Yes, because true faith obeys.
But it is faith that saves (Eph 2:8), not its obedience.
Obedience simply manifests true faith.
The question is "obeys what"?
Yes, because true faith obeys.
But it is faith that saves (Eph 2:8), not its obedience.
Obedience simply manifests true faith.
The one who plants and the other who waters are what they were quarreling about (1:11-12, 3:3-5),So I can do anything as vile as I can think of and it all peechy? NO
Romans 3:25, "Whom Yahweh set forth as a sacrifice of atonement by His own blood, through the faith, to declare His
righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of Yahweh."
Yahdah (Jude) 1:4, "For there are certain men who have secretly crept in, who were before of old ordained for this condemnation, unholy men, who turn the undeserved pardon of our One Supreme Savior Yahweh into licentiousness, and deny Yahshua our Messiah."
Hebrews 10:29, "How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished, who has trampled the Son of Yahweh underfoot, and has counted the blood of the covenant (with which He was sanctified) an unholy thing, and who has insulted the Spirit of mercy?"
What? right before
that he said v8" Now he who plants and he who waters are one,
Yes, Paul is referring to God's servants of vv. 5, 8.and in verse 15 its about your saved
Yes, Paul warns them in v. 17 that God will destroy them if they destroy the church with the factions and quarrels he pointed out in 3:3-5, as well as 1:11-12.but in 17 the context is 1:11-12?
and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor."
Nevertheless, Paul is presenting awards for God's servants depending on the quality of their work (vv.8-15),I have to disagree on that
Yes, their works are the manifestation of their faith, which saves.Romans 2:6-11, "When He will reward each one according to his works: To the ones on one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh."
The question is "obeys what"?
Yes, their works are the manifestation of their faith, which saves.
Their lack of works are the manifestation of their lack of faith, and therefore they are condemned without it.
Yes, their works are the manifestation of their faith, which saves.
Their lack of works are the manifestation of their lack of faith, and therefore they are condemned without it.
Which version of the bibe is this???i don't see people stading on the right and left hand of God during judgment in my bible.
First of all, scripture informs the reader that there are two Resurrection events, right?
The First Resurrection is for the Righteous - and they are NOT judged.
The Second Resurrection is for the un-righteous - and they WILL be judged.
'Works' follow the Righteous into Heaven...they do not precede the Righteous into Heaven...
Originally Posted by HizikyahWhy do so many people think they will not be judged by thier works? The "New Testament" tells us we will over and over:
Yahchanan (John) 5:28-30, “Do not be astonished at this-for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice, and will come forth. Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live; and those who have practiced wickedness will be resurrected in order to be damned."
Please give me your thoughts on this subject.
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Those who have practiced righteousness will be resurrected in order to live
practiced righteousness
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What does that mean? to be on who practiced righteousness?
All that is presented in the NT for obedience.
Yaaqob (James) 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."
And those more than 10 "NT" Scriptures that said we will be judged by our works, lets ignore those and isolate 1 verse.
No man can enter the Kingdom of Yahweh by works alone, however a man can lose his place in the kingdom by having unrighteous works or works not according to the mouth of Yahweh.
Yaaqob (James) 2:22, "Do you see that the faith worked together with his works, and by works the faith makes perfect?"
Read 3 more verses:
Romans 3:28, " "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law."
Romans 3:31, "Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."
But you choose the path you want
Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
Iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to
(Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.
Revelation 22:12-14, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Nobody can enter the Kingdom of Yahweh only with the Law, however one can lose their spot without it..
See: every verse I posted
this is just another way to say we are under law. not grace.
why do some people want to continue to think they can be righteous enough to earn salvation? You will never be righteous enough to earn it. Only one man did this, and they crucified him on the cross.
What does that mean? to be on who practiced righteousness?
Why do some continue to disagree with our Lord and Savior?
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Such as this?
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
or this?
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
And they have been fulfilled, and when the whole NT is considered, we findSuch as this?All that is presented in the NT for obedience.john832 said:The question is "obeys what"?
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass,
one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Two things:Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the
least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called
great in the kingdom of heaven.
So how many entered eternal life by keeping the law, in which "every word" had to be keptor this?
Luk 16:17 And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
What about this?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but
if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.