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PneumaPsucheSoma

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jinx said:
I believe GOD is omnipresent. So HE wouldn't be limited to just the heavens.
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Put that in context with what I said. I'm just trying to standardize the overall understanding that everyone has. It's usually the same overall.

God is omnipresent in heaven and in the natural universe, correct? Define what you means by "not limited to just the heavens".
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
My purpose is to illustrate the shared omission of misunderstanding of ALL the historical God-models.

Is the above your understanding? God's existence is in heaven. Heaven is eternity. Eternity is infinite past and future. And from heaven/eternity, God created the natural universe.

Is there anything you'd add or correct?
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I would go into further detail. The jews and the bible refer to heaven as where the birds fly. But you are close to the mark.
 
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it sounded like you was saying that GOD resides in heaven/universe beyond earth. I on the other hand believe that GOD's SPIRIT is everywhere, even here on earth.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Earlmayknowornot said:
I see you saying that there is only one. I say that the bible say's there are three acting as one unit. Also known as the Godhead. What are you saying?
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Maybe you should reread my posts. I've clearly stated that the Father is not the Son is not the Father (are not the Holy Spirit). Now you've back off of the term "person/s". And you don't know what Godhead means. It's theotes or theiotes in Greek. It doesn't mean "Trinity of F/S/HS" at all. That's just your presumed understanding.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Abiding said:
Id give that a go...but only after i reviewed word meanings because you have a vocabulary
that would overwhelm me and cause me to get confused...but you could mail me words in advance
and give me time to get up to speed....id bet you could do that:eek:
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I would do that AND I'd review them all live. I could still do it in under 3 hours, and I'd include the entirety of Cosmogony.

I do it regularly. You'd get it all. And it reconciles EVERYTHING.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Earlmayknowornot said:
I would go into further detail. The jews and the bible refer to heaven as where the birds fly. But you are close to the mark.
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Okay, let me further elaborate.

The first heaven is where the fowl fly. The second heaven is the celestial sky, which is the expanse of the natural universe (observable astronomy). The third heaven is where God has his inherent existence.

The third heaven is where Paul was caught up to. The third heaven in eternity. There is inifite eternal past and future.

Does that cover it? I'm trying to get an agreeable understanding.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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jinx said:
it sounded like you was saying that GOD resides in heaven/universe beyond earth. I on the other hand believe that GOD's SPIRIT is everywhere, even here on earth.
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Let me try again. God has His existence in the heavenly realm of eternity where there is infinite eternal past and future. After creation, God is omnipresent in all of creation.
 
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Earlmayknowornot

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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
Okay, let me further elaborate.

The first heaven is where the fowl fly. The second heaven is the celestial sky, which is the expanse of the natural universe (observable astronomy). The third heaven is where God has his inherent existence.

The third heaven is where Paul was caught up to. The third heaven in eternity. There is inifite eternal past and future.

Does that cover it? I'm trying to get an agreeable understanding.
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Good. and the greek is clear F/S/HS. from what I read. It is a duck and probably a mallard. Mallard has three colors for those who don't know.
 
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ok sleeping pill kicking in. night all. it's been fun.:)
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Earlmayknowornot said:
Good. and the greek is clear F/S/HS. from what I read.
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Okay. The Greek is NOT clear that F/S/HS are three hypostases ("persons"), though. Quite the contrary.

from what I read. It is a duck and probably a mallard. Mallard has three colors for those who don't know.
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But nobody's concerned with your attempted inference of a concept. I'm just trying to get a standardized understanding about God, heaven/eternity, and creation according to the above.

Is the above clear enough or do we need more detail?
 
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Earlmayknowornot

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Good nite. Love you all including Pneumonia and that especially. Love in Christ.
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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We can resume this tomorrow. All I'm trying to establish is a consensus of God, heaven/eternity, and creation. It will be the simple key to me demonstrating what EVERYONE has omitted and then compensated for in their theology.

G'night.
 
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We are the breath of God once we become His, we are spirit, too. We are NO LONGER flesh, we live in a flesh body but we are NO LONGER flesh. We are spirit beings, with His Spirit in us. does that put things in perspective, our spirit returns to Him after we die, but we have died to our flesh, so, it is a capital 'S' for spirit. The reality of that truth in Scripture of Gal. 2:20 really does tell it all. We are no longer who is alive once we accept Christ, we are dead to our flesh, we are living by His leading us and what a journey we will take :)
 
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GreenNnice

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NO ONE has seen God, but Jesus who is...... ;)

"No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma said:
We can resume this tomorrow. All I'm trying to establish is a consensus of God, heaven/eternity, and creation. It will be the simple key to me demonstrating what EVERYONE has omitted and then compensated for in their theology.

G'night.
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Well aren't you bright? You have all the answers don't you? What fools the people who don't follow your lead must be? Wow, you might even know more about Jesus then Jesus himself.

You'll demonstrate what EVERYONE has omitted and then compensate for in their theology.

Boy oh boy, do you have a job or do you do this full time?
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Wyclif said:
Well aren't you bright?
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It's oida knowledge.

You have all the answers don't you?
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No. But I have oida knowledge.

What fools the people who don't follow your lead must be?
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Not necessarily.

Wow, you might even know more about Jesus then Jesus himself.
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Nope. But I have the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him (Eph. 1:17).

You'll demonstrate what EVERYONE has omitted and then compensate for in their theology.
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Yep.

Boy oh boy, do you have a job or do you do this full time?
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Didn't I tell you? I'm an underpaid janitor at a church. :D
 
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"Talk no more so very proudly; let no arrogance come from your mouth, for the Lord is the God of knowledge; and by Him actions are weighed." 1 Samuel 2:3 (NKJV)
 
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PneumaPsucheSoma

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Wyclif said:
"Talk no more so very proudly; let no arrogance come from your mouth, for the Lord is the God of knowledge; and by Him actions are weighed." 1 Samuel 2:3 (NKJV)
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It's not arrogance. And it IS the oida knowledge of God by the Spirit.
 
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