JEWISH MISSIONS AND MESSIANIC JUDAISM..

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ChosenbyHim

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We are commanded to STUDY the Book (2 Timothy 2:15).


We are not to be lazy and sloppy with our approach to studying the Bible.


Studying and comparing Scripture with Scripture takes time. And if you want to understand Bible Prophecy correctly, well then you need to study and rightly divide the word of truth.
 

zone

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We are commanded to STUDY the Book (2 Timothy 2:15).


We are not to be lazy and sloppy with our approach to studying the Bible.


Studying and comparing Scripture with Scripture takes time. And if you want to understand Bible Prophecy correctly, well then you need to study and rightly divide the word of truth.
Chosen, you hold to an extreme version of the TOTALLY unbiblical system of dispensationalism.

if you haven't guessed it by now: the BELL you RING is always:

RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH.

as long as ppl keeping twisting that; and practicing this horrendous chopping up of God's word and calling it DIVIDING, i'm against you.

here's your remedy - take it:

One of the most important books to be published exposing the erroneous teaching of Dispensational Theology is Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth by Dr. John H. Gerstner.

http://www.sounddoctrine.net/stanford/Wrongly Dividing.pdf

i really wonder about this crowd...and those who claim to be not of this crowd yet agree.
the foundation is the same....it shouldn't be hard to know by know what the error is.

separating the people of God; and mixing unbelievers with believers.
teaching Two peoples; Two Covenants; Two Plans....some other god, some other gospel, some other word, some other spirit.
 
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ChosenbyHim

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Chosen, you hold to an extreme version of the TOTALLY unbiblical system of dispensationalism.

No, I simply believe what the Bible teaches. There are clear dispensations within the Holy Bible.


if you haven't guessed it by now: the BELL you RING is always:

RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH.

as long as ppl keeping twisting that; and practicing this horrendous chopping up of God's word and calling it DIVIDING, i'm against you.

Zone, it is called Right Division. Right Division of the Holy Scriptures. You need to study the issue more, because I can see that you just don't understand Dispensational Truth.


here's your remedy - take it:

One of the most important books to be published exposing the erroneous teaching of Dispensational Theology is Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth by Dr. John H. Gerstner.

http://www.sounddoctrine.net/stanford/Wrongly Dividing.pdf


And here is a book that I strongly recommend for you to read:



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i really wonder about this crowd...and those who claim to be not of this crowd yet agree.
the foundation is the same....it shouldn't be hard to know by know what the error is.

separating the people of God; and mixing unbelievers with believers.
teaching Two peoples; Two Covenants; Two Plans....some other god, some other gospel, some other word, some other spirit.


Zone, what do the Scriptures teach?? That is the issue here. Again, there are clear distinctions in the word of God between the Nation of Israel and the church. There are clear dispensations in the Bible.


Every Christian is Dispensational to a certain degree whether they want to admit it or not. If you are not sacrificing bulls and goats for your sins, well then guess what? You are Dispensational to that degree. If you are not bulding an ark in your backyard, again, you are Dispensational in that you are aware that the command to build an ark is not given to you.
 

zone

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Zone, what do the Scriptures teach?? That is the issue here. Again, there are clear distinctions in the word of God between the Nation of Israel and the church.
i know.
the unbelievers in Israel were CUT OFF.

the believers remained - CHURCH - gentiles grafted in - God's people.

one GOSPEL.

that's it.
anything else is some other religion.
debunked a million times.
 
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ChosenbyHim

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i know.
the unbelievers in Israel were CUT OFF.

the believers remained - CHURCH - gentiles grafted in - God's people.

one GOSPEL.

that's it.
anything else is some other religion.
debunked a million times.

The GOSPEL today will not be in effect in the time of Jacob's trouble.


The Gospel today is salvation by grace through faith only. No works.


The Gospel in the time of Jacob's trouble is faith and works.


The Gospel preached in Matthew, Mark, and Luke by Jesus and His apostles is not the Gospel we preach today. The Gospel they preached was the Gospel of the Kingdom.


The Gospel we preach today is the Gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:1-6).
 

zone

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The GOSPEL today will not be in effect in the time of Jacob's trouble.
that's long over.

The Gospel today is salvation by grace through faith only. No works.
like this, right?

Hyperdispensationalism
Hyperdispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Gospel in the time of Jacob's trouble is faith and works.
i know it's a total waste of time asking you to back that up.

Romans 3:20a
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law

The Gospel preached in Matthew, Mark, and Luke by Jesus and His apostles is not the Gospel we preach today. The Gospel they preached was the Gospel of the Kingdom.
Hyperdispensationalism
Hyperdispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ultradispensationalism is a minority Christian doctrine regarding the relationship between God, the Christian church and human beings. As the name implies, it is an extreme form of dispensationalism.
The clearest scholarly references to Ultradispensationalism (sometimes known as "Extreme Ultradispensationalism" or "Bullingerism") are made by Charles C. Ryrie [9] and Charles F. Baker.[10] Ultradispensationalism is a niche doctrine of Christian belief that believes that the Christian Church began with Paul's statement made to the Jewish leaders at Rome near the end of the Book of Acts with Acts 28:28 stating: "Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it" being the foundational Scripture of belief of the doctrine of Ultradispensationalism.[11]

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Mid-Acts dispensationalism holds that most of the early Christian Church abandoned basic truths starting near the end of the Apostle Paul’s ministry.[12] The truths are (in order of loss):[13]

The Distinctive Message and Ministry of the Apostle Paul
The Pre-Tribulational Rapture of the Church, the Body of Christ
The Difference between Israel and the Church, the Body of Christ
Justification by Faith Alone, in Christ Alone.


The truths, advocates say, were gradually recovered in reverse order starting during the Protestant Reformation;[14] for example, Martin Luther is credited with recovery of "justification by faith" and John Nelson Darby with "Church Truth."

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Mid-Acts dispensationalists are not monolithic nor homogenous. There are two main positions with which there exists minor variations. The two main positions are Acts 9 and Acts 13. The difference is minor being only technical. They all see the dispensation of Grace and the church, the body of Christ as beginning with the apostle Paul. Among dispensationalists, the differences separating the Mid-Acts position from the Acts 28 position are just as great as those separating the Acts 2 position from the more consistent Mid-Acts dispensational view.

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Mid-Acts dispensationalists take all of Paul's epistles (Romans through Philemon) to be directly written to the church (thus often accepting the practice of the Lord's Supper as for this dispensation of Grace) while the Acts 28 position takes only Paul's prison epistles (those written while in prison) to be directly applicable to the church today (denying the Lord's Supper for today).

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There is only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5) made without hands where the believer is baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13) which is held in contradistinction to Christ baptizing believing Israel in Acts 2 with the Holy Spirit. This pouring out baptism of the Holy Spirit is in fulfillment of the Old Testament promise of the new covenant to Israel (Acts 2:16-21, Joel 2:28-32). Thus it has nothing to do with the newly revealed Mystery to and through the apostle Paul who is not sent out until much later with the new ministry as the apostle of the Gentiles to establish a new church which is composed of both Jews and Gentiles, and not just Israelites (which includes proselytes to Judaism) as in Acts 2. This new church is not subject to any Jewish rituals (like water baptism) according to the revelation of the mystery to Paul and further promulgated at the Jerusalem council recorded in Acts 15.

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John Nelson Darby, sometimes called the father of dispensationalism, began the church at Pentecost, but his dispensational scheme is not like Scofield's and later Acts 2 dispensationalists. Nor is it like that of mid-Acts dispensationalists. The church does not begin with a new dispensation for Darby as the administrations upon Earth are not relevant for the heavenly church body. One can study R.A. Huebner, (who sees the Church's advent at Acts 2), to get a better understanding of Darby's scheme of dispensations which is altogether a horse of another color

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J.C. O'Hair followed more closely to the Early American Dispensationalists and abandoned denominational loyalties. Rejecting gifts for the church age led to a rejection of water baptism and the Acts 2 position. He then began to explore Acts 28 as an alternative but eventually rejected that as well. It was at this time that H.A. Ironside wrote "Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth." After that O'Hair settled upon the Mid-Acts position.[27] The progression of O'Hair's understanding was an inversion of Bullinger's in that whereas Bullinger began early on leaning toward a mid-Acts view and later transitioned to an Acts 28 position, O'Hair began early on in Acts 28 eventually shifting to a mid-Acts position.

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Post-Acts Dispensationalism holds that only the mystery of Ephesians and Colossians is the grace dispensation, which effectively dispensed with "the law of commandments...the ordinances that were against us"(Eph. 2:15; Col. 2:14), in order to bring those saved into the body during Paul's Later Acts ministry, with those like the Ephesians and Colossians, into one fellowship, "the one new man...the fellowship of the mystery."(Eph.2:16;3:9) In this new unified body, all the practices ordained for the Acts church, which was decidedly Jewish/Covenantal, were abolished with the "revelation of the mystery" (Romans 16:25) of Ephesians and Colossians.[28] It is this central belief of a subtle form of Acts 28 doctrine that qualifies Post Acts Dispensationalism as a doctrine to be added into the category of Ultradispensationalism.

Hyperdispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



HOW TO DARE TO CUT UP REDEMPTIVE HISTORY AND CALL IT 2 TIMOTHY 2:15

The Gospel we preach today is the Gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:1-6).
i don't know what gospel you preach....well, i do actually.
it's not Biblical.

2 Timothy 2:15
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
 

JaumeJ

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Some folks would rather use anyone but the Word for the source of their truth. No man declares what is, only Yahweh does this.

It is annoying when people drag in their favorite cultist, I mean favorite author, in order to support some unknown-to-the-written-Word argument but they do it all of the time.

Read the Word; worship Yeshua; Believe Him. Faith is counted as works.
 

zone

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Some folks would rather use anyone but the Word for the source of their truth. No man declares what is, only Yahweh does this.

It is annoying when people drag in their favorite cultist, I mean favorite author, in order to support some unknown-to-the-written-Word argument but they do it all of the time.

Read the Word; worship Yeshua; Believe Him. Faith is counted as works.
you clicked like to this poster's theology (Theology : from Greek Θεός meaning "god" and λογία, -logy, meaning "study of")...POST 103

what do you say to it here, simplified?

The GOSPEL today will not be in effect in the time of Jacob's trouble.

The Gospel today is salvation by grace through faith only. No works.

The Gospel in the time of Jacob's trouble is faith and works.

The Gospel preached in Matthew, Mark, and Luke by Jesus and His apostles is not the Gospel we preach today. The Gospel they preached was the Gospel of the Kingdom.

The Gospel we preach today is the Gospel of the death, burial, and resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:1-6).
 

zone

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The Gospel in the time of Jacob's trouble is faith and works.
please define what you mean by faith & works.
back up from the Word, where people are saved by your faith & works program - is that a return to Mosaic Law after you and the mystery church are raptured?

document please.

i'll remind you.
 

ChosenbyHim

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that's long over.


Chapter and verse??



No Zone. I do not promote Hyperdispensationalism. I promote Dispensationalism and right division of the Scriptures.


i know it's a total waste of time asking you to back that up.

Romans 3:20a
Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law


14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. - James 2:14-26 (KJV)


So Zone, as we can see from James 2:14-26, no tribulation saint will be justified by faith only. But by faith AND​ works
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James is pointed doctrinally to Jews in the time of Jacob's trouble.


1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. - James 1:1 (KJV)


James addresses his very epistle to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. Again, it is clear that doctrinally, the episle of James is pointed at Jews in the time of Jacob's trouble.



Hyperdispensationalism
Hyperdispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ultradispensationalism is a minority Christian doctrine regarding the relationship between God, the Christian church and human beings. As the name implies, it is an extreme form of dispensationalism.
The clearest scholarly references to Ultradispensationalism (sometimes known as "Extreme Ultradispensationalism" or "Bullingerism") are made by Charles C. Ryrie [9] and Charles F. Baker.[10] Ultradispensationalism is a niche doctrine of Christian belief that believes that the Christian Church began with Paul's statement made to the Jewish leaders at Rome near the end of the Book of Acts with Acts 28:28 stating: "Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it" being the foundational Scripture of belief of the doctrine of Ultradispensationalism.[11]

Again, I DO NOT promote Hyper Dispensationalism.


[video=youtube;vmWAm8HlzVo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmWAm8HlzVo[/video]

Uploaded on Apr 22, 2009
This video is dealing with 'hyperdispensationalism' the view that Paul was the only one preaching the gospel of grace in the NT.
The Gospel of grace was taught by Peter and all of the other Aposltes as well as Paul. To Paul was given the full understanding of the Gospel and the uniting of Jew and Gentile into one body, the bride of Christ (Eph.5)





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Mid-Acts dispensationalism holds that most of the early Christian Church abandoned basic truths starting near the end of the Apostle Paul’s ministry.[12] The truths are (in order of loss):[13]

The Distinctive Message and Ministry of the Apostle Paul
The Pre-Tribulational Rapture of the Church, the Body of Christ
The Difference between Israel and the Church, the Body of Christ
Justification by Faith Alone, in Christ Alone.


The truths, advocates say, were gradually recovered in reverse order starting during the Protestant Reformation;[14] for example, Martin Luther is credited with recovery of "justification by faith" and John Nelson Darby with "Church Truth."

...

Mid-Acts dispensationalists are not monolithic nor homogenous. There are two main positions with which there exists minor variations. The two main positions are Acts 9 and Acts 13. The difference is minor being only technical. They all see the dispensation of Grace and the church, the body of Christ as beginning with the apostle Paul. Among dispensationalists, the differences separating the Mid-Acts position from the Acts 28 position are just as great as those separating the Acts 2 position from the more consistent Mid-Acts dispensational view.

...

Mid-Acts dispensationalists take all of Paul's epistles (Romans through Philemon) to be directly written to the church (thus often accepting the practice of the Lord's Supper as for this dispensation of Grace) while the Acts 28 position takes only Paul's prison epistles (those written while in prison) to be directly applicable to the church today (denying the Lord's Supper for today).

...

There is only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5) made without hands where the believer is baptized into Christ by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13) which is held in contradistinction to Christ baptizing believing Israel in Acts 2 with the Holy Spirit. This pouring out baptism of the Holy Spirit is in fulfillment of the Old Testament promise of the new covenant to Israel (Acts 2:16-21, Joel 2:28-32). Thus it has nothing to do with the newly revealed Mystery to and through the apostle Paul who is not sent out until much later with the new ministry as the apostle of the Gentiles to establish a new church which is composed of both Jews and Gentiles, and not just Israelites (which includes proselytes to Judaism) as in Acts 2. This new church is not subject to any Jewish rituals (like water baptism) according to the revelation of the mystery to Paul and further promulgated at the Jerusalem council recorded in Acts 15.

...

John Nelson Darby, sometimes called the father of dispensationalism, began the church at Pentecost, but his dispensational scheme is not like Scofield's and later Acts 2 dispensationalists. Nor is it like that of mid-Acts dispensationalists. The church does not begin with a new dispensation for Darby as the administrations upon Earth are not relevant for the heavenly church body. One can study R.A. Huebner, (who sees the Church's advent at Acts 2), to get a better understanding of Darby's scheme of dispensations which is altogether a horse of another color

...

J.C. O'Hair followed more closely to the Early American Dispensationalists and abandoned denominational loyalties. Rejecting gifts for the church age led to a rejection of water baptism and the Acts 2 position. He then began to explore Acts 28 as an alternative but eventually rejected that as well. It was at this time that H.A. Ironside wrote "Wrongly Dividing the Word of Truth." After that O'Hair settled upon the Mid-Acts position.[27] The progression of O'Hair's understanding was an inversion of Bullinger's in that whereas Bullinger began early on leaning toward a mid-Acts view and later transitioned to an Acts 28 position, O'Hair began early on in Acts 28 eventually shifting to a mid-Acts position.

...

Post-Acts Dispensationalism holds that only the mystery of Ephesians and Colossians is the grace dispensation, which effectively dispensed with "the law of commandments...the ordinances that were against us"(Eph. 2:15; Col. 2:14), in order to bring those saved into the body during Paul's Later Acts ministry, with those like the Ephesians and Colossians, into one fellowship, "the one new man...the fellowship of the mystery."(Eph.2:16;3:9) In this new unified body, all the practices ordained for the Acts church, which was decidedly Jewish/Covenantal, were abolished with the "revelation of the mystery" (Romans 16:25) of Ephesians and Colossians.[28] It is this central belief of a subtle form of Acts 28 doctrine that qualifies Post Acts Dispensationalism as a doctrine to be added into the category of Ultradispensationalism.

Hyperdispensationalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Once again Zone, I do not promote hyper dispensational theology.

I promote Dispensational theology that is according to the Scriptures.






HOW TO DARE TO CUT UP REDEMPTIVE HISTORY AND CALL IT 2 TIMOTHY 2:15

And how dare you refuse to obey the command given in 2 Timothy 2:15 ma'am. You should be ashamed of yourself.


i don't know what gospel you preach....well, i do actually.
it's not Biblical.

I preach the Gospel of Grace, which is the Gospel the apostle Paul preached (1 Corinthians 15:1-6).



2 Timothy 2:15
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

The Bible does not say that.


Here is what the true Bible says:



15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
 

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i know it's a total waste of time asking you to back that up.


The spirit behind anti-dispensationalism

[video=youtube;IZam8AELqVM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZam8AELqVM[/video]

Published on Mar 22, 2013
This is a video explaining that there is a anti-semitic, Satanic spirit that underlies the attack on dispensational theology. It is an attempt to ignore the reality that God is not done with Israel and unbelieving Jews are still beloved by God.
Today, an unbelieving Jews must receive the Gospel of grace to be saved.
He then becomes a Christian if he believes.
When the Church is removed, the dispensation returns to a Jewish one, and God will complete the unconditional promises made to Abraham and David.
The Millennium will be a Jewish Kingdom, led by a Jewish King, with Headquarters in the Jewish State, with a Temple that all Gentiles will be forced to come to and worship under the threat of severe discipline.
These are dispensational truths that are denied by those who simply cannot stand that the Jew is a special People, because God chose them.

 

ChosenbyHim

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Only Dispensationalism teaches God's Plan for mankind

[video=youtube;ERc_K-DnphQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERc_K-DnphQ[/video]

Published on Apr 14, 2013
This is a video explaining how only dispensationalist theology understands God's Plan for mankind.
It is the dispensationalists, who, by 'rightly dividing' understand the different aspects of God's plan and how the Gentile, Jew and Church fit into that Plan.
Any other teaching that rejects the essential aspect of Dispensatonalism,( that the Church and Israel are distinct entities with different roles in God's Plan) has 'wrongly divided' the word of God.
 
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ChosenbyHim,

Who is the speaker in the video?
 

ChosenbyHim

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please define what you mean by faith & works.
back up from the Word, where people are saved by your faith & works program - is that a return to Mosaic Law after you and the mystery church are raptured?

document please.

i'll remind you.


9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. - Revelation 14:9-12 (KJV)



17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. - Revelation 12:17 (KJV)



8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. - Matthew 24:8-13 (KJV)



6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. - Hebrews 3:6 (KJV)




4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. - Hebrews 6:4-6 (KJV)






14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
- James 2:14-26 (KJV)


 

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ChosenbyHim,

Who is the speaker in the video?
Hi Linda,

the gentleman speaking in the video is Edward Pfenninger. A good brother in the Lord, standing for the faith that was once delivered to the saints.
 

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Excerpt of One Book...Rightly Divided
Expanded Edition

By Dr. Douglas D. Stauffer


Introduction (pages xiii-xiv)


Since becoming a Christian in 1980, I have heard many negative statements regarding the word of God. These include allegations that the Bible contains contradictions; suggestions that you can make the Bible say whatever you want it to say; and assertions that we should not take the Bible so literally. As a seasoned preacher, I have thankfully come to realize that these statements are not insurmountable. God clearly states that He wants us to know what is right. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

Although the statements in the first paragraph seem to contain some validity, none can be accepted without further consideration. The truth is that the Bible contains no contradictions; therefore, every alleged contradiction can be explained. Likewise, a person attempting to make the Bible say whatever he wants it to say can do so only by disregarding proper scriptural context. Finally, the Bible should be taken literally whenever God expresses a truth that He wishes us to apply literally.

My purpose in writing One Book Rightly Divided is to give the student a better understanding of how to properly interpret God’s word. The book of Nehemiah clearly expresses my desire, "So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading" (Nehemiah 8:8). Every teacher and preacher should hunger and thirst for a greater comprehension of "what saith the scripture," thus enabling him to correctly teach others (II Timothy 2:2).

Proper interpretation is the key that unlocks the scriptures. Consequently, the student must allow the Bible to interpret itself naturally without forcing his own private rendering into the text. "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation" (II Peter 1:20). To avoid abusing a passage, one must discover and employ the Bible’s own built-in hermeneutical formula as revealed in Paul’s letter to Timothy.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth (II Timothy 2:15).

The study of right division focuses on determining the correct doctrinal application of any particular passage. Having determined this application, the supposed contradictions lose their capacity to confuse. Without the discipline of right division, it is impossible to obey the scriptural injunction to ". . . be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear" (I Peter 3:15). You cannot be prepared to give an answer if you do not know how to handle the "contradictory" statements found in the Bible.

Preachers appear to be weary of having to evade the hard questions because they do not have the answers. For this reason, many have prodded, prayed, and pushed this book into existence. Three distinct groups spurred the writing of this treatise. First, the pastors desired a tool to enable them to teach the Bible dispensationally to their congregations. Secondly, the faculty members of Bible colleges and seminaries grew tired of skipping or spiritualizing the difficult passages, as do their commentaries. Thirdly, church members wanted a Bible study tool for their personal use. Thus in December, 1996, at the prompting of Dr. Bill Grady, I began collating the information to publish One Book Rightly Divided.

Due to the aforementioned controversy surrounding God’s word, some people may be tempted to judge this book without reading it. Such a disposition reflects a failure to heed the scriptural admonition found in Proverbs 18:13, "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him." Before you pass judgment on this book, open to page one and begin reading.

Because of the advanced material contained in the latter half of this book, the individual chapters were designed to be studied in sequential order. Without the foundational principles supplied in the earlier chapters, the student will have difficulty grasping the more advanced concepts.

This book is not recommended for the spiritually weak in heart. Although the study of right division will open the word of God to you, unexpected consequences will also be encountered. For every question that is answered by applying these principles, other questions are certain to arise. Thus, the student will be compelled to continually search the scriptures for further answers (Acts 17:11). The same verse that commands us to study and to rightly divide also calls us workmen.

It is my sincere prayer that One Book Rightly Divided will bring glory to the Lord Jesus Christ by "endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" (Ephesians 4:3). I have found that if the brethren do not "rightly divide" the book, the book will divide the brethren. May the Lord richly bless you as you seek to serve Him.

- Douglas D. Stauffer


December 10, 1999






Synopsis
(page xii)


One Book Rightly Divided tackles one of the most pressing theological debates of our time—how to properly interpret the scriptures. Unlike most hermeneutical works, this book empowers the student by presenting the Bible’s own internal method of self-interpretation.

The teaching of right division is not a new concept designed by the author, but rather the scriptural mandate of God.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (II Timothy 2:15)

By allowing the Bible to interpret itself, alleged contradictions and cultic heresies lose their power to confuse. Likewise, difficult passages (the ones evaded in the commentaries) are suddenly reconcilable by rightly dividing the word of truth.

Unique in its versatility, One Book Rightly Divided serves as a Christian’s study guide, a Bible college textbook, or a pastor’s homiletical aid. The reader will be helped by the many illuminating charts and the absence of technical language.

This volume will enhance the Christian’s personal walk with God by providing him with the biblical key to Bible study.



"Any person is a dispensationalist who trusts the blood of Christ rather than bringing an animal sacrifice, and any person is a dispensationalist who observes the first day of the week rather than the seventh."

Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas: Dallas Seminary Press, 1936), p. 9.
 
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Hi Linda,

the gentleman speaking in the video is Edward Pfenninger. A good brother in the Lord, standing for the faith that was once delivered to the saints.
Edward's Amazon review page is here -> Amazon.com: Profile For Edwardpf: Reviews

Edward's writing about Gail Riplinger bears a striking resemblance to the writing style of... Gail Riplinger.
:rolleyes:
 

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read the entire Book of Daniel.
without your commentary footnotes.
Daniel 12 specifically.

read Matthew Mark Luke & John, then Revelation.

No Zone. I do not promote Hyperdispensationalism. I promote Dispensationalism and right division of the Scriptures.
i can prove you do. have proved it.
you prove it yourself.

wrong division. chopping up.
false doctrine.

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. - James 2:14-26 (KJV)
and THAT ^^^ doesn't apply to YOU?

So Zone, as we can see from James 2:14-26, no tribulation saint will be justified by faith only. But by faith AND​ works.

James is pointed doctrinally to Jews in the time of Jacob's trouble.
a-a-a-a-a-and...there's your uber-dispensationalism.



so close....but you just can't see it.

1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. - James 1:1 (KJV)

James addresses his very epistle to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad. Again, it is clear that doctrinally, the episle of James is pointed at Jews in the time of Jacob's trouble.
like.......2000+ years in his future?

Again, I DO NOT promote Hyper Dispensationalism.
oh you own it.

Uploaded on Apr 22, 2009
This video is dealing with 'hyperdispensationalism' the view that Paul was the only one preaching the gospel of grace in the NT.

The Gospel of grace was taught by Peter and all of the other Aposltes as well as Paul. To Paul was given the full understanding of the Gospel and the uniting of Jew and Gentile into one body, the bride of Christ (Eph.5)


....but....NOT JAMES?

Once again Zone, I do not promote hyper dispensational theology.

I promote Dispensational theology that is according to <SNIP> "MY ROLL-MY-OWN-BLEND.
And how dare you refuse to obey the command given in 2 Timothy 2:15 ma'am. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Paul never told Timothy to SAVAGE God`s single redemptive plan dating back to ADAM.

so how dare YOU.
 

zone

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Excerpt of One Book...Rightly Divided
Expanded Edition

By Dr. Douglas D. Stauffer



(6) According to hyper-dispensationalism there are different ways of salvation in the Old Testament and during the Tribulation. Peter Ruckman, for example, teaches that men were saved by faith plus works in the Old Testament and that they will be saved by faith plus works in the Tribulation and by works alone in the Millennium.


In Millions Disappear: Fact or Fiction? Ruckman says: “If the Lord comes and you remain behind, then start working like a madman to get to heaven, because you’re going to have to. ... You must keep the Ten Commandments (all of them, Ecclesiastes 12:13), keep the Golden Rule (1 John 3:10), give your money to the poor, get baptized, take up your cross, hold out to the end of the Tribulation, wait for Jesus Christ to show up at the Battle of Armageddon, and be prepared to die for what you believe. In the Tribulation you cannot be saved by grace alone, like you could before the Rapture.”


In fact, Romans 4:1-8 plainly states that Abraham before the law and David under the law were saved by faith without works. This is the only plan of salvation God ever has had and ever will have--salvation by grace alone through faith alone based upon the shed blood of Jesus Christ alone. The Old Testament saints did not know what the New Testament saint knows, but Romans 4 makes it plain that they were saved by faith without works. Like Abraham, they believed God and it was counted unto them for righteousness.....


Beware of Hyper Dispensationalism
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Beware of Hyper Dispensationalism | Doctrine, Warning




(i dont endorse everything by this author by any means...but he sure got this right....how did it happen that the simplicity of the gospel has been so trashed)​