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If an embryo WAS fertilized and embedded and someone took the morning after pill, it would not kill the embryo.
 
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Actually sadly to a lot of people that baby has more value than anything else even people who are already living
I'm not seeing how this matters at all within the context of what I posted..??
 
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Are we talking about teenagers in America, Canada, or Europe because when I was a teenager I had a job and so did a lot of other teenagers. Even for teenagers who didnt have job they could get a hold of the money.
we are basically talking about middle schoolers and early high schoolers...most of them -don't- have jobs yet...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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This is a ridiculous thing to say.... A completely different topic. Plan B has absolutely nothing to do with some pedophile. ....that's a whole different topic of conversation.
it is the pedophiles who will be giving young teenage girls the money to buy the morning after pill to cover up their crimes...
 
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Kisses1990

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lol do you really think pedophiles are going to hand some girl money and tell them to go in the store and buy it? I'm sorry but that just sounds crazy to me. Girls who are aware of this drug and are concerned they might be preggo WILL find the money. Nothing to do with criminals or anything. A girls own decision to buy it.
 

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So wait, are you guys opposed to people handing out contraceptives?
I oppose we live in a society that due to lack of morality, handing out contraceptives is needed.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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lol do you really think pedophiles are going to hand some girl money and tell them to go in the store and buy it? I'm sorry but that just sounds crazy to me. Girls who are aware of this drug and are concerned they might be preggo WILL find the money. Nothing to do with criminals or anything. A girls own decision to buy it.
yes that is exactly what they will do...just like the pedophiles who drive their victims across state lines to abortion clinics in states where there are no parental contact laws...

it sounds like you are actually shocked at the suggestion that sexual predators will behave like sociopaths...
 
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Batman007

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I oppose we live in a society that due to lack of morality, handing out contraceptives is needed.
Correction, they're not following YOU'RE definition of morality.
 
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Batman007

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we are basically talking about middle schoolers and early high schoolers...most of them -don't- have jobs yet...
The working age in my state is 15, although a lot of businesses hire younger and will pay under the table. I was working starting 7th grade, maybe even sixth, doing babysitting. I made good money, too. I think you underestimate teenagers.

Also, I don't see how buying teenagers the morning after pill has anything to do with sexual predators. If they're concerned about that then they're going to wear a condom. Otherwise, the morning after pill doesn't destroy any evidence they left. I really think you're pulling stuff out of thin air here because you're argument makes no sense.
 

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I'm not seeing how this matters at all within the context of what I posted..??
OK you originally said... I'd say being pregnant, and giving birth would complicate the 15 year olds life in far greater ways than taking a stupid pill. She wouldn't be prepared for the responsibilities and side effects of having a child of her own.... You seem to have gotten this backwards. Im Saying a lot of the posters here dont actually care about how it would complicate the 15 year olds life and are more concerned with the fetus than anything else.
 
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There shouldn't be millions of starving kids in the world either but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

'Oh they don't work, so they don't deserve food'.

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Are you suggesting then, that if they don't work they still deserve food?
 
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Are you suggesting then, that if they don't work they still deserve food?
Are you suggesting young children should have to work? And if they don't they deserve to starve? That's very Jesus-like of you.
 
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Depending what pill they took. Family Research Council

Even then....only God knows.
From the NHS website. And bear in mind in most cases Levonelle is prescribed here. oneElla is more American and it isn't really recommended, considering girls often lie about when they've had sex, so that they can get the pill.

[h=4]Levonelle[/h]There is no evidence that Levonelle harms a developing baby. It can be used even if there has been an earlier episode of unprotected sex in the menstrual cycle in addition to the current episode. Levonelle can be taken while breastfeeding. Although small amounts of the hormones contained in the pill may pass into your breast milk, it is not thought to be harmful to your baby.
[h=4]ellaOne[/h]There is limited information on the safety of ellaOne in pregnancy. The FSRH does not support the use of ellaOne if a woman might already be pregnant. The safety of ellaOne during breastfeeding is not yet known, so the manufacturer recommends that you do not breastfeed for up to 36 hours after taking this pill.
 
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The working age in my state is 15, although a lot of businesses hire younger and will pay under the table. I was working starting 7th grade, maybe even sixth, doing babysitting. I made good money, too. I think you underestimate teenagers.

Also, I don't see how buying teenagers the morning after pill has anything to do with sexual predators. If they're concerned about that then they're going to wear a condom. Otherwise, the morning after pill doesn't destroy any evidence they left. I really think you're pulling stuff out of thin air here because you're argument makes no sense.
That's fair to say. But generally, at 16, in the UK girls are only just finishing high school. And most don't have jobs.
 
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MidniteWelder

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Are you suggesting young children should have to work? And if they don't they deserve to starve? That's very Jesus-like of you.

Just trying to get an understanding of your thought process since it appears you are relating food which is an actual necessity to sex which is a want not a need.

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If THEY (whom are so beneath you), want to have sex, then put contraception out there, and let them have sex.

I say give out all the condoms you like.



Even God gives choice. He gives instructions, yet hasn't he made us physically able to disobey them? Yet you aren't willing to give people choice.

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And yes if God gave us choices and then allowed us physically able to dis-obey them why are you trying to suggest it is right to provide easy outs to escape the consequences for disobedience to our maker.
That's very much like a parent who keeps bailing their kid out of jail over and over instead of letting them endure what they brought upon themselves.
This ideal only serves to raise spoiled children who are not taught to respect and obey the authorities above them which leads to future "issues and problems" with a disrespect for not only their maker but the laws of the land that are put in force by God himself.
.....remember that verse "spare the rod spoil the child.
That means yes we are to endure our discipline when called for
This is also what Jesus himself was speaking of when someone strikes you to turn them the other cheek.
If one has done something deserving of punishment they are to shut up and take it and accept it without fighting back with an attitude that
THEY THEMSELVES are the mini God allowed to escape all they wish, including their maker.
Again with the attitude of I am and there is no one besides me. me me me. I want I want gimme gimme
Its my body I can do what I want with it, just do what makes ya happy etc.
Then they go on to follow a false God making excuses just as an adulturess
"She eats and wipes her mouth and says, Ive done nothing wrong"
Why would a person think they've done nothing wrong unless they have been misled into thinking such


 
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Just trying to get an understanding of your thought process since it appears you are relating food which is an actual necessity to sex which is a want not a need.



And yes if God gave us choices and then allowed us physically able to dis-obey them why are you trying to suggest it is right to provide easy outs to escape the consequences for disobedience to our maker.
That's very much like a parent who keeps bailing their kid out of jail over and over instead of letting them endure what they brought upon themselves.
This ideal only serves to raise spoiled children who are not taught to respect and obey the authorities above them which leads to future "issues and problems" with a disrespect for not only their maker but the laws of the land that are put in force by God himself.
.....remember that verse "spare the rod spoil the child.
That means yes we are to endure our discipline when called for
This is also what Jesus himself was speaking of when someone strikes you to turn them the other cheek.
If one has done something deserving of punishment they are to shut up and take it and accept it without fighting back with an attitude that
THEY THEMSELVES are the mini God allowed to escape all they wish, including their maker.
Again with the attitude of I am and there is no one besides me. me me me. I want I want gimme gimme
Its my body I can do what I want with it, just do what makes ya happy etc.
Then they go on to follow a false God making excuses just as an adulturess
"She eats and wipes her mouth and says, Ive done nothing wrong"
Why would a person think they've done nothing wrong unless they have been misled into thinking such


Why do you assume people who have sex before marriage are spoilt? It's like putting everyone who has sex in the bracket of deliberately mischeivous, maliceful, rebellious people when really, most of the time, it's ignorance.

I'm far from spoilt, but I WAS ignorant of the value of sex before I stopped having it with partners.

And if I'm honest; if I hadn't been treated like dirt and messed around, and didn't feel so inadequate because of a serious burn that left me pretty badly scarred; I'd probably still be having it.

But my experiences led me to where I am and now I see the benefits of marriage before sex. I wasn't spoilt and deliberately rebellious, I was young and didn't know much better.

Being uneducated and inexperiences isn't the same as being a spoilt brat.
 
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And some people happen to be able to pull a partner easily and have it willy nilly. That was me until a while back, but not now. And it's only as someone who is no longer 'that guy that women are always attracted to', do I realize the value of having a partner that cares about you enough to look past your flaws; and why cheap sex makes for a cheap image. It can all disappear.