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Bibles are still printed on paper... 
-> History of paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Paper was invented by the ancient Chinese in the 2nd century BC during the Han Dynasty and spread slowly to the west via the Silk Road."
-> History of paper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"Paper was invented by the ancient Chinese in the 2nd century BC during the Han Dynasty and spread slowly to the west via the Silk Road."
you dont, you are actually making a good point....there are many pagan symbols that surround us. Even a wreath hanging on your front door has pagan roots. The jesus fish is pagan as well...
People speak so loudly against pagan things yet have no idea they use items everyday that are traced back to paganism.
Maybe thats why Paul made it clear that objects are amoral.
People speak so loudly against pagan things yet have no idea they use items everyday that are traced back to paganism.
Maybe thats why Paul made it clear that objects are amoral.
J
People go around adding extra burdens we aren't meant to have. Person A is convicted by tattoos. Person A then looks in scripture to try and see if tattoos are sin and reads their conviction into the text. Person A tells Person B that they should be convicted about it too. Person B respects what person A says about following Christ and then becomes convicted by tattoos as well. Now person B has become guilty due to person A's insistence that their personal unbiblical conviction should now be laid on all other believers.
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First of all Cobus I'm not going to allow you to turn this into a big debate. You should not have to redefine what you say to this extent. Say it correctly the first time.
I don't really know what the celestial body will be like, I can only speculate. Second, I personally wouldn't get a tattoo so I don't see a reason to "color my body in ink." However people aren't without their reasons. Can you provide some New Testament scripture that talks about this perhaps?
No I'm pretty sure you did. There is no need to pretend. It's here for all to see.
Come on man really? Getting a happy face tattooed on your cheek is a far cry from the mark of the beast. This discussion isn't about the mark of the beast nor does it have any baring on it. This discussion pertains to a personal choice to get some form of artwork placed on the body for aesthetic purposes. Obviously if someone starts a post talking about Obama, (or whoever the pop Christian world has deemed to be the Antichrist today), imposing some kind of tattoo or micro chip to govern buying and selling then fine, mark of the beast discussion time. There was no need to inject "mark of the beast" into this discussion when you know as well as I do the persons question had NOTHING to do with the mark of the beast. You were not addressing some 6 year old who can barley read let alone who would be browsing this forum for theological answers.
I don't know Coubus where in the bible does it say that? You were the one who implied that this was so in your Original post. I miss the pot on wha??? What are you talking about. (don't answer that.)
It happens to the best of us. And yes that gun will be held to your head and my head for as long as our words remain in these forums. New people will be in here constantly and see everything you have written as I am doing now. So lets try to keep that in mind before posting our opinions without scripture to back it up. Let's also be selective in what we talk about. Avoiding trivial issues such as tattooing as being some kind of mark of the beast salvation issue.
Indeed. Some are tasteful though. So what does the N.T. say about this type of thing? How can we get to the bottom of it? It would be EASY to do the whole O.T. rule throwing thing and just paste the scripture that says don't do it. But that is not a real good way to go about it for obvious reasons I'm sure you already know.
Cobus if you are afraid your Christian brothers and sisters are going to get "I love you Satan" tattoos you can rest assured. They aren't Christians LOL. What have you to do with them?
Nnnnope! You make unbiblical claims and don't provide scripture.
What you are in effect doing by not showing scripture is causing people to see it YOUR way rather than seeing it for what it says. By doing so, you now cause those who wont read the scriptures for themselves to believe that bleeding is a sin. Even "bleeding from tattoos" as you say. This is completely non biblical. This methodology also prevents you from learning anything new, as it portrays that you already know well enough to speak on a matter without using scripture. You repeat your own doctrine enough times it becomes etched in your mind.
You have deviated from the original topic/question of "is it okay for a Christian to get a tattoo?" into "is bleeding a sin?"
Think about that. Now we have to have endless trivial debates on whether or not it's okay for Christians to get needles. And you do realize there are Christians out there who let their children get sick and die because of bad bible doctrine right? Through bad theology, they get it into their heads that antibiotics are a sin. What you are doing is NO different. Watch it man! Because its THAT easy to throw people off in the WRONG direction.
I don't really know what the celestial body will be like, I can only speculate. Second, I personally wouldn't get a tattoo so I don't see a reason to "color my body in ink." However people aren't without their reasons. Can you provide some New Testament scripture that talks about this perhaps?
No I'm pretty sure you did. There is no need to pretend. It's here for all to see.
Come on man really? Getting a happy face tattooed on your cheek is a far cry from the mark of the beast. This discussion isn't about the mark of the beast nor does it have any baring on it. This discussion pertains to a personal choice to get some form of artwork placed on the body for aesthetic purposes. Obviously if someone starts a post talking about Obama, (or whoever the pop Christian world has deemed to be the Antichrist today), imposing some kind of tattoo or micro chip to govern buying and selling then fine, mark of the beast discussion time. There was no need to inject "mark of the beast" into this discussion when you know as well as I do the persons question had NOTHING to do with the mark of the beast. You were not addressing some 6 year old who can barley read let alone who would be browsing this forum for theological answers.
I don't know Coubus where in the bible does it say that? You were the one who implied that this was so in your Original post. I miss the pot on wha??? What are you talking about. (don't answer that.)
It happens to the best of us. And yes that gun will be held to your head and my head for as long as our words remain in these forums. New people will be in here constantly and see everything you have written as I am doing now. So lets try to keep that in mind before posting our opinions without scripture to back it up. Let's also be selective in what we talk about. Avoiding trivial issues such as tattooing as being some kind of mark of the beast salvation issue.
Indeed. Some are tasteful though. So what does the N.T. say about this type of thing? How can we get to the bottom of it? It would be EASY to do the whole O.T. rule throwing thing and just paste the scripture that says don't do it. But that is not a real good way to go about it for obvious reasons I'm sure you already know.
Cobus if you are afraid your Christian brothers and sisters are going to get "I love you Satan" tattoos you can rest assured. They aren't Christians LOL. What have you to do with them?
Nnnnope! You make unbiblical claims and don't provide scripture.
What you are in effect doing by not showing scripture is causing people to see it YOUR way rather than seeing it for what it says. By doing so, you now cause those who wont read the scriptures for themselves to believe that bleeding is a sin. Even "bleeding from tattoos" as you say. This is completely non biblical. This methodology also prevents you from learning anything new, as it portrays that you already know well enough to speak on a matter without using scripture. You repeat your own doctrine enough times it becomes etched in your mind.
You have deviated from the original topic/question of "is it okay for a Christian to get a tattoo?" into "is bleeding a sin?"
Think about that. Now we have to have endless trivial debates on whether or not it's okay for Christians to get needles. And you do realize there are Christians out there who let their children get sick and die because of bad bible doctrine right? Through bad theology, they get it into their heads that antibiotics are a sin. What you are doing is NO different. Watch it man! Because its THAT easy to throw people off in the WRONG direction.
JDecree I see you thorw me an IGNORE.... Is it by your own will or were you advized by other's? And all you have to do is say... Cobus, go away... I will respect every request, Like MY LORD DID... When people asked Him to leave, HE LEFT.
There are many people here that disagrees with me, but when the disagreement gets nasty, God COMMANDS me to FOLLOW Him.
Now here is ONE more request I ask thee, JDecree... show me what Jesus would do if you treated HIM like you treat me? If you show me from scripture, I will DO AS HE DID!
Please do not shy from this one... Tell me straight what would Jesus do if HE WAS ME! Then I know what to do...Use the Bible... I will even give you a hint.... it has to do about a cliff...and head first...
There are many people here that disagrees with me, but when the disagreement gets nasty, God COMMANDS me to FOLLOW Him.
Now here is ONE more request I ask thee, JDecree... show me what Jesus would do if you treated HIM like you treat me? If you show me from scripture, I will DO AS HE DID!
Please do not shy from this one... Tell me straight what would Jesus do if HE WAS ME! Then I know what to do...Use the Bible... I will even give you a hint.... it has to do about a cliff...and head first...