit gets a toffee, and whoever stands there longer gets ice cream, and I didn’t make it [i.e., didn’t manage to stand for a long time on the round thing] so I left there and then someone bit me. So, I asked him [and here she returns to her own voice], “Who bit you? Binyamin?” He answered in the negative. He said: “No, someone else, scary, without a kippah.”

Right now, Binyamin Satz, Benzion Primashelanu, and Zalman Cohen are in jail, charged with sodomy and violence against Israeli children. Six other men have been arrested, questioned on suspicions of the same, and released. A 70-year-old woman named Sarah Vorst was violently beaten by five men in February, her apartment ransacked, and her computer and telephone stolen—according to many because her attackers believed she was a mastermind behind the pedophiles’ plot.

There was no hint of pedophilia in the community before October 2010. But the Haredi community in Nahlaot now believes that the highly organized ring has been operating secretly for years—possibly generations—and is governed by an elaborate hierarchy.

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/117839/panic-in-jerusalem?all=1 < click


so what do you do when you're caught for doing what your satanic, gnostic- dualist, antinomian religion mandates you do in order to usher in "messiah" (he'll supposedly come when everything is either totally righteous or totally evil - some have decided to choose the latter force)?

you blame the Minim, because that's allowed and encouraged as well:

"Many are convinced that there are Christian missionary motivations at play here and that false converts have infiltrated their community. A number of locals told me they believe that the videos and media produced by the pedophile ring are being sold for tens of thousands of dollars or more."

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April 21, 2013:

Don't Worry, Jews May Be Bad But Goyyim Are Worse, Ohr Somayach Rabbi Says


Shmarya Rosenberg

Rabbi Yitzchak Breitowitz says no matter how bad the behavior of haredi Jews may seem, we're better than the non-Jews, and the haredi community is the place to go to live a fulfilled, moral life.

He also says that you should ask a rabbi before reporting suspected child sexual abuse to police or your city's child protection services and invokes the No True Scotsman Fallacy – any Orthodox Jew who commits heinous crimes like child sexual abuse is not really an Orthodox Jew, Breitowitz claims, insisting that God and Judaism are not at fault for what its most visible adherents may do wrong.

On top of that, he says students at Ohr Somayach in Jerusalem don't really have many questions related to this because Jerusalem's Jews are holier than the Jews elsewhere, and he implies the problems of child sexual abuse, theft and corruption don't really exist there – which is false.

On the bright side, he does say that there is no mesirah with regard to reporting suspected child sexual abuse.

FailedMessiah.com: Pedophilia & Related Crimes < click




so Pete, would you consider stopping your lop-sided lobbying?
because it's tedious mopping up after you.
what was it you were saying about Muhammed and little girls?
 
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