Pre Trib Rapture Moment 11: What will trigger the rapture?
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I think its a way to identify all the rolls he plays. Or things he uses to deceive. Christ gave six or seven signs that consummate the end of the age and His return.
The first rider of the seals, is a rider on a white horse In Revelation 6:1-2 .
And the first warning Christ gave in Mark 13 Luke 21 and Matthew 24 is this :
Mark 13:
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many....
Matthew 24:
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Luke 21:
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
The first rider of the seals, is a rider on a white horse In Revelation 6:1-2 .
And the first warning Christ gave in Mark 13 Luke 21 and Matthew 24 is this :
Mark 13:
4 Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many....
Matthew 24:
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Luke 21:
7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
When Jesus said that He will shorten the days does not mean to five months but as we can see now time is flying fast years are going by quickly that is what it means not to five months . But to the hasting of time
Noah,was given warning to escape the flood not raptured off the land.Lot was warned and fled before the destruction.Rapture???The Lord will protect his faithful this I believe,but Rapture?
King James Version (KJV)
46 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
Of course I believe it was Moses and Elijah ! It is written . You just read it. ( God is not the God of the dead, but the living. MARK 12:27; LUKE 20:38; MATTHEW 22:32 kjv)
Mark 9:
2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Matthew 17:
Matthew 17
King James Version (KJV)
17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
Mark 9:
2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.
Matthew 17:
Matthew 17
King James Version (KJV)
17 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,
2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.
8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.
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Noah,was given warning to escape the flood not raptured off the land.Lot was warned and fled before the destruction.Rapture???The Lord will protect his faithful this I believe,but Rapture?
The flood of the end times is the massive lies that are going to flow from Satan's mouth. ( Revelation 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Revelation 9 :
18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.
19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.)
But who were they giving and taking in marriage to in Genesis 6: ?
Revelation 12:
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
I believe going off of what they will be doing. stopping the rain, and water to blood. The only other ones to do what was Moses and Elijah. They even appeared with Christ before the apostles.
Luke 9 :
28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luke 9 :
28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
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Do you know what is a vision and a dream hmmm when someone bring a message for you in a dream looking like one of you family members is that really the person in the dream ? just a thought
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do Moses and Elijah have eternal life now ? And Where are they currently ?
2 Kings 2:11-12
King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Elijah is not reported to have died. He is in heaven.
Moses is reported to have died; But, there was a strange exchange with Satan and Micheal about Moses's Body :
Jude 1:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
If Moses did die; ( I think ) ; then he would be in heaven also.
2 Corinthians 5:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
But we see the two witnesses performing the same things Moses and Elijah have done in the past.
They should be in heaven now with God. And I'm sure they are in good hands. God took them . He is using them, they must be doing something right.
2 Kings 2:11-12
King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Elijah is not reported to have died. He is in heaven.
Moses is reported to have died; But, there was a strange exchange with Satan and Micheal about Moses's Body :
Jude 1:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
If Moses did die; ( I think ) ; then he would be in heaven also.
2 Corinthians 5:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
But we see the two witnesses performing the same things Moses and Elijah have done in the past.
2 Kings 2:11-12
King James Version (KJV)
11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Elijah is not reported to have died. He is in heaven.
Moses is reported to have died; But, there was a strange exchange with Satan and Micheal about Moses's Body :
Jude 1:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
If Moses did die; ( I think ) ; then he would be in heaven also.
2 Corinthians 5:8
King James Version (KJV)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
But we see the two witnesses performing the same things Moses and Elijah have done in the past.
Is David in heaven ?
I'm not going to second guess what is written . The Apostles of Christ say it was Moses and Elijah, I'm going with their report. It was Moses and Elijah .
How do you think Moses wrote the book of genesis if he was not there ? The apostles were witnesses hmm also they never saw Moses nor Elijah in person to know that hmmm
I will ask you all again, how can it be Moses, he was not allowed into the promised Land for his disobedience. Jerusalem is in the promised land, so how could it be Moses?
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How do you think Moses wrote the book of genesis if he was not there ?
There was actually talk in the Bible its self of a book by Moses . Like God gave Moses the ten commandments and was with Him through his life There were physical copies he has to carry with him . If I could remember the verses and chapters. I would post it; In the Bible there is mention of a physical book. I believe Moses did write it, God being the author thereof.
what i am saying is this Moses was shewed the stories from creation to be able to write them just as John was shewed also that is the point i am getting at . God is able to shew the past to His people
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You do believe in life after death ? Christ was are example for this. Weather through death, or one simply taken like Elijah or Enoch. They would be transformed into a different body as Paul taught about ( I Corinthians 15 ). Those bodies don't die. And Christ was there, the Holy Spirit was present. Christ simply could have introduced them, or through the Holy Spirit, their eyes where opened to the fact of who is there.
They say explicitly Moses and Elijah. How on earth your allowing yourself, to convince yourself otherwise despite it clearly stating so, is a big question mark for me.
They say explicitly Moses and Elijah. How on earth your allowing yourself, to convince yourself otherwise despite it clearly stating so, is a big question mark for me.
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Question,Malachi,chapter 4 verse 5 Behold,I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.Can you explain this better Isdaniel?sorry to go off topic.
Matthew 17
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.