Why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuality?

[MidniteWelder]

I didnt have to read much, I got about half way through and could already see it was taking Gods word and twisting it to someones corrupted agenda

"Abusers of themselves with Mankind " as in 1 Tim
Sexual sin is the one sin that is the sin against oneself
1 Cor 8:18
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.....
We are instructed for our own good to flee from it ...not run to it,
not argue for it, not say its ok you cant help it, flee from it means precisely that

Just like when we resist the devil he actually FLEES from a follower of God who lives with action by Gods word.
as opposed to living for ones flesh.
.....furthermore....sinning against onself with who?
with (man-----Kind) (the male gender)
Therefore they abuse themself simply by any action which acts out the effiminacy of homosexuality
(IE:being Butches Nancy for instance)
people make the choice to sin or not sin,
One must let Christ be their master, we our not our own master to serve ourself,
Since as we are told, We cannot serve two masters either they will love the one and hate the other
Ever wonder why you hear so many people say..I hate myself....thats why because they keep serving themself which is the master they end up hating even though they may still love God yet deep inside they know better
ones soul can be demanded of them this very hour

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

You're showing your ignorance again by quoting Matthew 5:22 in response to the Proverb I quoted. Jesus himself called certain religious teachers “blind fools” (Mt 23:17).

Jesus wasn't sinning when he did that nor putting himself in danger of hellfire and neither was I. The Hebrew term in Matthew 5:22 is different than the word used in the Proverb I quoted and the one in Matthew 23:17 in their original language.

That Hebrew word means to a Jew “rebel (against God)” or “apostate”; and was the word which Moses used in exasperation to the disaffected Israelites in the wilderness of Zin: “Listen, you rebels; must we bring you water out of this rock?” (Num 20:10). For these rash words, uttered under intense provocation, Moses was excluded from the Promised Land.

The reason for this is because calling an Israelite in ancient Israel an apostate rebel against the Lord would produce a murderous quarrel imparting the chief responsibility for the ensuing bloodshed upon the one that started it by making such a serious and false allegation in that place and time.

But of course you never studied ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek in seminary so ignorantly responded as you did.

Matthew 5:22
...but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

 

[IronChariots]

You're showing your ignorance again by quoting Matthew 5:22 in response to the Proverb I quoted. Jesus himself called certain religious teachers “blind fools” (Mt 23:17).

Jesus wasn't sinning when he did that nor putting himself in danger of hellfire and neither was I. The Hebrew term in Matthew 5:22 is different than the word used in the Proverb I quoted and the one in Matthew 23:17 in their original language.

That Hebrew word means to a Jew “rebel (against God)” or “apostate”; and was the word which Moses used in exasperation to the disaffected Israelites in the wilderness of Zin: “Listen, you rebels; must we bring you water out of this rock?” (Num 20:10). For these rash words, uttered under intense provocation, Moses was excluded from the Promised Land.

The reason for this is because calling an Israelite in ancient Israel an apostate rebel against the Lord would produce a murderous quarrel imparting the chief responsibility for the ensuing bloodshed upon the one that started it by making such a serious and false allegation in that place and time.

But of course you never studied ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek in seminary so ignorantly responded as you did.

Sorry, but when I see someone using the Bible to call someone a fool I respond in kind.
It's no different than a "I know you are but what am I?" insult.

 

[MidniteWelder]

And this doesn't answer why the other OT laws don't count anymore.
Refer to the scripture in post #51

Pray for discernment and ask God to provide you the correct answers to what you seek
If it is truth that you truly seek, he will set you free from what binds you

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Sorry, but when I see someone using the Bible to call someone a fool I respond in kind.
It's no different than a "I know you are but what am I?" insult.

^ Now that the Bible teaches is a sin.

Making an accurate observation is not, however. You find this principle carried into our legal system. Libel isn't libel if it's true. Slander isn't slander if it's true.

But thanks for showing your ignorance as it provides teachable moments. Are you learning is the question? I haven't seen any indication yet that you are. Hence, we're back to the Proverb I quoted. A perfect circle.

 

[MidniteWelder]

Making an accurate observation is not, however. You find this principle carried into our legal system. Libel isn't libel if it's true. Slander isn't slander if it's true.

Thats True

 

[IronChariots]

^ Now that the Bible teaches is a sin.

Making an accurate observation is not, however. You find this principle carried into our legal system. Libel isn't libel if it's true. Slander isn't slander if it's true.

But thanks for showing your ignorance as it provides teachable moments. Are you learning is the question? I haven't seen any indication yet that you are. Hence, we're back to the Proverb I quoted. A perfect circle.

I don't consider the Bible a source of truth or morality so it doesn't matter what you quote from it.

 

[MidniteWelder]

I don't consider the Bible a source of truth or morality so it doesn't matter what you quote from it.

Are you trying to judge someone based upon principles which you dont even believe in by using scripture yourself?

 

[IronChariots]

This thread's about homosexuality like the countless other ones on this site.

 

[MidniteWelder]

This thread's about homosexuality like the countless other ones on this site.

Thats True

 

[JimJimmers]

I counted 15 on that page alone and there are 5 pages.

There are two main reasons that your pictorial evidence would be rejected by any rational person. If you figure out what they are, it may help you become a better debater.

 

[djness]

I don't consider the Bible a source of truth or morality so it doesn't matter what you quote from it.

Your profile says you are christian...soo...

 

[PennEd]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.
I believe that God created man, and when sin came in, the devil perverted many things within humanity. Satan took the concept of Christ marrying His church, and the natural order that God had intended for man to function and twisted it into something else. He does this with all good things that God had created.

I want to make two statements, though.
a) Homosexuality is just as much of a sin as anything else.
b) Just because you are not attracted to the same sex, does not mean you know what the temptation feels like.

I'm not here to try and start a debate about whether it's wrong or right - because in the eyes of God it's wrong. Bang, there you have it. Nothing else needs to be said on that.
What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with condemning homosexuals?

To say that you are without sin, is to make Him out to be a liar. You are unrighteous, and ungodly, but you are made righteous by the blood of Christ. Sin is sin, God does not make a hierarchy of do's and don'ts. We have ALL fallen short of the glory of our Lord Jesus.
Can you remember the last time that you thought a bad thought about someone? The last time you had a lustful thought? What about the last time you cursed someone? Are you having a hard time forgiving someone?
GUESS WHAT. You are just as bad as a homosexual, I am just as bad as a homosexual.
I struggle, you struggle. I've probably sinned in 50 different ways today and I can't even recall it. I am so unrighteous and I deserve hell, you deserve hell, the pope deserves hell. I don't care who you are, you deserve the pit, no matter what you DO and no matter what you DON'T DO, you deserve no mercy.

I want to know why Christians are so damn obsessed with homosexuals. They will overlook their own greed, their own judgement and take the salvation that they did not earn and use it to tell a gay person that they're going to hell. Do you not realize that you deserve to go to hell?
You didn't wake up one day, accept Jesus, and then not deserve separation from our father. You still deserve separation. That's what grace is, the fact that you don't deserve to be with God, but He LOVED YOU enough to DIE FOR YOU so that you could be with Him. Yet so many people are taking this and act like they are righteous.

There is so much wrong with the world today, and not only is everyone taking their eyes off of Jesus to focus on the affairs of how well everyone else's moral performance is, of all things they choose one sin out of the possible thousands of others out there that you and I are probably committing every day and then pointing gays out to be the unrighteous.

There are adulterers, men who are married and have wives who absolutely love them and they go out and have sexual relations with other women on purpose. Men who shoot up schools.
Do you not see that even though you are JUST AS BAD as THOSE PEOPLE in the eyes of God, you choose to oppress one group of struggling people who cannot help but be under what Satan has done under sin. Yes, some people are born like that, and just because you can't possibly understand what it's like to struggle with that sin does not mean it's easy to deal with. They are committing suicide every day because of Christians who would rather make a sermon or forum thread about gay people condemning them, when they don't willingly choose to be the way that they are, as opposed to someone who chooses to shoot up a bunch of 7 year olds in a school.

I have seen about 20 discussions on homosexuality during my week on this forum, and not one about the people shooting up schools or men who cheat on others. There's no "MURDERERS" threads, or "ADULTERERS" threads, or "THIEVES" threads but countless ones about gay people.

Now I'm not telling you to go and take your eyes off of gay people and start judging murderers, because it's still the same concept. You and I are just as sinful as the guy who shot up the cinema - the difference between us and him is that we have been saved by Jesus Christ for our sins.

What I want to know is why are Christians so obsessed with homosexuals? It's a sin like any other sin, we sin every day. We're no better. We have Homosexual Christians, homosexual non-Christians.
You have Christians who think bad thoughts, and non-Christians who think bad thoughts. Sin is sin.
If you believe that Jesus died for you, you are made righteous by faith the same way that Abraham was.

So please tell me why Christians cannot seem to help themselves but continuously question and attack homosexuality in particular when we are just as bad as them in other areas of our lives?
Why can't we just accept that our beautiful, merciful Lord and Savior died for us, and focus on our relationship with Him and His almighty presence as opposed to spending all our time condemning others and monitoring their lives and actions?

[HR][/HR]

Romans 3:10
as it is written:
“None is righteous, no, not one;"​

[HR][/HR]

There are several reasons why so many Christians are distressed, or you would say, obsessed with homosexuality. There are few other blatant sins where society, some Christians and unbelievers alike, try to justify and claim isn't sin at all. The altering and attempted destruction of the God instituted family unit. The ever worsening bullying and persecution of those who refuse to accept that this behavior isn't sinful. NEVER before in history has homosexuals been recognized BY THE GOVERNMENT with the right to marry. Nature, history, and Scripture are in agreement that this is a perversion. WE FULLY UNDERSTAND that ALL sin must be confessed and repented of, but you can't repent of something you don't believe is a sin. The relentless ermergence of this sin is a bellweather of the overall societal decay of our moral foundation. The REAL question you should pose is why Christians AREN'T distressed (obsessed) with this sin.

 

[IronChariots]

Your profile says you are christian...soo...

Uh, no it doesn't...soo...

 

[MidniteWelder]

well, thank you for your time, with all due respect I must refrain from continuing on this chariot ride
Prayerfully Gods word has taken root to grow and multiply for his good purpose and drive away anything which drives a wedge between being closer to him

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

2 Corinthians 11:13-15: "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds."

2 Timothy 3:5: "Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."

Titus 1:16: "They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work."

Matthew 7:15: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Matthew 7:21-23: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."

1 John 4:1: "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."

2 Timothy 3:1-17: "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.:

Etc... etc... etc...

Looks like the threatened attack on CC that "would come from it's own members" has been uncovered.



Let the banning begin.

Your profile says you are christian...soo...

 

[Yahwhat]

His profile says "not Christian"

 

[David_1]

I see more threads on this site about homosexuals and debates about whether they're going to heaven or hell than discussions about how good, kind and merciful our Lord and Savior is.

It's a mix of this:

60% of the people starting the thread are closeted or recovering homosexuals that are self hating.
40% are bigoted, hateful souls, who are the wolves in sheep's clothing.

I know plenty of Christians here, who disagree with homosexuality, but aren't making daily threads about them.

I think Jesus died for more than Republican Right Wing political talking points.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

That is because he changed it before he was banned from Christian to Not Christian after his unmasking.

I've just reviewed your posts and you look to be another one. You can always change your direction and avoid the same rapidly approaching end. But, as always, the choice is up to you.

His profile says "not Christian"

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

It's a mix of 90% concerned individuals who are genuine Christians and 10% trolls.

It's a mix of this:

60% of the people starting the thread are closeted or recovering homosexuals that are self hating.
40% are bigoted, hateful souls, who are the wolves in sheep's clothing.

I know plenty of Christians here, who disagree with homosexuality, but aren't making daily threads about them.

I think Jesus died for more than Republican Right Wing political talking points.