Jerusalem is not Mystery Babylon the Great PERIOD!!!

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gocardinals25

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#81
If you were wanting to create this mark of the beast first you would have to send the world into a economic crisis, do you really think that the destruction of any other nation would make that possible?
 

JaumeJ

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#82
The world is on the brink of an international monetary systems collapse rendering currencies valueless. Think about it. The wealthy are reeling in all the cash of the world, the working class people are earning less and less rendering them less and less viable in continuing in a consumer oriented world, which in turn will strand the greedy on their mountains of currency looking at each other and wondering why their commodities are no longer viable in increasing their wealth. When they realize what they have done, they may as well use their cash collections for firing up the barbeque.
 

john832

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#83
The world is on the brink of an international monetary systems collapse rendering currencies valueless. Think about it. The wealthy are reeling in all the cash of the world, the working class people are earning less and less rendering them less and less viable in continuing in a consumer oriented world, which in turn will strand the greedy on their mountains of currency looking at each other and wondering why their commodities are no longer viable in increasing their wealth. When they realize what they have done, they may as well use their cash collections for firing up the barbeque.
Eze 7:19 They shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.

Now why would that happen?

Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Amo 4:6 And I also have given you cleanness of teeth in all your cities, and want of bread in all your places: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.
Amo 4:7 And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained not withered.
Amo 4:8 So two or three cities wandered unto one city, to drink water; but they were not satisfied: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.
Amo 4:9 I have smitten you with blasting and mildew: when your gardens and your vineyards and your fig trees and your olive trees increased, the palmerworm devoured them: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.
Amo 4:10 I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword, and have taken away your horses; and I have made the stink of your camps to come up unto your nostrils: yet have ye not returned unto me, saith the LORD.

When there is no food to buy, money isn't worth too much, you can't eat gold.
 
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Fiery

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#84
To go cardinals 25, here's your long look at scriptures, and after this feel free to show me america in the context of the text tour looking at.
Rev.17( and there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters.(rev. 1 vs. 15 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto (him,) ( to shew, unto ( his) servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified by his angel unto his servant John: gal. 1:12) jer 51: 12-13(set up the standard upon the walls of babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the Lord hath both devised and done that which he spake against the inhabitants of Baby-lon. 13. Ok thou that ( dwellest upon many waters, abundant in treasures, thine end is come the measure of thy covetousness.( mt. 23:15)
 
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gocardinals25

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#85
Yes that is true that America is in a financial crisis that has been going on for some time now but there is just too much scripture that supports our destruction by our enemies to the north, the blood of saints and all the slain on the earth our military funding in the middle east, our luxurious living that has spread across the world,adultery,pornography,even the modern day American would be considered rich, I would consider this nation to be a modern day babylon as would alot of other nations but if we keep our eyes focused on the Lord,Jesus in our hearts, and keep his commandments then we have absolutely nothing to worry about either way
 
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gocardinals25

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#87
I could go on all day trying to convince you but I think that the word of God speaks for itself in the bible, I hope that America is not mystery babylon but I do truly believe that God showed me that it was.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#89
We have had the opportunity to study the bible without persecution, we know the things that are to come, "Christianity is the most popular religion in the United States, with around 73% of polled Americans identifying themselves as Christian in 2012", pulling the wool over our eyes would be difficult if you were wanting to put a one world religious system into full effect
not sure what you mean here? Could you explain further?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#90
If you were wanting to create this mark of the beast first you would have to send the world into a economic crisis, do you really think that the destruction of any other nation would make that possible?
it goes deeper than this. All one would have to do is control the worlds economy to do this.. The world is in economic crisis as it is.. If the europeans would combine (Like I think they will) not only financially but militarily but everything, america would become a small player in the world.. A completely united europe has more people, more finances, more military firepower than the US or China..

we just do not see it today because they are still fragmented.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#91
Yes that is true that America is in a financial crisis that has been going on for some time now but there is just too much scripture that supports our destruction by our enemies to the north, the blood of saints and all the slain on the earth our military funding in the middle east, our luxurious living that has spread across the world,adultery,pornography,even the modern day American would be considered rich, I would consider this nation to be a modern day babylon as would alot of other nations but if we keep our eyes focused on the Lord,Jesus in our hearts, and keep his commandments then we have absolutely nothing to worry about either way
yes, we do all those things.

But babylon spoken of in scripture has many characteristics. not just these. and those characteristics do not fit the us.. it is these things which caused me to change my view on america being babylon
 
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gocardinals25

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#92
I mean if they tried to convince us into accepting a one world religion we would turn away from it, if a new world order tried to convince us to accept their one world economy, the mark of the beast , we are all watching out for that, if your plan is to deceive the world you wouldn't want Christians in your way
 
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gocardinals25

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#93
What characteristics would you say do not fit America?
 
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Fiery

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#94
Mt. 23: 15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, yes make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.) REV.17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drubk with the wine of her fornication. Jer. 51, isa.23:17(And it's shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the Lord will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall committed fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.) Dan. 11:36, jer.25:12,29. Dan11:36 And the kung shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper tull the indignation be accomplishaccomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Kings2:22, acts 4:27-28, dan9, rev.16. Rev3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit ypon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy having seven heads and tent
Horns. ( rev13, ) zec5:6 And I said, What it? And he said, This any ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This their resenblance through all the earth, (mic6:9-11, rev6:6,7, ) And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: abdul this a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. Rev17:18dan1:mt7:21-23, ( rev4: And the woman was arrayed ibm purple and scarlet coloured, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cyprus in her hand fyll of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: (jer50:12 , isa23:15) And upon her forehead a name written, MYSTERY, BABY-LON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
 
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Fiery

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#95
Show me in the bible what text in context proves that this is america. Don't brake the ryles of grammer or you will subject God's words to the understanding of your own mind , with out support of the scriptures.
 
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gocardinals25

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#96
REV.17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. The American way of life has influenced all nations.

Dan11:36 And the kung shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Obama may fit that description supporting abortion,gay marriage, and other things that are an abomination to God.

And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet coloured, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cyprus in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: (jer50:12 , isa23:15) And upon her forehead a name written, MYSTERY, BABY-LON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. This may be referring the Statue of Liberty

You may be able to find someone else to interpret the others but those are a few


 
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gocardinals25

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#97
We will all see things differently that is why I do not have the only copy of a bible, you read for yourself and decide, it is a revelation so that in due time it can be revealed, I do have to say that I think I have tried to explain to the best of my knowledge, God bless
 
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Fiery

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#98
To go cardinals, if you take the time and listen to yourself you will see just in was
what frame of mind your in.first off, how we seen things has nothings to do with How God has revealed his truth.the lord said let scripture interpret scriptures, so where does that leave us, line upon line, I'm not prophet, so why would I give a prophecy outside of the canon. The lord in duet18: 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the things follow not, nor come to pass, that the things which the Lord hath not spoken, the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. Gal5:8, 1ki19, jer28. John haggy , end game, illuminati vids will get you way off track concerning the word of God. Never relying one him but men, fatal mistake. Alarmist or christian? Diligent in the study of God's words or a conspiracy theorist.
 
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gocardinals25

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#99
I am not trying to scare you I am simply telling you the way I interpreted scripture when I read it and what I believe God was guiding me to, but like I said you are free to read it for yourself and interpret whichever way you like, God bless
 
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eternally-gratefull

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What characteristics would you say do not fit America?
Many

they do not control the worlds economics
they do not control worlds governments or have influence over them
The world hates us, It does not love us
The world will rejoice. Not be saddened when we are destroyed.
The world does not base its religion on ours. If anything, american form of christianity is mocked

I can go on and on and on